OT - Which .22lr semi pistol for silencer would

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OT - Which .22lr semi pistol for silencer would

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you choose? Here are some of the choices out there:

Sig Sauer Mosquito

Walther P22

GSG 1911/22

22 Conversion kits for Glock, Sig, and various 1911s,

Beretta 21

Ruger Mk series

Browning Buckmark series


I would like external threaded to avoid the need for an adaptor for the suppressor I have already purchased. Important concerns are functionality (reliable feed with subsonic ammo), good sights, accurate.

My thoughts are the Ruger might be the most accurate but too big as this would be a supplimental firearm for discrete use. The beretta the most conceilable but least accurate (though I have loved the ones I have used over the years). The Walther P22 is very balanced in a small package, but I don't know about the accuracy or reliability). The Sig I have heard are finicky (though I don't know that to be true) but of all, I think offers the right size and accuracy.

So I need your thoughts on what you would choose, and any thoughts specifically on the Walther vs Sig which are the two I am leaning towards. I have considered getting a threaded conversion kit for the Kimber, but then I would have to go through the pain of selling the conversion kit I have and the firearm still may be heavier than I want to carry as a supplimental firearm. I carry a 3 inch 29 in .44mag as my primary afield mostly or my M1917 Colt in .45acp. The .22 I carry now is my NAA ranger in .22mag. I was thinking on hiking trips, especially in parks and such, I might carry the surpressed .22 in my concealed pocket of my pack (it is meant for a handgun) that I could easily have it drawn and used on say, a timber rattler, with out drawing any attention to act - for example. My primary is there for other more nefarious critters. Anyway, I look forward to your comments. I have time to choose since it takes a while for the stamp to arrive for the silencer.
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Re: OT - Which .22lr semi pistol for silencer work would

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I would use a Ruger Mk III or II which ever I had. The barrel and reciever are round and chucking in a lathe to thread the end of the barrel would be a snap.

I was shooting a supressed Ruger MKIII this morning. Nice!
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I'd go with the Ruger as a first choice as it's a proven platform with the can.

If I has to make a choice between a Walther and a Sig I'd go with the Walther. Having had a "PP" in .22 LR it was always reliable and as accurate as a rifle... literally. I was once able to hit a gallon bleach jug at 60 yards with mine that my boss was having trouble with using a Nylon 66.
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Re: OT - Which .22lr semi pistol for silencer work would

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Between the Sig and the Walther, I would choose the Sig. My son has a threaded Mosquito that he bought a couple of years ago with plans to fit it with a silencer. It is a good looking and good shooting pistol. I've heard that some have had problems with theirs (I-net stuff) but his has always run great.

The only Walther P22 that I had any experience with was my nephew's; it was accurate enough but it had failure to feed issues with more than one brand of ammo. Plus, to me, the Sig has a quality look and feel that the Walther just doesn't have.
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Re: OT - Which .22lr semi pistol for silencer work would

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The Walther that I am talking about is the current P22 NOT a PP chambered in 22LR like Rusty has. The only things those two Walthers have in common is the brand name and the chambering.
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Re: OT - Which .22lr semi pistol for silencer work would

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I would go with either the Ruger (first choice) or the Browning. I would also opt for an integrated suppressor rather than a screw on model. Then the added length is no longer (pun intended) an issue.
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Re: OT - Which .22lr semi pistol for silencer work would

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I don't think that there's any question, it is the Ruger MKIII that comes threaded...
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I've had both a suppressed Ruger, and a suppressed Hi-Standard Victor. I preferred the Ruger for that application.
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Hobie wrote:I don't think that there's any question, it is the Ruger MKIII that comes threaded...
So does the Walther. I've never had any feeding issues. Too many safeties for my liking on the Walther, though.
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vancelw wrote:I'd throw any Sig in the river and call it progress.
c'mon now... Throw those worthless Sigs my way, I'll get rid of them for you.

Back on topic; Rjohns94 seemed to be trying to decide between the Sig and the Walther. Me, I would choose a Ruger MkII or MkIII over any of the others.
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Ruger MKIII :D
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About two hours ago I was in a gun shop and the guy behind the counter was showing my friend a new Ruger semi-auto 22 they got in that was set up for a can right from the factory. It had a rail on top of the receiver, another under the barrel, a polymer receiver/grip, and the barrel was threaded. It came with a thread protector. Price was $349 if I remember right.
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Like others have said, go with the integrated supressed Ruger. You will be happy. The barrel looks bull barrelled, but is actually pretty light. I wasn't using sub-sonics or taking other measures to make the gun I used quieter, and I would describe it as sounding like a twig snap or quieter. It got the job done. Personally, I would consider the laser on the grip as well. Depending on the use it can be handy.
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Yep - get the integrally suppressed one. I think Liberty and Thompson Machine both make good ones that are disassemblable/cleanable, AND function with both subsonic and normal ammo.
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My thread got eaten.


http://www.tacticalsol.com/products

This is the company i've dealt with, though Ruger apparently now makes one similar, or a collaboration.
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Re: OT - Which .22lr semi pistol for silencer would

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When I eventually get off my rump and start the process to form the trust needed to circumvent my idiot sheriff, who won't sign the application, I am going to go with the Browning Buckmark. I've got one already, so it is just a matter of buying a new barrel from Tactical Solutions. Lots of choices and I love the Buckmark. I did see that Ruger now offers their 22/45 with a threaded barrel. So if you were starting from scratch, that would be a way to go as well. I've heard people having problems with the Sig and the Walther, but can't say first hand.

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Thompson Machine "Zephyr" (screw-on) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUjbAzN72uA

Thompson Machine also makes an "Operative" model for the 10/22 (& 96/22, 77/22) AND the "Operative-S" for the Ruger Charger... http://www.thompsonmachine.net/?page_id=14

SilencerTalk thread on Buckmark vs. Ruger - http://www.silencertests.com/forum/view ... 61&start=0

SRT on the Buckmark - http://www.srtarms.com/buck.htm

I think the Buckmark is a 'barrel' vs. the Ruger integral is a 'firearm', but the hassle-factor vs. the whole 'stamp' thing of buying a 'barrel' vs. a 'firearm' is negligible, unless you have several Buckmarks you'd swap the 'barrel' between.
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Just FYI- The Ruger .22/45 comes in two factory threaded versions. One has the rail & no sights, the other has sights intended for use with a can.

I have the sighted version here, waiting on the ATF paperwork to come back.
The gun's ready to go out of the box.
I also have a Browning, but I'd have to pay for threading & then the sights most likely wouldn't be usable anyway.

Maybe remember that no matter how small you try to go on the gun, the can will still be relatively sizable in adding inches to the overall length.

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Yes, but you can take the can off for storage.


Gotta admit i've played with a lot of firepower in my day, but shooting suppressed .22 with subsonics and just hearing a 'click' was still fun. :) Not quite as fun as an MP5SD2, but it was up there with it.

Suppressed Uzi on full auto was more fun, but noisier. :)
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Going with the ruger 22/45. Made the decision last night (or should say during the night). thanks for your inputs. I read nothing good about the Sig in over 545 reviews. The walther was about 90% for, 10% against in some 200+ reviews. The Ruger got 100% satisfaction through a range of ammo.
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So are you getting the railed or non-railed MkIII?
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Railed I think. Not a fixed sight person when it comes to .22lr.
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rjohns94 wrote:Railed I think. Not a fixed sight person when it comes to .22lr.
Please give a full report later, Mike.

I've been eye-balling one of those railed 22/45s for a while. I have a MK II target and love it. Not real crazy about the loaded chamber flags on the new Rugers, but still a fan overall.
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