Back to carry positions
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Bill in Oregon
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Back to carry positions
The topic of appendix carry came up again on another forum, and I went back to my favorite source of discussion on the different positions: Massad Ayoob. He has always struck me as a wise and trusted uncle when it comes to handgun protocols. I am a 3:30-4 o'clock guy, but really hate the idea of having to buy larger pants for IWB, even though it is clearly superior to OWB to reduce printing. Seems appendix would be safer if carrying a revolver, but then you deal with bulk.
One thing I noticed is that Massad has huge hands!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUJd3N8X9Rg
One thing I noticed is that Massad has huge hands!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUJd3N8X9Rg
- JimT
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Re: Back to carry positions
I like IWB just at the front edge of my back pocket. I've carried the 4" Model 10 S&W easily there, as well as .45 single action, 1911 and other guns.
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Re: Back to carry positions
Just about the same position I do... I put my Summertime Special right in front of that belt loop which puts the front of the holster at the front pocket on my Levis. When I wear OWB, I straddle that same belt loop. When mounted, I've always worn a separate cartridge belt with either a strongside holster or X-draw... sometimes both! Back when I day-worked cattle, nearly always the X-draw, or inside a small saddle bag. One ranch had a rule that none of their cowboys could go armed... and I don't know of one that followed that rule. (But what do you expect of a bunch of NYC investors)? Or the cowboys that actually faced the realities of the job?
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- marlinman93
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Re: Back to carry positions
I carry IWB and let a notch out of my belt when I'm carrying as no other way I can do it. I carry just behind my right side towards the rear. It is about the only place I can carry whether sitting in the car, or standing and feel comfortable. In the winter when I'm wearing a heavier coat I often switch to OWB carry as it's more comfortable.
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Re: Back to carry positions
That's pretty much the way I carry too. My OWB holsters put the gun pretty much in the same place as my IWB holsters do.marlinman93 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 19, 2026 11:33 am I carry IWB and let a notch out of my belt when I'm carrying as no other way I can do it. I carry just behind my right side towards the rear. It is about the only place I can carry whether sitting in the car, or standing and feel comfortable. In the winter when I'm wearing a heavier coat I often switch to OWB carry as it's more comfortable.
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Re: Back to carry positions
When I carried a long barreled sixgun I usually wore my Bianchi shoulder holster.
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- Scott Tschirhart
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Re: Back to carry positions
I’ve been carrying belt guns in same place since 1982. But I have to admit that my everyday all the time gun is a j frame smith in my front pocket of my britches.
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- wvfarrier
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Re: Back to carry positions
I carry appendix quite often, after resisting it for years. Its more comfortable, more concealed and a more defendable position in defense of someone trying to grab my ccw. If we are horseback, hiking or kayaking then I open carry either in a chest rig or thigh rig
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Re: Back to carry positions
I've stated many times I carry almost exclusively OWB cross. But I have never explained how I got there.
Waaay back in the stone age Uncle Sam did not make left handed holsters for the 1911 (thank heaven that there must have been a highly placed southpaw when the UM84 and it's follow ons were adopted). The solution was to carry the holster on the left side in more or less a cavalry draw manner. Reaching for the handgun orientated with the butt forward became "natural". So when I began to carry concealed cross draw just felt right.
Once I had started to carry this way I discovered all of the benefits over the traditional strong side draw. Chief among these is probably the access it allows to either hand. I also discovered the fallacy of the reasons the "experts" poo pooed cross draw.
The biggest fallacies are a toss up between "you sweep the entire landscape, including yourself, during a draw" and "it makes gun snatching easier". Done correctly the only thing the gun muzzle sweeps is the ground and the target. As to snatching, it's a lot harder to snatch a hand gun from the rear with the butt orientated forward, and just as easily defended from a frontal attempt. Not to mention that as a southpaw, folks going after my handgun might be a bit confused as to where it is and how it's worn.
Waaay back in the stone age Uncle Sam did not make left handed holsters for the 1911 (thank heaven that there must have been a highly placed southpaw when the UM84 and it's follow ons were adopted). The solution was to carry the holster on the left side in more or less a cavalry draw manner. Reaching for the handgun orientated with the butt forward became "natural". So when I began to carry concealed cross draw just felt right.
Once I had started to carry this way I discovered all of the benefits over the traditional strong side draw. Chief among these is probably the access it allows to either hand. I also discovered the fallacy of the reasons the "experts" poo pooed cross draw.
The biggest fallacies are a toss up between "you sweep the entire landscape, including yourself, during a draw" and "it makes gun snatching easier". Done correctly the only thing the gun muzzle sweeps is the ground and the target. As to snatching, it's a lot harder to snatch a hand gun from the rear with the butt orientated forward, and just as easily defended from a frontal attempt. Not to mention that as a southpaw, folks going after my handgun might be a bit confused as to where it is and how it's worn.
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"Freedom is never more that a generation from extinction" Ronald Reagan
"Every man should have at least one good rifle and know how to use it" Dad