Have all y'all missed these new Mossbergs?

jhrosier · Post by **jhrosier** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 5:54 pm

Well, at least they didn't mess up a good rifle.

Jack

pricedo · Post by **pricedo** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 5:56 pm

jhrosier wrote:Well, at least they didn't mess up a good rifle.

Jack

I wouldn't lean that rifle against my outhouse.

It would be better inside out of sight with a roll of toilette paper over the muzzle.

At least then it would be serving a useful purpose.

Post by **Hobie** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 6:36 pm

jhrosier wrote:Well, at least they didn't mess up a good rifle.

Jack

win38-55 · Post by **win38-55** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:27 pm

Is this some type of sick April Fools joke?

Streetstar · Post by **Streetstar** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:00 pm

win38-55 wrote:Is this some type of sick April Fools joke?

Thats what i thought at first too until i saw it was on a Mossberg website

adirondakjack · Post by **adirondakjack** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:08 pm

OK so ya got a pig on yer hands that's costing ya money and a real loser. It has to be LIPSTICK TIME.....

Really, this abomination is like a Yugo with 20" wheels and ground effects.....

Who runs these companies and what the heck are they smoking before staff meetings?

Post by **Chuck 100 yd** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:15 pm

That is just WRONG !!

shooter · Post by **shooter** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:24 pm

86er wrote:While this gun is no for me because it doesn't suit my tastes or uses I think Mossberg should be commended for thinking outside the box and bringing a "retro" platform into the modern position to reach the new generation.

I partially agree. Thinking outside the box is great. Did they have to make it so ugly though? I think it might improve the appearance a tad bit if it had a solid black butt stock instead of the AR type adjustable butt stock. I still wouldn't really like it, but it would be a little more tolerable, to me at least.

adirondakjack · Post by **adirondakjack** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:40 pm

shooter wrote:
86er wrote:While this gun is no for me because it doesn't suit my tastes or uses I think Mossberg should be commended for thinking outside the box and bringing a "retro" platform into the modern position to reach the new generation.
I partially agree. Thinking outside the box is great. Did they have to make it so ugly though? I think it might improve the appearance a tad bit if it had a solid black butt stock instead of the AR type adjustable butt stock. I still wouldn't really like it, but it would be a little more tolerable, to me at least.

Agreed. While not my cup of tea exactly, the recent Marlin with the moderate big loop and light rail is conservative and stylish by comparison.

These folks at Mossburg seem to have no regard for the limits of cross species breeding. It's like a cross between a hamster and a lobster....

crystal river charli · Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:47 pm

First thing that came to mind was Kid Rocks,
"I'm A Cowboy Baby"

Charlie

Buck Elliott · Post by **Buck Elliott** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:49 pm

"Outside the box" my maiden Aunt Maude...! The folks at Mossberg are thinking Outside their Brains.. The customers who might buy it are NOT the kind I want for neighbors.. Drive-by, gang-banger, bad-ankle Cowboy-wannabes would not be welcome in the places I frequent...

adirondakjack · Post by **adirondakjack** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:04 pm

So all they need now is a ghetto fabulous, bootylicious girl in a camo g-string bikini and one of Richard Petty's hats to promote it at SHOT, and they could at least sell lots of posters, if not guns.....

olyinaz · Post by **olyinaz** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:07 pm

Let's face it, they have learned from past practice that if you slap black plastic and rails on a gun it sells like hot cakes. Ruger and Taurus have learned the same thing. They're doing what companies that stay in business do - SELL PRODUCT.

I just wish they'd offer one in .45-70 for us traditional folks.

Oly

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:28 pm

Mossberg has generated FOUR PAGES and two threads with comments about their new rifle. Ok, so most of the comments are negative... but still, what is they say about publicity... if they ain't talkin' about you, you're dead... or something like that!

Streetstar · Post by **Streetstar** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:54 pm

adirondakjack wrote:So all they need now is a ghetto fabulous, bootylicious girl in a camo g-string bikini and one of Richard Petty's hats to promote it at SHOT, and they could at least sell lots of posters, if not guns.....

YES !!! -- and also what Griff said about there being no such thing as bad publicity

and another YES YES YES for the BOOTYLICIOUS ! (Old Savage probably knows her already though,)

1894cfan · Post by **1894cfan** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:02 pm

I wonder if that forearm would fit on a post '64 94.

Buck Elliott · Post by **Buck Elliott** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 12:01 am

I reckon the next best thing to do would be to mis-spell their name.. "Mausburgh," or something...

claybob86 · Post by **claybob86** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 1:38 am

Well, it does seem to come up a bit short in the grace, beauty and charm departments... Might be a good truck gun though!

model55 · Post by **model55** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 2:37 am

Had hopes that they had back tracked to the levers they used to make in the 70'&80's only to see that abortion.Puking on the computer is not a good thing.

Alan Wood · Post by **Alan Wood** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:09 am

Buck Elliott wrote:"Outside the box" my maiden Aunt Maude...! The folks at Mossberg are thinking Outside their Brains.. The customers who might buy it are NOT the kind I want for neighbors.. Drive-by, gang-banger, bad-ankle Cowboy-wannabes would not be welcome in the places I frequent...

Bother must edit because my internet conenction went down. Any way Buck I understand were you are coming from but think that in addition to the kooks and tacticools there will be a third crowd attracted to this weapon. Those who see it as a means of home defense.

adirondakjack · Post by **adirondakjack** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 5:14 am

Alan Wood wrote:
Buck Elliott wrote:"Outside the box" my maiden Aunt Maude...! The folks at Mossberg are thinking Outside their Brains.. The customers who might buy it are NOT the kind I want for neighbors.. Drive-by, gang-banger, bad-ankle Cowboy-wannabes would not be welcome in the places I frequent...
Bother must edit because my internet conenction went down. Any way Buck I understand were you are coming from but think that in addition to the kooks and tacticools there will be a third crowd attracted to this weapon. Those who see it as a means of home defense.

Because everybody knows you must have a craptastic plastic stock and flash hider for HD.

I've made and sold items made of plastic and of wood. I'm here to tell you WOOD is a pain where pill won't reach to machine, finish and protect in a shop environment, where tupperware gets as much care as well, tupperware. THAT is the real logic behind this lego abomination from the maker's standpoint

chadbr · Post by **chadbr** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:22 am

jdad wrote:Hornady is producing 30-30 "Zombie" ammo that is a perfect match to the Mossberg "Zombie" levergun.

http://www.hornady.com/store/30-30-Win-160-gr-Z-MAX/

hah... I will have to get a box of those for kicks and giggles.

Performance looks pretty good also...

Chad

bdhold · Post by **bdhold** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:46 am

Maybe it's a Mad Look at Leverguns! by Don Martin?

Buck Elliott · Post by **Buck Elliott** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:07 am

I've seen injection-molded plastic stocks for leverguns, that follow the traditional lines and feel.. Don't tell me Mausburgh couldn't have used something like that on their new toy.. the "tactical" stock has too many corners and angles and projections on it to be really useful in a HD situation. Looks to me like it could get hung up on household obstacles too easily.

Ergonomics must be a thing of the past With some manufacturers... Along with common sense.

RustyJr · Post by **RustyJr** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:47 am

I say put a regular style synthetic stock on it, put a peep sight on the top and only put ONE, SMALL rail towards the front to attach a light. Add in a lever butt cuff from levergun leverworks and call it good. Load it with some of th 125 grain Federal Powershoks and we would have a real nice combination. Of course this is provided that it reliable. I think I would be more willing to try it with an old Marlin or Winchester.

RustyJr

AJMD429 · Post by **AJMD429** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 6:31 pm

olyinaz wrote:I just wish they'd offer one in .45-70 for us traditional folks.

Ray Newman · Post by **Ray Newman** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:43 am

Just watch, Mossberg will make a few; sell a few. No one will want them. CDNN will buy the remaining stock and sell them off at a deep discount.

Then some gun writer will do an article, then everyone will want one, the prices will climb….

Better buy one as a collector's item/investment.

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:08 am

I gotta say... in one not-so-smooth move Mausburg did away with the logic of... "a levergun doesn't LOOK like an EBR!!!

Buck Elliott · Post by **Buck Elliott** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:07 am

You got that right, Griff..!

I have to wonder what the recoil force vectors are like, with that disjointed, dog-leg stock..? In the AR configuration, the stock is in a straight line with the bore, but this Mausburgh is a complete perversion of design... I hope all 17 buyers are ridiculously-happy with the new design, but somehow, I doubt it...

Streetstar · Post by **Streetstar** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:43 am

Buck Elliott wrote:You got that right, Griff..!

... I hope all 17 buyers are ridiculously-happy with the new design, but somehow, I doubt it...

Maybe ignorance will be bliss? ??

If CDNN does buy all these in a year or two, they might price them low enough so a guy or gal can put a Ramline stock on it to replace the AR collapsible stock

The synthetic timber carbine was ugly too, now some people view them as "collector's items"

Ji in Hawaii · Post by **Ji in Hawaii** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 3:21 am

iceman wrote:If beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I would have to be blind to like it. their sales will tell what the market place thinks of it though.

I thought beauty was in the eye of the beer-holder.

Take more beers than I could handle to make that thing look attractive.

gamekeeper · Post by **gamekeeper** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:28 am

Friends Call Me Ji wrote:
iceman wrote:If beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I would have to be blind to like it. their sales will tell what the market place thinks of it though.
I thought beauty was in the eye of the beer-holder. Take more beers than I could handle to make that thing look attractive.

bdhold · Post by **bdhold** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:31 am

The parallel is uncanny.
Check the thread below.
These rifles were invented for hunting bigfoot.

jkbrea · Post by **jkbrea** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:42 pm

I posted this as a joke a while back.....who'd have thought?

claybob86 · Post by **claybob86** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:55 pm

jkbrea wrote:I posted this as a joke a while back.....who'd have thought?

I like yours better!

bdhold · Post by **bdhold** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:30 pm

I think they stole your intellectual property. Call the attorneys. We'll get these things stopped one way or another.

jkbrea · Post by **jkbrea** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:55 pm

jkbrea wrote:I posted this as a joke a while back.....who'd have thought?

I didn't create it, just found it and posted it. I'm not that "creative".

pricedo · Post by **pricedo** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:25 am

jkbrea wrote:I posted this as a joke a while back.....who'd have thought?

(purportedly real)

(admitted fake)

Something is really fishy about the similarity of the admitted fake and purportedly real gun.

I have a feeling they are BOTH Photoshop creations.

Grizzly Adams · Post by **Grizzly Adams** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:22 pm

Paradigm Shift is hard on some folks!

Mossberg is going to sell a pile of these things - just not to the folks on this forum.

pricedo · Post by **pricedo** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:27 pm

Grizzly Adams wrote:Paradigm Shift is hard on some folks! Mossberg is going to sell a pile of these things - just not to the folks on this forum.

I certainly hope so.
I wish Mossberg well.......they've been around for years.
I'm sure us older levergunners have all packed Mossys at the range & in the field.

model55 · Post by **model55** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:18 pm

Maybe you could use it as a crutch and attach things to it like a coffee cup holder or something............

Hagler · Post by **Hagler** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:53 am

...about 1/2-way down the page:

http://www.gunblast.com/SHOT_2012_1.htm

"Linda Powell with Mossberg's new Model 464SPX lever-action rifle, available in 22 Long Rifle or 30 WCF (30-30)."

Shawn

spaceman spiff · Post by **spaceman spiff** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:39 pm

I'm not too offended by this. More power to them if they can sell them.

It's a PRO-GUN thing.

spaceman

FWiedner · Post by **FWiedner** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:27 pm

That thing looks about as natural as a broke leg.

Buck Elliott · Post by **Buck Elliott** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:17 pm

I predict an ensuing epidemic of "buyer's remorse..."

1894c · Post by **1894c** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:54 am

Hobie wrote:http://mossberg.com/products/default.as ... n=products

so wrong on so many levels... :(

marlinman93 · Post by **marlinman93** » Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:33 pm

Reminds me of someone taking a collectable 30's car and putting 2012 fenders and lights on it! What a fugly piece of crud. I don't wish Mossberg any bad luck, but I hope that gun dies a quick death before I have to see one in person!

rodeo kid · Post by **rodeo kid** » Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:53 pm

Dear Buck Elliott, I agree with you that this "Mussberg" is pretty stinky. But how come you "despise" sliced bread?

I love to make "Dagwood"(showing my age) sandwich's using rye bread and it is sliced but still good. I do like to go to the bakery and get an oval sourdough, break off a hunk and butter it, but I still love my sliced rye. White bread not so much. God Bless.

pricedo · Post by **pricedo** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 11:22 pm

I thought the ballistic abortion was a Photoshopped joke when I first saw it.
Now that I know it's real I'm not laughing........another belly flop for a struggling American gun company.
Mossy tried to appeal to the AR/Black rifle group and the old legacy guys and missed the target on both.
Whoever is in charge of marketing at Mossy should be looking at new career options.

JohndeFresno · Post by **JohndeFresno** » Sun Feb 26, 2012 3:45 am

Tycer wrote:Well, it now looks as good as it works. bwahahhahahaha.