Need a low-cost, super effient, wood burning heater?
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Need a low-cost, super effient, wood burning heater?
Check this out: http://www.richsoil.com/rocket-stove-mass-heater.jsp
The rocket stove - high-tec design/low-tech build.
Cool huh?
Here's one installed with a bench over the "mass" that gets warm and stays warm....
This would be absolutely perfect for a hunting cabin - much much much more efficient than a fireplace - you can use dead fall sticks (yes, sticks) for fuel and never have to split firewood. Further, it gives you a nice hot stove top to cook on (the top of the combustion chamber). Put the firepit outside or run an intake vent into the fire pit and you really make it efficient as a heater as no air is drawn out of the cabin.
Very cool IMHO.
The rocket stove - high-tec design/low-tech build.
Cool huh?
Here's one installed with a bench over the "mass" that gets warm and stays warm....
This would be absolutely perfect for a hunting cabin - much much much more efficient than a fireplace - you can use dead fall sticks (yes, sticks) for fuel and never have to split firewood. Further, it gives you a nice hot stove top to cook on (the top of the combustion chamber). Put the firepit outside or run an intake vent into the fire pit and you really make it efficient as a heater as no air is drawn out of the cabin.
Very cool IMHO.
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Re: Need a low-cost, super effient, wood burning heater?
I WANT ONE!
Cool factor-------Wow!
Heck, I might even turn off the Eden Pure
Cool factor-------Wow!
Heck, I might even turn off the Eden Pure
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Re: Need a low-cost, super effient, wood burning heater?
OSOK - that Richsoil website is full of good information. Thank you for posting it.
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Re: Need a low-cost, super effient, wood burning heater?
I looked at some of the info, but does this thing require electricity to run like a pellot stove?
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Re: Need a low-cost, super effient, wood burning heater?
You are most welcome. And BenT, no - the heat of the fire actually pulls the fire to the combustion chamber - the hot air rising does this. I am sure that you need to take care in lighting it - to get the air pulling through the stove... but for sure once it gets going it draws nicely and apparently, the exhaust is mostly steam and CO2 - not smoke.
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Re: Need a low-cost, super effient, wood burning heater?
No electricy , now thats cool . I'm interested how to get the draw started in the right direction.
Re: Need a low-cost, super effient, wood burning heater?
Thanks for the link. That stove appears to be a bigger version of a wood- gasifier stove you can build from a paint can and soup can. Have you seen those? Once you get things going there is very little to no smoke. Very interesting.
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Re: Need a low-cost, super effient, wood burning heater?
It would probably help if the input was at a bit of an angle... but once you get the heat going into the combustion chamber - it starts drawing on it's own.BenT wrote:No electricy , now thats cool . I'm interested how to get the draw started in the right direction.
And Kevin -if you go to that site that I posted, it has links to similar - "portable" rocket stoves.
I personally think it's cool from a sustainable fuel/minimalist or survival standpoint.
I am planning on putting one of these into a guest cottage that I plan to construct on our property once we get moved in... and if it works out, I'll probably make another one for when more family comes.
I just like the idea of being able to live off of the land in a comfortable manor and this stove could be a part of that type of situation.
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Re: Need a low-cost, super effient, wood burning heater?
Cool, might have to try making one too.
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Re: Need a low-cost, super effient, wood burning heater?
This might take you a good afternoon's workPitchy wrote:Cool, might have to try making one too.
I look forward to seeing the pics!!
Just think, a heater that runs on sticks - no wood splitting needed! (unless you run out of sticks )
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Re: Need a low-cost, super effient, wood burning heater?
Now that is interesting. I thought my Blaze King was easy on the woodpile, but that thing sounds positively unreal. I may have to build one of those things myself for the shop. Maybe I can enlist my favorite ex-son-in-law: he's a lot like Pitchy for making things, except he isn't as handy with a computer. But I can handle any of that part we might need...
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Re: Need a low-cost, super effient, wood burning heater?
I want to see that--if anyone can you can... :)Pitchy wrote:Cool, might have to try making one too. :)
Re: Need a low-cost, super effient, wood burning heater?
I don`t have the materials around right now to make one, i`ll keep my eye open, i don`t very often buy new steel.O.S.O.K. wrote:This might take you a good afternoon's workPitchy wrote:Cool, might have to try making one too.
I look forward to seeing the pics!!
Just think, a heater that runs on sticks - no wood splitting needed! (unless you run out of sticks )
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Re: Need a low-cost, super effient, wood burning heater?
It's a wood gassification stove. They do work, but like the "rocket stoves", they require constant attention to feed, and on start-up tend to puff back quite a bit. They work more or less like a car's catalytic converter, where very high temps in the "combustion chamber" burn the particulate contained in smoke.
I built several small models, and one larger unit I heated my shop with one winter. Frankly, more of a pain than it was worth because it wouldn't hold a fire long enough.
When it developed cracks, I replaced it with a masonary "mass storage" heater, a more conventional stove with a heat exchanger built into it, above the firebox, and plenty of mass to retain heat. My stove I now use weighs about 1000 lbs, and will hold the shop at livable temps all night. It burns "ordinary" size wood, and is very good at running a HOT fire.... My BIL has a bunch of ash growing on his place, so I bought some, mostly split, some smaller limbs, and this stove burns it ALL GONE with very little ash, and once hot, almost no visible smoke.
My current stove durng a test (before the firebox door hinges had been made/installed
The exposed firebrick in front kept leaking around the edges, as it doesn't expand as much as red brick when heated.
I slobbered a bunch of fireplace cement on it, but it didn't last.
recently I pulled those front firebricks and resealed them using high temp fireplace silicone (not shown) THAT worked because it stays flexible.
I built several small models, and one larger unit I heated my shop with one winter. Frankly, more of a pain than it was worth because it wouldn't hold a fire long enough.
When it developed cracks, I replaced it with a masonary "mass storage" heater, a more conventional stove with a heat exchanger built into it, above the firebox, and plenty of mass to retain heat. My stove I now use weighs about 1000 lbs, and will hold the shop at livable temps all night. It burns "ordinary" size wood, and is very good at running a HOT fire.... My BIL has a bunch of ash growing on his place, so I bought some, mostly split, some smaller limbs, and this stove burns it ALL GONE with very little ash, and once hot, almost no visible smoke.
My current stove durng a test (before the firebox door hinges had been made/installed
The exposed firebrick in front kept leaking around the edges, as it doesn't expand as much as red brick when heated.
I slobbered a bunch of fireplace cement on it, but it didn't last.
recently I pulled those front firebricks and resealed them using high temp fireplace silicone (not shown) THAT worked because it stays flexible.
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Re: Need a low-cost, super effient, wood burning heater?
Interesting stove there - kind of a cross-breed.
Good to know about these designs I think. In hard times, it would be very good to know how to heat a space with a minimum of wood.
Good to know about these designs I think. In hard times, it would be very good to know how to heat a space with a minimum of wood.
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Re: Need a low-cost, super effient, wood burning heater?
A brilliant idea that is only 3000 years old.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ondol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ondol
Re: Need a low-cost, super effient, wood burning heater?
I've been thinking about something along those lines as a boat heater, but the recurving draft probably wouldn't work at sea. I want something that doesn't require a chainsaw to feed. squaw wood and hand saw stuff in my hospice boat. water makes a good heat retaining mass. and can be dumped easier than bricks....
any thoughts along boaty lines?
any thoughts along boaty lines?
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Re: Need a low-cost, super effient, wood burning heater?
Not exactly. Go look again. The sideways exhaust really isn't the feature that I was highlighting.765x53 wrote:A brilliant idea that is only 3000 years old.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ondol
The "rocket" combustion is the real cool aspect - the almost complete combustion of the wood and smoke.
Yes, using the smoke/heat to warm a mass isn't new - I can think of another culture that used that - the Romans used the same kind of thing to heat their baths.
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Re: Need a low-cost, super effient, wood burning heater?
Just go with a portable design but be prepared with a good insulated spot to place it.Grizz wrote:I've been thinking about something along those lines as a boat heater, but the recurving draft probably wouldn't work at sea. I want something that doesn't require a chainsaw to feed. squaw wood and hand saw stuff in my hospice boat. water makes a good heat retaining mass. and can be dumped easier than bricks....
any thoughts along boaty lines?
Check that link that I posted- I think it has links to portable designs.
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Pitchy wrote:Cool, might have to try making one too.
Hey, Pitchy - is there any land for sale around your place?