OT - M1-A vs. .45-70

[AJMD429]

Just KIDDING...!

[awp101]

M1A because .308 is everywhere and the blue helmets don't use .45-70...

[meanc]

HA HA !!!!!!

[Andrew]

Is there a third choice?

[FWiedner]

Each has it's place that the other cannot touch.

[Lastmohecken]

Is there a third choice?

Yes, there is a third choice, the world famous FAL

[Bigahh]

This would have been a good one for April 1st

[JohndeFresno]

Good to know you were kidding.

Now - what's the best way to clean the coffee stains from sputtering all over my computer table?

[Old Ironsights]

Is there a third choice?

50-100. Worked at Adobe Walls...

eeeeeehhhhh.... you durn whippersnappers and yer fancy rimless pointy cartridges...

Me and the boys in Blue will git yer with our fine breechloading Springfields we will!

[KirkD]

The 500 grain 45-70 is good for wrecking the engine blocks of approaching vehicles.

[rjohns94]

I have both but I prefer the 45-70, especially out of my 1886

[Blaine]

The Kids can lay down some suppressing fire with the fancy ones, and I'll pick off the ones that sneak in with the 45-70....

[Noah Zark]

"Rifle, Anti-Vehicle and -Light Armor, M1873 Springfield, cal. 45-70-500"

Noah

[KirkD]

Noah, that is one beautiful looking Springfield in amazing condition. Is it an original?

[shdwlkr]

Ok I will take my 45-70 along with a thousand of the other misfits like me that find this a fine round and you walk up through the hail of bullets in the 400-500 grain range and lets just see how many of you want to continue the discussion. If memory serves me right Picket didn't want to play again after one dose of this fire don't think it has changed much in recent years. Oh then again maybe taking just head shots now because of body armor might just make the game more interesting.
Oh heck give me and a few misfits say with 600 ma deuce's and lets go play and to make it fair we won't start shooting until you are closer then 1 mile so you have a chance to be on the correct mail route so you won't miss any of those 650 grain mail cards we will be sending you.
Oh to heck with the first two just give a us a few of those shoulder held anti tank rounds and we will see if we can get you a new location to be period after they land in your laps. No sense spending a few hours playing when it can all be done on and over in a few minutes.
Na what we need is Bo and all his supports with bull horns and lots of batteries they will put you to sleep before you even realize they are lying to you. Wait a minute that has already been done last fall to be exact and the nation did fall asleep and look what we got for it.

[Noah Zark]

Noah, that is one beautiful looking Springfield in amazing condition. Is it an original?

Kirk:

Thanks very much for the comments.

Sadly, it's not original other than it's an original Harrington & Richardson repro 1873 "Musket," one of 1000 made around 1975 or 1976 thereabouts.

But it is in nice condition, and it's an amazing shooter. I was putting 350 gr LFN cast bullets into a 4" circle at 200 yds last Saturday afternoon, using 13.5 gr of Unique in nickel R-P cases.

I use nickel 45-70 cases to visually denote "reduced" loads suitable for Trapdoors, Sharps, Rolling Blocks, and other low-strength/blackpowder types, and brass cases for the loads I do up for Marlins, Winchesters, Brownings, and Rugers.

Noah

[Noah Zark]

Ok I will take my 45-70 along with a thousand of the other misfits like me that find this a fine round and you walk up through the hail of bullets in the 400-500 grain range and lets just see how many of you want to continue the discussion . . .

Count me in amongst the misfits.

Noah

[tman]

if you have both, you've got a nice battery for any hunting, shooting situation the world over.

[awp101]

Is there a third choice?

Yes, there is a third choice, the world famous FAL

Can I change my vote? That's my number one, right there!

[3leggedturtle]

I'd like to add a M1A but have you tried to find and priced one lately

[JReed]

45-70


Hey AJ if you make it to the shoot I may let ya shoot it.

[El Chivo]

What if you're a paratrooper and limited to just 5 lbs of ammo?

In 45-70 that's like three shots.

[Noah Zark]

What if you're a paratrooper and limited to just 5 lbs of ammo? In 45-70 that's like three shots.

The 45-70's a crew-served weapon. The ammo load is divided up amongst all the troops in the squad.

Noah

[shdwlkr]

el chivo
If you can only have 5 pounds of ammo you and you feel that the 45-70 ammo weighs to much take a 16 and follow the spray and pray rule. that way when you get to the ground you will only have 20 rounds left and weight won't be an issue.
Just because in the past troops have carried the M1, M14 and ammo that was needed to get things going is no reason today to let a little thing like staying alive be thought just carry the M1 carbine in paratroop model and 500 rounds and you will be fine as long as your enemy is within 200 yards.
Or you could carry a big club and hope your swing is good enough or you could just maybe do like the current President would like to do make your enemies feel good with all the money your are giving them to train on how to wipe out America and they will just let you into the family and we can all be friends so we don't need armies, navies, air force or weapons as we will be just one big world family and love each for ever and ever and ever.
There are no threats to our freedoms, lives or way of life it was all a misunderstanding caused by the Bush Administration, there was no terrorists that attacked us on 9-11-01 and 3000 Americans didn't die they committed suicide and it was a big fake out to start a war with Iraq and Afghanistan so they could try out our new war toys. There are no pirates off Somalia that want to kill Americans that is all just a joke the media is messing with your heads.
If it wasn't for those bible reading, gun carrying Americans we would have no crime in America because everyone would be in love with everyone else and there would be no need for money, insurance, locks on your doors because everyone would be equal and there would be no reason for any anger then because everyone would just as poor as their neighbor and have the same nothing to live on, the kids would be dying at an early age and that is the way Allah says it should be so stop your whining and get used to the life style of an Arab.
If you are really worried about the weight of your ammo you could get a bow and arrows and 5 pounds of arrows will give you a lot of arrows to shoot so you will feel safe, until you realize that you don't know how to shoot a bow and arrow and hit anything smaller then a barn door but then you won't have long to worry as those who can carry ammo will take care of that problem for you just fine.