30/30, 86gr JSP loads?
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30/30, 86gr JSP loads?
Anybody here have favorite loads for the 30/30win using Hornady 30cal 85gr JSP's with Unique powder? TIA
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Re: 30/30, 86gr JSP loads?
What?!
I just want a low velocity plinking load. The load that I was given last year using 27gr IMR 3031 does work, but the primers are backing out a bit, hence the query for Unique loads.
I just want a low velocity plinking load. The load that I was given last year using 27gr IMR 3031 does work, but the primers are backing out a bit, hence the query for Unique loads.
Re: 30/30, 86gr JSP loads?
Primers backing out? Photos? Could be a couple of reasons for that.
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Re: 30/30, 86gr JSP loads?
What primers are you using in that load?
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Re: 30/30, 86gr JSP loads?
Off the top of my head I remember those bullets measure .312 !!
Could be wrong.
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Re: 30/30, 86gr JSP loads?
.308 SP bullet for the .30 Luger that works. The original load was an FMJ. We couldn't find those at the time we were fooling with the load (provided by John Kort). If it is backing out primers something isn't right.Bullard4075 wrote:Off the top of my head I remember those bullets measure .312 !!
Could be wrong.
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Re: 30/30, 86gr JSP loads?
try 4-8 grains of Unique or Red Dot, Been using that since '73 with 113gr Lee FP for a squirrel load and general plinking/shooting.
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Re: 30/30, 86gr JSP loads?
Primers backing out would indicate there isn't enough pressure to set the case back against the bolt face. Similar effect of shooting wax bullets in a revolver without enlarging primer flash holes. Like three legged turtle mentions go with quicker powder and it should be okay. Unique is a good powder for this as well, don't know charge weight, sorry.
Re: 30/30, 86gr JSP loads?
27 gr. of IMR 3031 doesn't give me that problem, whatever is happening in his rifle.
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Re: 30/30, 86gr JSP loads?
[quote="Hobie.308 SP bullet for the .30 Luger that works. The original load was an FMJ. We couldn't find those at the time we were fooling with the load (provided by John Kort). If it is backing out primers something isn't right.[/quote]
Near as I can figure, 27gr IMR3031 is too lite a load for an 85gr bullet. Heck, the case doesn't even expand, how's that for lite. I was going to try 30gr 3031, but figured Unique would be a better powder for a lite plinking load.
BTW, Win factory ammo doesn't have the primer packing out in my Win 94.
Thanks for the help, guys.
Near as I can figure, 27gr IMR3031 is too lite a load for an 85gr bullet. Heck, the case doesn't even expand, how's that for lite. I was going to try 30gr 3031, but figured Unique would be a better powder for a lite plinking load.
BTW, Win factory ammo doesn't have the primer packing out in my Win 94.
Thanks for the help, guys.
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Re: 30/30, 86gr JSP loads?
Cliff wrote:Primers backing out would indicate there isn't enough pressure to set the case back against the bolt face. Similar effect of shooting wax bullets in a revolver without enlarging primer flash holes. Like three legged turtle mentions go with quicker powder and it should be okay. Unique is a good powder for this as well, don't know charge weight, sorry.
Thanks, Cliff, you hit the nail on the head!
Re: 30/30, 86gr JSP loads?
SJPrice wrote:What primers are you using in that load?
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Re: 30/30, 86gr JSP loads?
Thanks, 3leggedturtle. The RCBS cast bullet manual has a load of 9.0-11.0gr Unique for their 30-115-SP bullet. I think I'll try a starting load of 7.0gr for 5rds (one round at a time) and see what happens.3leggedturtle wrote:try 4-8 grains of Unique or Red Dot, Been using that since '73 with 113gr Lee FP for a squirrel load and general plinking/shooting.
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Re: 30/30, 86gr JSP loads?
"Any man who covers his face and packs a gun is a legitimate target for any decent citizen"Bullard4075 wrote:Off the top of my head I remember those bullets measure .312 !!
Could be wrong.
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" secret police " in this country are a no-no.
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+1 on that. If you are enforcing a 'just' law, you don't need a disguise.mescalero1 wrote:" secret police " in this country are a no-no.
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Re: 30/30, 86gr JSP loads?
AJMD429 wrote:+1 on that. If you are enforcing a 'just' law, you don't need a disguise.mescalero1 wrote:" secret police " in this country are a no-no.
Agree 100%, even though it has nothing to do with what I posted about. I remember a one panel cartoon that shows what looks like a stuffed swat member mounted on the wall with the shooter telling a guest that he didn't know what it was, but he found it lerking out behind the house and shot it with his 30/30.
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haha I would like to see that1894cfan wrote:AJMD429 wrote:+1 on that. If you are enforcing a 'just' law, you don't need a disguise.mescalero1 wrote:" secret police " in this country are a no-no.
Agree 100%, even though it has nothing to do with what I posted about. I remember a one panel cartoon that shows what looks like a stuffed swat member mounted on the wall with the shooter telling a guest that he didn't know what it was, but he found it lerking out behind the house and shot it with his 30/30.
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PLEASE PLEASE, DON'T SHOOT THE LONE RANGER!AJMD429 wrote:+1 on that. If you are enforcing a 'just' law, you don't need a disguise.mescalero1 wrote:" secret police " in this country are a no-no.
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Ya got that rightmescalero1 wrote:" secret police " in this country are a no-no.
but my point was that in fact the police in this country do wear masks -- as in Swat Teams and others in some circumstances so, let's be careful who we're shootin.
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"but my point was that in fact the police in this country do wear masks -- as in Swat Teams and others in some circumstances so......"
Which makes them "Secret Police".
No respectable man, police or otherwise covers his face if he is doing right.
I stand by my , or rather Mr Cooper's, statement.
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Which makes them "Secret Police".
No respectable man, police or otherwise covers his face if he is doing right.
I stand by my , or rather Mr Cooper's, statement.
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