Elk in Virginia

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Elk in Virginia

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I recently read in our local newspaper that elk from the Rocky Mts are being introduced to Nat'l Forest lands in southwestern Virginia.
This is a partnering project involving:

- USDA

- Rocky Mt. Elk Foundation

- Commonwealth of Virginia.

This news gladdens my heart during a time when most of the current news is depressing!

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Do you know what part of southwestern Virginia? I own some land in Lee county, the southwestern most part.
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it worked well in kentucky....and it will work well in virginia too..
most likely the introduction will be in the blue ridge area and off limits
for a few years....
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Outstanding. No doubt it'll be a hard draw when the day comes, but I hope you'll have elk tenderloins on the plate sooner than later. (Lent? What's that??) :)

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We had elk in Virginia in the Winchester Front Royal area back in the early 70's and the darn orchard owners had them all killed off !

Granted the elk raking their antlers on peach and apple trees isn't the best thing for fruit production !
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There were elk reintroduced in the Peaks of Otter area and they were killed off as well. Elk have been wandering over from KY and some have been shot here as deer and checked as such, legally. That will change.
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Well, you think reintroducing a species is a good idea? Wait till they decide to reintroduce wolves.
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jeepnik wrote:Well, you think reintroducing a species is a good idea? Wait till they decide to reintroduce wolves.

And I'll go on record now to say if they reintroduce wolves in Virginia I have all intentions of shooting them on sight legal or not !
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We in the West would love to send Y'all some Wild Horse's & Burro's.

I hear , Burro steak is delicious. :wink:
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jeepnik wrote:Well, you think reintroducing a species is a good idea? Wait till they decide to reintroduce wolves.
The coyotes have already found their way there.
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stickfred wrote:
jeepnik wrote:Well, you think reintroducing a species is a good idea? Wait till they decide to reintroduce wolves.
The coyotes have already found their way there.

You are so very correct !

Coyotes have been spotted in every county in Virginia including the two on the eastern shore !

There have been rumurs for the last 10 years that they released a few cougars in the Blue Ridge mountains !

Personally I don't care for the coyotes , wolves or the GD cougars !
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Some of the Kentucky elk have also managed to find their way into West Virginia. We have an Elk River, so these wandering boys will feel right at home! :mrgreen:
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6pt-sika wrote:There have been rumurs for the last 10 years that they released a few cougars in the Blue Ridge mountains !
I'd heard about cougar sightings from the Piedmont to the foothills of the Blue Ridge for about 20 years starting in the '80s. More than one person saw them in some instances. On reporting it to Virginia Game folks, without a photo, they were all told there were no cougars in the state...no way.
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Lefty Dude wrote:We in the West would love to send Y'all some Wild Horse's & Burro's.

I hear , Burro steak is delicious. :wink:
Someone let some stray horses lose in southern Missouri, I believe on the Current river.
When the Conservation Department tried to round them up because of environmental and stream damage, all hell broke lose.
Now we have federally protected "wild" horses in Missouri.
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stickfred wrote:
6pt-sika wrote:There have been rumurs for the last 10 years that they released a few cougars in the Blue Ridge mountains !
I'd heard about cougar sightings from the Piedmont to the foothills of the Blue Ridge for about 20 years starting in the '80s. More than one person saw them in some instances. On reporting it to Virginia Game folks, without a photo, they were all told there were no cougars in the state...no way.
A friend of mine who is pretty straight when it comes to sightings and such swears to me he saw a cougar in Orange county which is where he and I both live . This was maybe 8 years ago . nd we are most certainly in the Piedmont region of Virginia !
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stickfred wrote:
6pt-sika wrote:There have been rumurs for the last 10 years that they released a few cougars in the Blue Ridge mountains !
I'd heard about cougar sightings from the Piedmont to the foothills of the Blue Ridge for about 20 years starting in the '80s. More than one person saw them in some instances. On reporting it to Virginia Game folks, without a photo, they were all told there were no cougars in the state...no way.
That is a bone of contention throughout western VA and I remember people talking about it in WV back in the 1960s. The thing is that with all the bear, racoon and such hunters who run dogs, there's been no cougar contact.
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Hobie wrote:
stickfred wrote:
6pt-sika wrote:There have been rumurs for the last 10 years that they released a few cougars in the Blue Ridge mountains !
I'd heard about cougar sightings from the Piedmont to the foothills of the Blue Ridge for about 20 years starting in the '80s. More than one person saw them in some instances. On reporting it to Virginia Game folks, without a photo, they were all told there were no cougars in the state...no way.
That is a bone of contention throughout western VA and I remember people talking about it in WV back in the 1960s. The thing is that with all the bear, racoon and such hunters who run dogs, there's been no cougar contact.

Maybe all their dogs are smart enough to stray away from any cougar scent :lol:
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An older western Rancher shared his feelings about wolves, mt. lions, and bears:

- shoot

- shovel

- shut up

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6pt-sika wrote:
Hobie wrote:
stickfred wrote:
6pt-sika wrote:There have been rumurs for the last 10 years that they released a few cougars in the Blue Ridge mountains !
I'd heard about cougar sightings from the Piedmont to the foothills of the Blue Ridge for about 20 years starting in the '80s. More than one person saw them in some instances. On reporting it to Virginia Game folks, without a photo, they were all told there were no cougars in the state...no way.
That is a bone of contention throughout western VA and I remember people talking about it in WV back in the 1960s. The thing is that with all the bear, racoon and such hunters who run dogs, there's been no cougar contact.

Maybe all their dogs are smart enough to stray away from any cougar scent :lol:
Nope,

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and I have heard of WV(ians) that did not own a dog "I don't have a dog in the fight"
but I have never ever heard of a WV(ian) or a WV(ian) dog that would "stray away" from a fight.
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stickfred wrote:
jeepnik wrote:Well, you think reintroducing a species is a good idea? Wait till they decide to reintroduce wolves.
The coyotes have already found their way there.
True, the coyote range has expanded considerably in the last 100 years. And while they do on ocassion take young deer, they don't do near the damage a pack of wolves do. Now, that's not saying I want to see coyotes run amok. We have had children killed in my area by coyotes. But give a choice of the two, I'll take the coyote. At least you can hunt coy dogs. Heck out here, lions have been protected for so long they are showing up not only in backyards, but school yards. And in areas where wolves have been reintroduced, it's darned hard to get hunting approved.
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Hobie wrote:
stickfred wrote:
6pt-sika wrote:There have been rumurs for the last 10 years that they released a few cougars in the Blue Ridge mountains !
I'd heard about cougar sightings from the Piedmont to the foothills of the Blue Ridge for about 20 years starting in the '80s. More than one person saw them in some instances. On reporting it to Virginia Game folks, without a photo, they were all told there were no cougars in the state...no way.
That is a bone of contention throughout western VA and I remember people talking about it in WV back in the 1960s. The thing is that with all the bear, racoon and such hunters who run dogs, there's been no cougar contact.
Since I was a kid, I've known hundreds of folks to swear to have seen mountain lions in WV. But I've yet to every hear of one being killed by a hunter, vehicle, pack of dogs, etc. I work guys now that swear "I've seen them on my farm!". Personally I'll believe the stories when I see the first dead one.
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As for the wolves, VA probably already has a few. Red wolves were reintroduced in eastern NC over a decade ago. I haven't heard of any problems with them other than getting hit by cars once in a while. I'm sure they eat a lot of fawns, but trust me, there are plenty of deer to spare around here.
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JB wrote: Since I was a kid, I've known hundreds of folks to swear to have seen mountain lions in WV. But I've yet to every hear of one being killed by a hunter, vehicle, pack of dogs, etc. I work guys now that swear "I've seen them on my farm!". Personally I'll believe the stories when I see the first dead one.
They're always black panthers, too. :roll: (No, I don't mean the two-legged kind from the 60s)
I've had several people in my family and lots of acquaintances claim they've seen a mountain lion before. If they don't claim it was black right off the bat, I ask them. They will invariably exclaim, "Yes, it was!" :lol:

Now we do have some confirmed sightings in our area, but none of them are black. I've yet to see one.
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