Elk in Virginia
Forum rules
Welcome to the Leverguns.Com General Discussions Forum. This is a high-class place so act respectable. We discuss most anything here other than politics... politely.
Please post political post in the new Politics forum.
Welcome to the Leverguns.Com General Discussions Forum. This is a high-class place so act respectable. We discuss most anything here other than politics... politely.
Please post political post in the new Politics forum.
Elk in Virginia
I recently read in our local newspaper that elk from the Rocky Mts are being introduced to Nat'l Forest lands in southwestern Virginia.
This is a partnering project involving:
- USDA
- Rocky Mt. Elk Foundation
- Commonwealth of Virginia.
This news gladdens my heart during a time when most of the current news is depressing!
TR
Fire Up the Grill - Hunting is NOT Catch & Release!
Re: Elk in Virginia
Do you know what part of southwestern Virginia? I own some land in Lee county, the southwestern most part.
Re: Elk in Virginia
it worked well in kentucky....and it will work well in virginia too..
most likely the introduction will be in the blue ridge area and off limits
for a few years....
most likely the introduction will be in the blue ridge area and off limits
for a few years....
LETS GO SHOOT'N BOYS
Re: Elk in Virginia
Outstanding. No doubt it'll be a hard draw when the day comes, but I hope you'll have elk tenderloins on the plate sooner than later. (Lent? What's that??)
Cheers,
Oly
Cheers,
Oly
Cheers,
Oly
I hope and pray someday the world will learn
That fires we don't put out will bigger burn
Johnny Wright
Oly
I hope and pray someday the world will learn
That fires we don't put out will bigger burn
Johnny Wright
Re: Elk in Virginia
We had elk in Virginia in the Winchester Front Royal area back in the early 70's and the darn orchard owners had them all killed off !
Granted the elk raking their antlers on peach and apple trees isn't the best thing for fruit production !
Granted the elk raking their antlers on peach and apple trees isn't the best thing for fruit production !
Parkers , Mannlicher Schoenauer’s , 6.5mm's and my family in the Philippines !
Re: Elk in Virginia
There were elk reintroduced in the Peaks of Otter area and they were killed off as well. Elk have been wandering over from KY and some have been shot here as deer and checked as such, legally. That will change.
Sincerely,
Hobie
"We are all travelers in the wilderness of this world, and the best that we find in our travels is an honest friend." Robert Louis Stevenson
Hobie
"We are all travelers in the wilderness of this world, and the best that we find in our travels is an honest friend." Robert Louis Stevenson
Re: Elk in Virginia
Well, you think reintroducing a species is a good idea? Wait till they decide to reintroduce wolves.
Jeepnik AKA "Old Eyes"
"Go low, go slow and preferably in the dark" The old Sarge (he was maybe 24.
"Freedom is never more that a generation from extinction" Ronald Reagan
"Every man should have at least one good rifle and know how to use it" Dad
"Go low, go slow and preferably in the dark" The old Sarge (he was maybe 24.
"Freedom is never more that a generation from extinction" Ronald Reagan
"Every man should have at least one good rifle and know how to use it" Dad
Re: Elk in Virginia
jeepnik wrote:Well, you think reintroducing a species is a good idea? Wait till they decide to reintroduce wolves.
And I'll go on record now to say if they reintroduce wolves in Virginia I have all intentions of shooting them on sight legal or not !
Parkers , Mannlicher Schoenauer’s , 6.5mm's and my family in the Philippines !
-
- Senior Levergunner
- Posts: 1459
- Joined: Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:31 pm
- Location: Arizona Territory
Re: Elk in Virginia
We in the West would love to send Y'all some Wild Horse's & Burro's.
I hear , Burro steak is delicious.
I hear , Burro steak is delicious.
SASS# 51223
Arizona Cowboy Shooter's Assoc.
Cowtown Cowboy Shooter's Assoc.
Uberti 73/44-40 carbine, Rossi 92/44-40,
Marlin 94CB/44 24" Limited, Winchester 94/30-30
Arizona Cowboy Shooter's Assoc.
Cowtown Cowboy Shooter's Assoc.
Uberti 73/44-40 carbine, Rossi 92/44-40,
Marlin 94CB/44 24" Limited, Winchester 94/30-30
-
- Levergunner 1.0
- Posts: 82
- Joined: Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:20 am
- Location: N. West Virginia/Ohio Valley
Re: Elk in Virginia
The coyotes have already found their way there.jeepnik wrote:Well, you think reintroducing a species is a good idea? Wait till they decide to reintroduce wolves.
Re: Elk in Virginia
stickfred wrote:The coyotes have already found their way there.jeepnik wrote:Well, you think reintroducing a species is a good idea? Wait till they decide to reintroduce wolves.
You are so very correct !
Coyotes have been spotted in every county in Virginia including the two on the eastern shore !
There have been rumurs for the last 10 years that they released a few cougars in the Blue Ridge mountains !
Personally I don't care for the coyotes , wolves or the GD cougars !
Parkers , Mannlicher Schoenauer’s , 6.5mm's and my family in the Philippines !
-
- Member Emeritus
- Posts: 455
- Joined: Sun Sep 09, 2007 5:29 pm
- Location: Mountains of West Virginia
Re: Elk in Virginia
Some of the Kentucky elk have also managed to find their way into West Virginia. We have an Elk River, so these wandering boys will feel right at home!
Lobo in West Virginia
Old List Veteran..Five Years..Five Hundred Posts
Old List Veteran..Five Years..Five Hundred Posts
-
- Levergunner 1.0
- Posts: 82
- Joined: Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:20 am
- Location: N. West Virginia/Ohio Valley
Re: Elk in Virginia
I'd heard about cougar sightings from the Piedmont to the foothills of the Blue Ridge for about 20 years starting in the '80s. More than one person saw them in some instances. On reporting it to Virginia Game folks, without a photo, they were all told there were no cougars in the state...no way.6pt-sika wrote:There have been rumurs for the last 10 years that they released a few cougars in the Blue Ridge mountains !
-
- Senior Levergunner
- Posts: 1053
- Joined: Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:12 pm
- Location: Bushwhacker Capitol, Missouri
Re: Elk in Virginia
Someone let some stray horses lose in southern Missouri, I believe on the Current river.Lefty Dude wrote:We in the West would love to send Y'all some Wild Horse's & Burro's.
I hear , Burro steak is delicious.
When the Conservation Department tried to round them up because of environmental and stream damage, all hell broke lose.
Now we have federally protected "wild" horses in Missouri.
Re: Elk in Virginia
A friend of mine who is pretty straight when it comes to sightings and such swears to me he saw a cougar in Orange county which is where he and I both live . This was maybe 8 years ago . nd we are most certainly in the Piedmont region of Virginia !stickfred wrote:I'd heard about cougar sightings from the Piedmont to the foothills of the Blue Ridge for about 20 years starting in the '80s. More than one person saw them in some instances. On reporting it to Virginia Game folks, without a photo, they were all told there were no cougars in the state...no way.6pt-sika wrote:There have been rumurs for the last 10 years that they released a few cougars in the Blue Ridge mountains !
Parkers , Mannlicher Schoenauer’s , 6.5mm's and my family in the Philippines !
Re: Elk in Virginia
That is a bone of contention throughout western VA and I remember people talking about it in WV back in the 1960s. The thing is that with all the bear, racoon and such hunters who run dogs, there's been no cougar contact.stickfred wrote:I'd heard about cougar sightings from the Piedmont to the foothills of the Blue Ridge for about 20 years starting in the '80s. More than one person saw them in some instances. On reporting it to Virginia Game folks, without a photo, they were all told there were no cougars in the state...no way.6pt-sika wrote:There have been rumurs for the last 10 years that they released a few cougars in the Blue Ridge mountains !
Sincerely,
Hobie
"We are all travelers in the wilderness of this world, and the best that we find in our travels is an honest friend." Robert Louis Stevenson
Hobie
"We are all travelers in the wilderness of this world, and the best that we find in our travels is an honest friend." Robert Louis Stevenson
Re: Elk in Virginia
Hobie wrote:That is a bone of contention throughout western VA and I remember people talking about it in WV back in the 1960s. The thing is that with all the bear, racoon and such hunters who run dogs, there's been no cougar contact.stickfred wrote:I'd heard about cougar sightings from the Piedmont to the foothills of the Blue Ridge for about 20 years starting in the '80s. More than one person saw them in some instances. On reporting it to Virginia Game folks, without a photo, they were all told there were no cougars in the state...no way.6pt-sika wrote:There have been rumurs for the last 10 years that they released a few cougars in the Blue Ridge mountains !
Maybe all their dogs are smart enough to stray away from any cougar scent
Parkers , Mannlicher Schoenauer’s , 6.5mm's and my family in the Philippines !
Re: Elk in Virginia
An older western Rancher shared his feelings about wolves, mt. lions, and bears:
- shoot
- shovel
- shut up
TR
Fire Up the Grill - Hunting is NOT Catch & Release!
Re: Elk in Virginia
Nope,6pt-sika wrote:Hobie wrote:That is a bone of contention throughout western VA and I remember people talking about it in WV back in the 1960s. The thing is that with all the bear, racoon and such hunters who run dogs, there's been no cougar contact.stickfred wrote:I'd heard about cougar sightings from the Piedmont to the foothills of the Blue Ridge for about 20 years starting in the '80s. More than one person saw them in some instances. On reporting it to Virginia Game folks, without a photo, they were all told there were no cougars in the state...no way.6pt-sika wrote:There have been rumurs for the last 10 years that they released a few cougars in the Blue Ridge mountains !
Maybe all their dogs are smart enough to stray away from any cougar scent
I have heard from WV, "that dog don't hunt"
and I have heard of WV(ians) that did not own a dog "I don't have a dog in the fight"
but I have never ever heard of a WV(ian) or a WV(ian) dog that would "stray away" from a fight.
Always Drink Upstream From The Herd
Re: Elk in Virginia
True, the coyote range has expanded considerably in the last 100 years. And while they do on ocassion take young deer, they don't do near the damage a pack of wolves do. Now, that's not saying I want to see coyotes run amok. We have had children killed in my area by coyotes. But give a choice of the two, I'll take the coyote. At least you can hunt coy dogs. Heck out here, lions have been protected for so long they are showing up not only in backyards, but school yards. And in areas where wolves have been reintroduced, it's darned hard to get hunting approved.stickfred wrote:The coyotes have already found their way there.jeepnik wrote:Well, you think reintroducing a species is a good idea? Wait till they decide to reintroduce wolves.
Jeepnik AKA "Old Eyes"
"Go low, go slow and preferably in the dark" The old Sarge (he was maybe 24.
"Freedom is never more that a generation from extinction" Ronald Reagan
"Every man should have at least one good rifle and know how to use it" Dad
"Go low, go slow and preferably in the dark" The old Sarge (he was maybe 24.
"Freedom is never more that a generation from extinction" Ronald Reagan
"Every man should have at least one good rifle and know how to use it" Dad
Re: Elk in Virginia
Since I was a kid, I've known hundreds of folks to swear to have seen mountain lions in WV. But I've yet to every hear of one being killed by a hunter, vehicle, pack of dogs, etc. I work guys now that swear "I've seen them on my farm!". Personally I'll believe the stories when I see the first dead one.Hobie wrote:That is a bone of contention throughout western VA and I remember people talking about it in WV back in the 1960s. The thing is that with all the bear, racoon and such hunters who run dogs, there's been no cougar contact.stickfred wrote:I'd heard about cougar sightings from the Piedmont to the foothills of the Blue Ridge for about 20 years starting in the '80s. More than one person saw them in some instances. On reporting it to Virginia Game folks, without a photo, they were all told there were no cougars in the state...no way.6pt-sika wrote:There have been rumurs for the last 10 years that they released a few cougars in the Blue Ridge mountains !
Re: Elk in Virginia
As for the wolves, VA probably already has a few. Red wolves were reintroduced in eastern NC over a decade ago. I haven't heard of any problems with them other than getting hit by cars once in a while. I'm sure they eat a lot of fawns, but trust me, there are plenty of deer to spare around here.
- vancelw
- Advanced Levergunner
- Posts: 3934
- Joined: Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:56 pm
- Location: 90% NE Texas and 10% SE Montana
Re: Elk in Virginia
They're always black panthers, too. (No, I don't mean the two-legged kind from the 60s)JB wrote: Since I was a kid, I've known hundreds of folks to swear to have seen mountain lions in WV. But I've yet to every hear of one being killed by a hunter, vehicle, pack of dogs, etc. I work guys now that swear "I've seen them on my farm!". Personally I'll believe the stories when I see the first dead one.
I've had several people in my family and lots of acquaintances claim they've seen a mountain lion before. If they don't claim it was black right off the bat, I ask them. They will invariably exclaim, "Yes, it was!"
Now we do have some confirmed sightings in our area, but none of them are black. I've yet to see one.
"Make yourself an honest man, and then you may be sure that there is one less scoundrel in the world." - Thomas Carlyle