I've Never Seen One Of These Before

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Mon Mar 09, 2026 4:49 pm

Evidently it was quite accurate.

TrailsEnd · Post by **TrailsEnd** » Mon Mar 09, 2026 4:56 pm

Once owned by Cupid maybe.

4t5 · Post by **4t5** » Mon Mar 09, 2026 5:01 pm

Must have been used in the valentines day battle .

Bill in Oregon · Post by **Bill in Oregon** » Mon Mar 09, 2026 5:42 pm

What I want to know is the rate of twist in that barrel.

Bruce Scott · Post by **Bruce Scott** » Mon Mar 09, 2026 6:35 pm

Bill in Oregon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2026 5:42 pm What I want to know is the rate of twist in that barrel.

Not stated: https://www.rct.uk/collection/61100/fli ... hbuumlchse

Description
Flintlock sporting rifle from the collection of George IV at Carlton House, London. The gun has a single blued steel barrel of octagonal and twisted heart shaped cross section inlaid in gold at the backsight Walster A Saarbruck. The lock signed Walster A Saarbruck and engraved with a cherub offering a bird to a retriever dog and also chiselled with flowers and trophies against a gold ground. Walnut wood half-stock with horn fore-end cap and twisted horn tipped wooden ramrod. The stock carved with rococo scrolls, a sea monsters head and griffin, the butt decorated with inlaid silver wire work.The silver wire decoration on the butt is taken directly from De Lacollombe, Nouveaux desseins D'Arquebuseries Dessine Grave par De Lacollombe a Paris 1730. Se Vend Chez De Marteau Eleve De Feu Mr De Lacollombe.

This is a gunsmiths tour de force where ingenuity and craftsmanship are added on top of rich decoration. All the external screws are concealed so the gun cannot be disassembled without knowing how to release a secret hidden catch to start the process. The barrel is part twisted to form a heart shape which acts as rifling as well as being designed to impress. Guns with unusual bore shapes were made as curiosities and demonstrations in the art of gunsmithing rather than for their accuracy in shooting.

Overall length 42.5 in. Barrel length 27.25 in. Bore (between grooves) 1/2 in.

AJMD429 · Post by **AJMD429** » Mon Mar 09, 2026 6:37 pm

Bill in Oregon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2026 5:42 pm What I want to know is the rate of twist in that barrel.

Amazingly if you look at the bottom photo in group, it really looks like there is a twist. I guess with an appropriate mandrel you could do a hammer forged barrel with any kind of shape you wanted.

4t5 · Post by **4t5** » Mon Mar 09, 2026 7:21 pm

Like to see the load it used.

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Mon Mar 09, 2026 8:22 pm

Hmmm... so every shot is a heart shot.

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