Europeans and their 9.3 combo rifles

[mickbr]

off tangent from the subject of the forum but always wondered at the following of 9.3x 74R/12ga amongst European hunters. I was trying to figure out where the concept starts, a hunter after real big game wants to shoot a rabbit suddenly, or is the idea you only need to bring one gun on a hunt? Combos are everywhere but its more the bigger calibre of 9.3 I found interesting as its like a 35 whelen plus.

Thinking it would probably make a decent big game or follow up gun... 9.3 with a 286gn bullet and a 3" brenneke in the shotgun barrel. Alaska self defence even?

[GunnyMack]

I knew a guy that collected drillings, he had every gauge/caliber combo you could imagine.
The idea is one gun to handle birds to beasts while in the field. Since the European's aren't allowed a 1 of each like we are they make the best of both worlds.
The 9.3 x 74 is closer to 375 H&H in power level. A favorite of mine and I'd like a #1 in it.

[fourbore]

I dont appreciate the drillings either but there must be a reason. I wonder if these sell in the countries that have strict limits on gun ownership. It cannot be to save money, because they look very well made. Or do they still make these? Today I would think a single barrel gun with multiple barrels would make more senses. I like to carry my H&R single shots shotguns and those could be had with rifle & shotgun barrel combos. They called it handy rifle. Very appropriate. Image one could load a slug, buck shot and 9.3x74R and have 3 shots? One has to wonder.

Savage made an OU combo that seemed good for someone who was not an avid hunter or gun nut and just wanted something that could be a do-all gun. Only 2 barrels, not three. And low cost, unlike these fancy drillings.

[6pt-sika]

I’ve never owned or fooled with a 9.3mm . I did own the barrel and action for a 9.3x57 for a couple weeks , but ended up selling it when I found out about what even the friends and family discount was gonna be to get it stocked in a way I’d have liked . Always wanted a 9.3x62 and CZ made it in the 550FS for awhile but I didn’t act quick enough . Always thought that CZ in 9.3x62 woulda been an excellent choice to take to one of the Scandinavian countries for Elk (moose) . I had four drillings for awhile two were in 7x57R one in 8x48R Sauer and the one I liked the most a Kettner hammer drilling in 16-16 and 10.75x65R Collath , made twenty cases for that thing out of 405 WIN fair amount of lathe work involved .

[fourbore]

I’ve never owned or fooled with a 9.3mm . I did own the barrel and action for a 9.3x57 for a couple weeks , but ended up selling it when I found out about what even the friends and family discount was gonna be to get it stocked in a way I’d have liked . Always wanted a 9.3x62 and CZ made it in the 550FS for awhile but I didn’t act quick enough . Always thought that CZ in 9.3x62 woulda been an excellent choice to take to one of the Scandinavian countries for Elk (moose) . I had four drillings for awhile two were in 7x57R one in 8x48R Sauer and the one I liked the most a Kettner hammer drilling in 16-16 and 10.75x65R Collath , made twenty cases for that thing out of 405 WIN fair amount of lathe work involved .

I had that same 9.3 CZ550 FS on my short list and now the whole 550 line is but a distant memory.

[fourbore]

I’ve never owned or fooled with a 9.3mm . I did own the barrel and action for a 9.3x57 for a couple weeks , but ended up selling it when I found out about what even the friends and family discount was gonna be to get it stocked in a way I’d have liked . Always wanted a 9.3x62 and CZ made it in the 550FS for awhile but I didn’t act quick enough . Always thought that CZ in 9.3x62 woulda been an excellent choice to take to one of the Scandinavian countries for Elk (moose) . I had four drillings for awhile two were in 7x57R one in 8x48R Sauer and the one I liked the most a Kettner hammer drilling in 16-16 and 10.75x65R Collath , made twenty cases for that thing out of 405 WIN fair amount of lathe work involved .

I had that same 9.3 CZ550 FS on my short list and now the whole 550 line is but a distant memory.
CZ also did a Kevlar Synthetic carbine in 9.3x62. I should have ordered that one online while I was hoping and waiting to find the FS locally.
I am over it now. Funny, I still have dies and bullets but no gun!

[6pt-sika]

Seems to me Ruger made limited runs of the 77 MK-II and the #1 in 9.3x62 a few years back .

[fourbore]

Seems to me Ruger made limited runs of the 77 MK-II and the #1 in 9.3x62 a few years back .

I had to check that and they did! Ruger African with woods stock. Very nice gun.

I am not shopping online or looking hard but if I saw a CZ, Brno, Zastava and now Ruger 77, it would get a serious look. I dont know, that time may have passed me buy.

[6pt-sika]

Seems to me Ruger made limited runs of the 77 MK-II and the #1 in 9.3x62 a few years back .

I had to check that and they did! Ruger African with woods stock. Very nice gun.

I am not shopping online or looking hard but if I saw a CZ, Brno, Zastava and now Ruger 77, it would get a serious look. I dont know, that time may have passed me buy.

I bought a new Zastava 30-06 in the last 15 years with the plan of rebarreling and making a 6.5-06 or 9.3x62 . It was their cheapest one in the Tupperware stock . Well I have a habit of shooting a gun before I tear it apart . I took it out the stock adjusted the trigger pull and shimmed it up enough so it was floated . Then made six or seven different handloads . Shot groups at 100 yards and three of them were between 1/2” and 3/4” for three shots . So I set the gun back down in the stock and sold it , I hate tearing apart a gun that shoots quite well .

[6pt-sika]

I’m pretty sure they made some 1A’s in 9.3x62 although they may have been a Lipseys item .

[GunnyMack]

Some of the #1s were 9.3x 74 also, I've pinned for one but I'm in no rush to buy one as I doubt I'm going to Africa anytime soon and my 338WM or 375 H&H have it covered.

[fourbore]

Some of the #1s were 9.3x 74 also, I've pinned for one but I'm in no rush to buy one as I doubt I'm going to Africa anytime soon and my 338WM or 375 H&H have it covered.

Ruger did a 450/400 and 450NE. I got the 450/400 and I am very pleased with that. It is surprisingly manageable. Not nearly a rude as those 458's. IMy re-issue was preceded with a Craig Boddington set of three. I am wondering now if the smaller one was that 9.3x74? I think it was. That would have been quite the score to get all three. I do like the idea of proper rimmed cartridges in a single shot. Or a lever, 35 Rem being a exception.

It is too bad this website does not offer some photo hosting. I wish I was seeing more of your stuff and share some of mine. I dont need pics Marlins or No'1 but I am sure I could learn a lot about sighting options and stocks, etc and other enhancements to base model guns. Some single shots have levers.

[6pt-sika]

Some of the #1s were 9.3x 74 also, I've pinned for one but I'm in no rush to buy one as I doubt I'm going to Africa anytime soon and my 338WM or 375 H&H have it covered.

Ruger did a 450/400 and 450NE. I got the 450/400 and I am very pleased with that. It is surprisingly manageable. Not nearly a rude as those 458's. IMy re-issue was preceded with a Craig Boddington set of three. I am wondering now if the smaller one was that 9.3x74? I think it was. That would have been quite the score to get all three. I do like the idea of proper rimmed cartridges in a single shot. Or a lever, 35 Rem being a exception.

It is too bad this website does not offer some photo hosting. I wish I was seeing more of your stuff and share some of mine. I dont need pics Marlins or No'1 but I am sure I could learn a lot about sighting options and stocks, etc and other enhancements to base model guns. Some single shots have levers.

Over the years I’ve had a good number of #1’s of which three were 1H’s a 375 H&H a 416 REM Mag and a 458 WIN MAG . Never shot anything but handloads in any of them and they all did very well with three shots at 100 yards . HOWEVER that 458 would thump the snot out of you . It was an older #1 that I got very reasonable with the original box so within three months of acquiring it , it left for another making me a slight profit .

[GunnyMack]

If I were going to Africa I'd beg borrow or steal a #1 in 9.3x74. or maybe an Alaska moose hunt.
However, I have a 375 that I put together on a Mauser, I remade the magazine box into a proper 4 shot box, straight grain English walnut stock... Only took me 30 years to finish it!
Or I'd take my 338WM, also a Mauser.
And yes they are SIDE levers.

[6pt-sika]

If I were going to Africa I'd beg borrow or steal a #1 in 9.3x74. or maybe an Alaska moose hunt.
However, I have a 375 that I put together on a Mauser, I remade the magazine box into a proper 4 shot box, straight grain English walnut stock... Only took me 30 years to finish it!
Or I'd take my 338WM, also a Mauser.
And yes they are SIDE levers.

I had a 375 H&H and a 416 REM Mag that were built on Interarms Mark X Whitworth actions , both very accurate . But the 1H’s popped up and down the road the other two went , I killed Virginia whitetails with both 375’s as well as both 416’s .

[GunnyMack]

The MkX's were very good actions.
My 375 is on an Argentine, the 338 is a k98.
Both are better shooters than I am !