Knocking down piggies & rams...
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- Old Ironsights
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Knocking down piggies & rams...
Ahhh... tis much better to shoot offhand at 200yds with a tang than the buckhorns. Only the third time out with the 1886, 1st time with new guts & sight, and shot passibly well with it - especially at 100 to 200yds. Not spectacular, only rang up 50% total... but Note to Self: Tang sights at 50yds are not helpful and the aperature should be removed before shooting it in the folded position... (ouch)...
For a lark, I also tried the .357 (180 @ 1800) on the "big bore" (IMHSA) sillhouettes... THAT is somthing I'm going to have to do more often.
9 for 10 at 100 (expected) and 5 for 10 at 200 (not expected)... got half of the 150 turkeys too.
Now I've just got to practice that 18" drop at 200 some more...
For a lark, I also tried the .357 (180 @ 1800) on the "big bore" (IMHSA) sillhouettes... THAT is somthing I'm going to have to do more often.
9 for 10 at 100 (expected) and 5 for 10 at 200 (not expected)... got half of the 150 turkeys too.
Now I've just got to practice that 18" drop at 200 some more...
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Re: Knocking down piggies & rams...
Nice. I am going to have to try that steel shooting some time.
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Re: Knocking down piggies & rams...
I recently read an interesting post on using the .22 LR standard velocity rounds to replicate some of the same issues of range and holdover and so on, using ranges from 25 to 150 yards, and I think that would be a nice (and less expensive) way to practice at home for the 'real' silhouette ranges with the big guns.
The only silhouette shooting I ever did was with a Super Blackhawk, and it really WAS fun. Something nice about hitting your target and seeing it fall down, vs. retrieving a paper target and going over it with a ruler.
The only silhouette shooting I ever did was with a Super Blackhawk, and it really WAS fun. Something nice about hitting your target and seeing it fall down, vs. retrieving a paper target and going over it with a ruler.
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Re: Knocking down piggies & rams...
Well... I WAS able to hit 2 of the 1/4 scale Rams at 100yds with my High Standard Sentinal and .22 RNL... dang things were smaller than the front ramp though...AJMD429 wrote:I recently read an interesting post on using the .22 LR standard velocity rounds to replicate some of the same issues of range and holdover and so on, using ranges from 25 to 150 yards, and I think that would be a nice (and less expensive) way to practice at home for the 'real' silhouette ranges with the big guns. ...
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A mistake that I will not repeat...Ysabel Kid wrote:Sounds like a bunch of fun OI! What was your load in the 1886?
I had 50 405gr Rainer Jacketed TC bullets that I loaded up over 30-somthing grains of H4198
Problem was there was no cannelure and I had to deep-seat them back almost to the beginning of the TC to get them to feed without pushing-back from the 86's non-throat.
Even then, I couldn't get the fool things crimped tight enough to keep a few of them from recoil-setback ("fixed" with the kenetic hammer & hand chamered...)
But now that I'm out of them I'm goig back to the 330gr Gould - which crimps & chambers fine (go figure... not like it was designed for the 1886 or anything...).
Next batch will be with 1.6cc 2400.
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Re: Knocking down piggies & rams...
Looking forward to hearing how that load does!Old Ironsights wrote: Next batch will be with 1.6cc 2400.
Re: Knocking down piggies & rams...
Sounds like fun. I tried my hand at LG silhouette at our SoCal Reunion in March. I can see how it could be very addicting. I wish I had the time to participate regularly.
And....I hate those darn turkeys 5 for 10 isn't too shabby at all. Good luck!
And....I hate those darn turkeys 5 for 10 isn't too shabby at all. Good luck!
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Re: Knocking down piggies & rams...
sounds like some good lessons were imprinted and the next time will bring even more enjoyable results. Well done and keep us posted on the progress. its been almost 30 years since I shot in such a shoot. I remember it to be great fun
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Re: Knocking down piggies & rams...
Okay, now pick a windy day and shoot at big bore distances: 200, 300, 400 & 500 METERS! The chickens are still offhand, but everything else is freestyle (meaning X-sticks).
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Re: Knocking down piggies & rams...
Why would I want to shoot all the way into Ft Wayne? I might hit JReed...Griff wrote:Okay, now pick a windy day and shoot at big bore distances: 200, 300, 400 & 500 METERS! The chickens are still offhand, but everything else is freestyle (meaning X-sticks).
I doubt you could find anywhere in Indiana to set up a (safe) 500M range...
C2N14... because life is not energetic enough.
מנא, מנא, תקל, ופרסין Daniel 5:25-28... Got 7.62?
Not Depressed enough yet? Go read National Geographic, July 1976
Gott und Gewehr mit uns!
מנא, מנא, תקל, ופרסין Daniel 5:25-28... Got 7.62?
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Re: Knocking down piggies & rams...
I know that is the course of fire for BPCR. Is there a Levergun shoot like that as well?Griff wrote:Okay, now pick a windy day and shoot at big bore distances: 200, 300, 400 & 500 METERS! The chickens are still offhand, but everything else is freestyle (meaning X-sticks).
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Re: Knocking down piggies & rams...
41 Redhawk,
Yes, we have been holding an annual Lever Action Jubilee in Ridgway, PA for the past several years. This year the dates are Oct 4 & 5. We shoot the NRA High Power Silhouette course of fire..steel chickens @ 200M, pigs @ 300 M, Turkeys @ 385 M and Rams @ 500 M. 40 shot match each day.
Shooting is from freestyle...prone, sitting, etc. No artificial supports (cross sticks, etc.) are permitted. Two classes: iron sights and scope.
Competitors can shoot a different rifle at each distance if they want to. It is a fun match. Lots of leverguns and the fellowship is great!
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Yes, we have been holding an annual Lever Action Jubilee in Ridgway, PA for the past several years. This year the dates are Oct 4 & 5. We shoot the NRA High Power Silhouette course of fire..steel chickens @ 200M, pigs @ 300 M, Turkeys @ 385 M and Rams @ 500 M. 40 shot match each day.
Shooting is from freestyle...prone, sitting, etc. No artificial supports (cross sticks, etc.) are permitted. Two classes: iron sights and scope.
Competitors can shoot a different rifle at each distance if they want to. It is a fun match. Lots of leverguns and the fellowship is great!
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Re: Knocking down piggies & rams...
Hi John,
Do you ever get down my way for silhouette? We have two clubs that shoots hunter pistol and levergun stuff out to 100 yards plus one club that has the 200 meter matches too.
Do you ever get down my way for silhouette? We have two clubs that shoots hunter pistol and levergun stuff out to 100 yards plus one club that has the 200 meter matches too.
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Terry
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Re: Knocking down piggies & rams...
OI,
They shoot BPCR silhouettes out to 500 meters at Friendship, Indiana.
http://www.nmlra.org/shoots.asp?cat=Alt ... e%20Shoots
41Redhawk,
The McDonald Sportsmen's Association located not far from the Greater Pittsburgh airport shoots high power and BPCR silhouettes out to 500 meters; they also shoot cowboy lever action silhouettes to 200 meters. http://www.mcdonaldsportsmen.com/
They shoot BPCR silhouettes out to 500 meters at Friendship, Indiana.
http://www.nmlra.org/shoots.asp?cat=Alt ... e%20Shoots
41Redhawk,
The McDonald Sportsmen's Association located not far from the Greater Pittsburgh airport shoots high power and BPCR silhouettes out to 500 meters; they also shoot cowboy lever action silhouettes to 200 meters. http://www.mcdonaldsportsmen.com/
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Re: Knocking down piggies & rams...
I've been to McDonald several times. Once to shoot BPCR with a friend's rifle. They do not shoot Levergun silhouette there however. They used to shoot hunter pistol, small bore cowboy and pistol cartridge silhouette but haven't done so for at least three years now. They do shoot SASS.
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Re: Knocking down piggies & rams...
Hi, Redhawk,
I've only shot BPCR silhouettes at McDonald. Pittsburgh is my home area, but I recently moved to Colorado. I thought they were shooting CLA there. Sorry for the misinfo.
I've only shot BPCR silhouettes at McDonald. Pittsburgh is my home area, but I recently moved to Colorado. I thought they were shooting CLA there. Sorry for the misinfo.
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Re: Knocking down piggies & rams...
in the long run you'll do better if you adjust your sights for the drop and maintain a consistent hold on the animal. I use the belly, some people use the feet (but it's possible to cut off some of the feet and not know it, plus, the feet can vary slightly on individual targets).Now I've just got to practice that 18" drop at 200 some more...
A wide, flat blade lining up with the belly of the animal is the most consistent hold. If you use a narrow blade, you might push it up into the interior of the black shape and be way high when you shoot.
This is why a tang sight is ideal for this type of shooting. It's easy to count clicks and the close eye relief sharpens things up.
I always wanted to try the front sight inserts that have the animal shapes cut out of them. Although, what would happen if the target-setter sets them backwards?
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