Montana to challenge federal control
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Montana to challenge federal control
Montana set to challenge federal gun controls.
http://www.missoulian.com/articles/2009 ... s/br51.txt
http://www.missoulian.com/articles/2009 ... s/br51.txt
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Re: Montana to challenge federal control
Good for them!
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God bless 'em and good luck to all concerned.
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SmokeEater2 wrote:God bless 'em and good luck to all concerned.
+1Bridger wrote:
Good for them!
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I had an e-mail with links concerning 1/2 doz states that are sueing for "soverenty" or something along that line. The same thing, the federal government has no jurisdiction.
http://www.taxtruth4u.com/eight%20states.html
Good news all around.....
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http://www.taxtruth4u.com/eight%20states.html
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Re: Montana to challenge federal control
Good for Montana. Too bad they are only viewing those with a "Made in Montana" sticker. As for the states suing the central government, I find it ironic since the central government is the child of the States. As such, the States have the right to discipline and rein in their misguided creation. In Oklahoma, state senator Randy Brogdon is at the forefront of doing this. He's pushing hard with the 10th Amendment. He's considering a run for Oklahoma governor: http://www.randybrogdon.com/biography.html ... which has prompted me to contact him to encourage him to do this as well as having contributed financially to his campaign.L_Kilkenny wrote:I had an e-mail with links concerning 1/2 doz states that are sueing for "soverenty" or something along that line. The same thing, the federal government has no jurisdiction.
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Outstanding. Now if more states would follow suit I would feel better about where this country is going.
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Re: Montana to challenge federal control
all this talk about state's rights is good .... but don't forget a fundamental focus of the Civil War: Lincoln decided the Union was more important than state's rights. That is, when the southern states wanted to secede from the Union, Lincoln said, "no." And we know that bloody history.
Part and parcel of the history of this country has been a struggle between state's rights and the United States. No easy answer. Jefferson was all for state's rights, other founding fathers weren't so sure.
It is easy to say, Go Montana, for their commercial product. I hope they prevail.
But these other states suing for sovereignty ?? That got hashed out during the Civil War ..... to the happiness of the north and hatred of the south. There is only "legal precedent" ..... and the willingness of the vanquished to toe the line.
bottom line; the lawyers are going to get richer while all this is hashed out. Some will win, others will lose ..... the winners will be happy, the losers won't .....
Cheers,
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Part and parcel of the history of this country has been a struggle between state's rights and the United States. No easy answer. Jefferson was all for state's rights, other founding fathers weren't so sure.
It is easy to say, Go Montana, for their commercial product. I hope they prevail.
But these other states suing for sovereignty ?? That got hashed out during the Civil War ..... to the happiness of the north and hatred of the south. There is only "legal precedent" ..... and the willingness of the vanquished to toe the line.
bottom line; the lawyers are going to get richer while all this is hashed out. Some will win, others will lose ..... the winners will be happy, the losers won't .....
Cheers,
Carl
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Amen!JReed wrote:Outstanding. Now if more states would follow suit I would feel better about where this country is going.
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And another!!!mklwhite wrote:Amen!JReed wrote:Outstanding. Now if more states would follow suit I would feel better about where this country is going.
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Since the sovereign states created the central government and the entire Constitution is a text of limits on the central government as well as being reaffirmed by the 9th & 10th Amendments... logic would dictate that the founders were very certain as to the role of the central government. It was to be subservient to the states and the people. Lincoln trashed the Constitution and since the victor of war writes the history books, he is made to be a hero when in my opinion he was a traitor.new pig hunter wrote:all this talk about state's rights is good .... but don't forget a fundamental focus of the Civil War: Lincoln decided the Union was more important than state's rights. That is, when the southern states wanted to secede from the Union, Lincoln said, "no." And we know that bloody history.
Part and parcel of the history of this country has been a struggle between state's rights and the United States. No easy answer. Jefferson was all for state's rights, other founding fathers weren't so sure.
It is easy to say, Go Montana, for their commercial product. I hope they prevail.
But these other states suing for sovereignty ?? That got hashed out during the Civil War ..... to the happiness of the north and hatred of the south. There is only "legal precedent" ..... and the willingness of the vanquished to toe the line.
bottom line; the lawyers are going to get richer while all this is hashed out. Some will win, others will lose ..... the winners will be happy, the losers won't .....
Cheers,
Carl
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I have never understood why Lincoln is held in such high regard. He is given credit for things he didn't do, and his administration was the first major shift toward centralization of power and constriction of personal liberty.DBW wrote: Since the sovereign states created the central government and the entire Constitution is a text of limits on the central government as well as being reaffirmed by the 9th & 10th Amendments... logic would dictate that the founders were very certain as to the role of the central government. It was to be subservient to the states and the people. Lincoln trashed the Constitution and since the victor of war writes the history books, he is made to be a hero when in my opinion he was a traitor.
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The victor of war always writes the history books.Otto wrote: I have never understood why Lincoln is held in such high regard. He is given credit for things he didn't do, and his administration was the first major shift toward centralization of power and constriction of personal liberty.
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