I just couldn't bring myself to do it

Post all political posts here.

Moderators: Hobie, AmBraCol

Forum rules
The rules are simple...
- no advocation of violence to anyone
- no cursing

Violation of the rules will result in deletion of the topic.
Post Reply
Message
Author
User avatar
Ysabel Kid
Moderator
Posts: 24993
Joined: Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:10 pm
Location: South Carolina, USA
Contact:

I just couldn't bring myself to do it

#1 Post by Ysabel Kid » Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:43 pm

I know I should of, but I just could not stomach it.

Primary voting is happening in South Carolina today. SC is an "open primary" state, meaning you can vote for either party (you can't vote for both; you have to pick). Actually, Trump is running unopposed in SC, so really it is just the demo-rats primary today.

The strategic idea for the conservatives in the state is to go to the polls and vote for Bernie. The idea being this will finish off Biden's campaign once and for all, as SC is his last hope. This was based on the thought 4+ weeks ago that Biden was the front-runner on the evil side. The hope was to push Sanders, who shouldn't be able to beat Trump in November, and throw the demo convention into chaos.

Well, Biden hasn't been the front runner for weeks, and apparently doesn't even remember what office he's running for (introduced himself at a campaign stop down here as running for the Senate!). His "150 million killed by guns since 2007" even caught the ire of the gun-control-wackos. He has essentially imploded, so SC, even if he pulls off a miracle win, is probably just forestalling the inevitable.

Meanwhile, that commie-ba$tard (well, they all are, but the one who essentially admits it) has been surging in the polls. And the demo-convention is going to be chaos no matter what.

So, I went to the polls with the intention of placing a strategic vote... and I could not bring myself to even answer the initial question - "are you a democrat?". That would have required a bald-faced lie. That is a level of shame no man of honor can tolerate (lying and voting Democrat), so I turned around and left the polling place without cast my spoiler vote.

I just couldn't do it.

I was, however, approached as I was leaving and asked if I would be willing to fill in a quick exit poll. No problem. When I got it I realized it was for the demo-rats. They are NOT going to like any of my answers!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Image

User avatar
FWiedner
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 8514
Joined: Sat Sep 08, 2007 9:50 pm
Location: North Texas

Re: I just couldn't bring myself to do it

#2 Post by FWiedner » Sat Feb 29, 2020 2:42 pm

.
Sometimes, a man has to make a choice.

Make a choice to banish evil. Pick Angel-Soft over Charmin.

Flush the toilet, Jay...

:wink: :lol:
Government office attracts the power-mad, yet it's people who just want to be left alone to live life on their own terms who are considered dangerous.

piller
Posting leader...
Posts: 9822
Joined: Sat Sep 29, 2007 9:49 pm
Location: South of Dallas

Re: I just couldn't bring myself to do it

#3 Post by piller » Sat Feb 29, 2020 2:43 pm

Texas makes you declare your party when you register. I only get the form for the party I registered with. Spoilers could be fun, but not all that easy here.
D. Brian Casady
Quid Llatine Dictum Sit, Altum Viditur.
Advanced is being able to do the basics while your leg is on fire---Bill Jeans
Don't ever take a fence down until you know why it was put up---Robert Frost

User avatar
Blaine
Posting leader...
Posts: 27864
Joined: Mon Dec 17, 2007 2:22 pm
Location: Still Deciding

Re: I just couldn't bring myself to do it

#4 Post by Blaine » Sat Feb 29, 2020 3:04 pm

I don't have to declare in WA....I'm tempted to pick The Bern for exactly the reasons you stated. We'll see. I'll have to hold my nose, tho. :|
The socialist sheep will vote for anything with a "D" on it, so, I don't know if it will do any good.
I wish for you the courage to be unpopular. Popularity is history's pocket change. Courage to tell the truth is history's true currency.



The Opposite Of Politically Correct Is NOT Intentionally Rude.

User avatar
AJMD429
Posting leader...
Posts: 25958
Joined: Sun Sep 09, 2007 10:03 am
Location: Hoosierland
Contact:

Re: I just couldn't bring myself to do it

#5 Post by AJMD429 » Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:34 pm

Our whole family voted for Hillary Clinton in the primaries when she was running against Trump.... :shock:
Doctors for Sensible Gun Laws
"first do no harm" - gun control LAWS lead to far more deaths than 'easy access' ever could.


Want REAL change? . . . . . "Boortz/Nugent in 2012 . . . ! "

User avatar
Blaine
Posting leader...
Posts: 27864
Joined: Mon Dec 17, 2007 2:22 pm
Location: Still Deciding

Re: I just couldn't bring myself to do it

#6 Post by Blaine » Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:56 pm

AJMD429 wrote:
Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:34 pm
Our whole family voted for Hillary Clinton in the primaries when she was running against Trump.... :shock:
Who knew? :o
I wish for you the courage to be unpopular. Popularity is history's pocket change. Courage to tell the truth is history's true currency.



The Opposite Of Politically Correct Is NOT Intentionally Rude.

User avatar
AJMD429
Posting leader...
Posts: 25958
Joined: Sun Sep 09, 2007 10:03 am
Location: Hoosierland
Contact:

Re: I just couldn't bring myself to do it

#7 Post by AJMD429 » Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:24 pm

"The strategic idea for the conservatives in the state is to go to the polls and vote for Bernie."

I fear that strategy. I actually think of all the candidates, Sanders is the only one who would likely bear Trump.

Remember, Dumbascraps have NO moral compass, and all is about money and power (despite their 'progres sssive' claims otherwise). Bernie-supporters may fail to vote for a not-obviously-socialist, but the other Dumbascraps are so CONSUMED by Trump-derangement-syndrome that they would vote for ANYONE but Trump, including Bernie.
Doctors for Sensible Gun Laws
"first do no harm" - gun control LAWS lead to far more deaths than 'easy access' ever could.


Want REAL change? . . . . . "Boortz/Nugent in 2012 . . . ! "

User avatar
Ysabel Kid
Moderator
Posts: 24993
Joined: Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:10 pm
Location: South Carolina, USA
Contact:

Re: I just couldn't bring myself to do it

#8 Post by Ysabel Kid » Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:27 pm

AJMD429 wrote:
Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:24 pm
"The strategic idea for the conservatives in the state is to go to the polls and vote for Bernie."

I fear that strategy. I actually think of all the candidates, Sanders is the only one who would likely bear Trump.

Remember, Dumbascraps have NO moral compass, and all is about money and power (despite their 'progres sssive' claims otherwise). Bernie-supporters may fail to vote for a not-obviously-socialist, but the other Dumbascraps are so CONSUMED by Trump-derangement-syndrome that they would vote for ANYONE but Trump, including Bernie.
That was my worry. Bernie is a cash generating machine, and almost all of it off small donations. That means a big base. And the $5 dollar Bernie Bro voter cancels out the big dollar Trump supporter in the general election. As Blaine noted, there are enough morons that will vote for anyone with "D" that it scares me.

Looks like Biden took SC for the leftist scum, and Steyer and Buttjudger are both out. I think the latter just did it to angle for a position under the eventual nominee (yes, I'm running with puns here).

I might have been able to hold my nose (and gag reflex) to vote for Tulsi Gabbard, given she's a veteran, but it wouldn't have mattered for operation chaos.
Image

User avatar
Ysabel Kid
Moderator
Posts: 24993
Joined: Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:10 pm
Location: South Carolina, USA
Contact:

Re: I just couldn't bring myself to do it

#9 Post by Ysabel Kid » Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:27 pm

AJMD429 wrote:
Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:24 pm
"The strategic idea for the conservatives in the state is to go to the polls and vote for Bernie."

I fear that strategy. I actually think of all the candidates, Sanders is the only one who would likely bear Trump.

Remember, Dumbascraps have NO moral compass, and all is about money and power (despite their 'progres sssive' claims otherwise). Bernie-supporters may fail to vote for a not-obviously-socialist, but the other Dumbascraps are so CONSUMED by Trump-derangement-syndrome that they would vote for ANYONE but Trump, including Bernie.
That was my worry. Bernie is a cash generating machine, and almost all of it off small donations. That means a big base. And the $5 dollar Bernie Bro voter cancels out the big dollar Trump supporter in the general election. As Blaine noted, there are enough morons that will vote for anyone with "D" that it scares me.

Looks like Biden took SC for the leftist scum, and Steyer and Buttjudger are both out. I think the latter just did it to angle for a position under the eventual nominee (yes, I'm running with puns here).

I might have been able to hold my nose (and gag reflex) to vote for Tulsi Gabbard, given she's a veteran, but it wouldn't have mattered for operation chaos.
Image

piller
Posting leader...
Posts: 9822
Joined: Sat Sep 29, 2007 9:49 pm
Location: South of Dallas

Re: I just couldn't bring myself to do it

#10 Post by piller » Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:01 pm

Gag reflex is out. :lol:
D. Brian Casady
Quid Llatine Dictum Sit, Altum Viditur.
Advanced is being able to do the basics while your leg is on fire---Bill Jeans
Don't ever take a fence down until you know why it was put up---Robert Frost

User avatar
Grizz
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 7330
Joined: Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:15 pm

Re: I just couldn't bring myself to do it

#11 Post by Grizz » Mon Mar 02, 2020 12:49 pm

I actually think of all the candidates, Sanders is the only one who would likely bear Trump.
Nothing personal Doc, but I think this is totally incorrect. sanders could neither bear Trump nor beat Trump.

I don't think anyone can beat Trump AS LONG AS ALL THE "EVANGELICALS" GO TO THE POLLS.

I think that every demographic in America has materially benefited over the last several years, and ALL of that is caused by Trump policies. Trump policies Trump commie policies.

piller
Posting leader...
Posts: 9822
Joined: Sat Sep 29, 2007 9:49 pm
Location: South of Dallas

Re: I just couldn't bring myself to do it

#12 Post by piller » Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:46 pm

President Trump may not be who I would follow as a religious leader, BUT he is the right man for President. Boingie Sandois (spelled the way I hear him say it) could never be the right man for the job. Quid Pro Joe is now too old and too far gone in dementia. Not that he would have ever been the right one for the job anyway, so it doesn't matter. Butt Gag Reflex had no chance, and is now out.

I am looking forward to 4 more years. Maybe we can even get the Unaffordable Careless Act repealed and let Doctors and Pharmacists get paid for their work. Pharmacy pay has gone down every year for the last 6 years in a row.
D. Brian Casady
Quid Llatine Dictum Sit, Altum Viditur.
Advanced is being able to do the basics while your leg is on fire---Bill Jeans
Don't ever take a fence down until you know why it was put up---Robert Frost

User avatar
Blaine
Posting leader...
Posts: 27864
Joined: Mon Dec 17, 2007 2:22 pm
Location: Still Deciding

Re: I just couldn't bring myself to do it

#13 Post by Blaine » Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:25 pm

piller wrote:
Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:01 pm
Gag reflex is out. :lol:
In the end he knew he could take it, butt he ran out of support.
I wish for you the courage to be unpopular. Popularity is history's pocket change. Courage to tell the truth is history's true currency.



The Opposite Of Politically Correct Is NOT Intentionally Rude.

Booger Bill
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 2191
Joined: Sun Feb 07, 2010 5:23 pm

Re: I just couldn't bring myself to do it

#14 Post by Booger Bill » Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:40 pm

[Make a choice to banish evil. Pick Angel-Soft over Charmin.]
Get in the groove. Use Charmin tissue.

User avatar
AJMD429
Posting leader...
Posts: 25958
Joined: Sun Sep 09, 2007 10:03 am
Location: Hoosierland
Contact:

Re: I just couldn't bring myself to do it

#15 Post by AJMD429 » Tue Mar 03, 2020 7:48 pm

This is a good column on the topic by John Nolte on Breitbart - https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election ... joe-biden/


Nolte: 13 Reasons Bernie Sanders Is a Tougher Trump Opponent than Joe Biden

Here’s why…


1. Polls
In the RealClearPolitics poll of polls, Bernie and Biden are both beating President Trump by about five points. So all things being equal in the numbers, my thoughts turn to the following…

2. Political Movement
Have you seen Bernie’s rallies? They look like Donald Trump’s rallies. Bernie is leading an honest-to-goodness political movement. He has a real constituency, a huge base of support to build on.

Have you seen Biden’s rallies? They look like Hillary Clinton rallies. Biden has no following, no base of support, no constituency. Biden supporters will argue he has the black vote, but whoever wins the nomination will have the black vote, including Bernie. And black voters are not turning out in throngs to attend Biden’s rallies. Sorry, the excitement just isn’t there.

Excitement matters in presidential elections. You need people excited to vote for you. You need to turn out voters.

3. Change
Bernie is a change candidate.

Biden represents the past. He’s a placeholder.

Change excites people. Placeholders don’t.

The future excites people. The past doesn’t.

We’re Americans. We look forward, not back.

Did I mention excitement matters?

4. Mental Acuity
Bernie is sharp as a tack.

Biden is exhausted, elderly, frail, and has more brain-freezes than one can count.

Trump is going to do to Biden what he did to the ailing Hillary — work him into the ground.

Presidential elections are won on competence. More than issues or anything else, it is competence that wins elections, that makes the difference.

When’s the last time an incompetent candidate won the presidency?

Biden spent two weeks lying (or fantasizing) about being arrested as a U.S. Senator in South Africa in support of Nelson Mandela.

Bernie is competent.

Biden is not.

5. Political Ability
Bernie is a much better politician than Biden, who’s undisciplined and forever shooting off his stupid mouth (see #4).

6. Intelligence
Bernie is smarter than Biden.

Being smarter than Biden is a low bar, so I want to be fair: Bernie is just smart. On the ball.

7. Debates
Bernie is a much better debater than Biden, and I look forward to their one-on-one debates after the Democrat field clears.

8. The Iraq War
Bernie opposed the Iraq War.

Biden not only supported the Iraq War, he vigorously supported it and is now trying to lie his way out of that fact.

Trump will beat Biden senseless over Iraq.

9. Corruption
As of now, I know of no major scandals in Bernie’s past.

Biden, however, still can’t explain his son Hunter’s looting of Ukraine and China, and he still can’t explain why he did what Trump was falsely impeached for — using the threat of withholding U.S. aid to extort Ukraine into firing a government prosecutor looking into Hunter’s corrupt company.

10. Record of Failures
Bernie’s record is of a Senator who never did much.

The Obama-Biden administration oversaw the worst economic “recovery” in a hundred years, bungled Libya, spied on Trump’s campaign, spied on journalists, gave deadly firearms to Mexican drug lords, botched Obamacare, allowed red lines to be crossed, and did nothing effective about ISIS.

11. History Repeats Itself
In 2004, we saw Democrats do the exact same thing to Howard Dean that they are now attempting to do to Bernie — destroy the insurgent who creates all the excitement with their base, especially young voters. With the help of the media — and the infamous Dean Scream — they wiped Dean out in order to prop up the nice, safe, dull, establishment John Kerry, who went on to lose to George W. Bush.

At the time, Bush was running for re-election on a much weaker record than Trump’s, and Kerry is more on the ball than the 78-year-old Biden, who has never really been on the ball.

Then , in 2008, the Democrats got smart and chose the insurgent Barack Obama — the guy who excited the base and young voters — over the dull, establishment, and entitled Hillary Clinton. With Obama, they won two presidential elections in a row.

Then, in 2016, Democrats chose the dull, establishment Hillary over Bernie, the guy who created all the excitement… And they lost.

Don’t make me mention excitement again.

12. Racism
Unlike Trump, no one has to lie to prove Joe Biden’s a racist.

Bernie doesn’t have any racial issues I’m aware of.

13. Serial Young Girl-Touching
Biden’s creepy behavior with young girls is on film, and there’s a lot of it. If Biden wins the nomination, Trump supporters are going to — and justifiably so — go crazy with it. Trump can tie Biden up in knots with this stuff.

I’m unaware of anything similar in Bernie’s past, and I don’t want to hear about his silly fiction writing. There’s a big difference between purple prose and sniffing up a schoolgirl.



Bernie or Biden?

The smart, savvy politician, the change candidate who has a real following, or…

The tired, old mentally exhausted, gaffe machine with a terrible record and no vision for the future?

I’m not saying Biden can’t beat Trump.

I’m not saying Bernie can’t lose to Trump.

I’m just pointing to the lay of the land.

I’m also saying that, just like establishment Republicans in 2016, establishment Democrats would rather lose the presidency in 2020 than lose control of the Party to Bernie.


If Sanders is the nominee, PARTICULARLY if he picks a black/hispanic and/or female and/or gay/lesbian VP, he will get LOTS of votes:

All the College SnowFlake crowd
Most of whatever 'victim group(s)' he can include via a VP
All the wealth-envy, materialist crowd
All the "I've always voted Democrat, because they're for the Little Guy" crowd
...and all the other low-information, politically and historically-illiterate crowd

Yes, Trump is smarter than Sanders, and has Truth on his side, but the Democrat/'progressive' crowd doesn't think that any deeper than 'Orange Man Bad', and has never cared about truth.

Pray we DON'T see Sanders as nominee - too many on the left somehow think that the fact that socialism ALWAYS results in poverty, misery, death, persecution of minorities, and destruction of culture, somehow doesn't mean it won't work THE NEXT time we try it. I think many of them are just so focused on taking the wealthy down a notch, or getting one up on those nasty gun owners, that they have no clue about any other thing.
Doctors for Sensible Gun Laws
"first do no harm" - gun control LAWS lead to far more deaths than 'easy access' ever could.


Want REAL change? . . . . . "Boortz/Nugent in 2012 . . . ! "

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests