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Another Civil War ?

#1 Post by Pete44ru » Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:15 am

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Some folks are discussing another US Civil War.

It would be a bit different these days...………………..

One side would have 8 trillion bullets :shock:

The other wouldn't know which bathroom to use. :roll:

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#2 Post by Pitchy » Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:36 am

:lol: yep.
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#3 Post by BlaineG » Sun Jun 24, 2018 1:09 pm

I thing it's already started on the Left/BLM/ANTIFA front. Cops and White people are in the crosshairs. Every idiot out there thinks life is a Reality TV Show. It's going to get a lot rougher...a LOT...before it settles down. Remember a long time ago when they talked about the silent majority? Well, we're up and active again. Lock And Load, MoFos... :twisted:
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#4 Post by Merle » Sun Jun 24, 2018 4:07 pm

I also think it has already started, but is currently only a low level conflict..... :(
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#5 Post by Sixgun » Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:00 pm

I think Pete meant this as a joke but I'll chime in anyway........won't be no civil war as the left has nothing to fight with along with no clue as to survival skills...they won't let it go that far as they depend on working people for their needs.

What I personally think is gonna happen is a pandemic of some sort with the majority of the right surviving and right leaning leftists coming to our way of thinking with the residue perishing.......pretty much of what has happened in history during famines and major wars. Mother Nature....the strong survive.-----6
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#6 Post by BlaineG » Sun Jun 24, 2018 8:16 pm

Sixgun wrote:
Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:00 pm
I think Pete meant this as a joke but I'll chime in anyway........won't be no civil war as the left has nothing to fight with along with no clue as to survival skills...they won't let it go that far as they depend on working people for their needs.

What I personally think is gonna happen is a pandemic of some sort with the majority of the right surviving and right leaning leftists coming to our way of thinking with the residue perishing.......pretty much of what has happened in history during famines and major wars. Mother Nature....the strong survive.-----6
They own the cities, pretty much. Look what happens during riots, and such. Bombs and napalm should be so effective.
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#7 Post by AJMD429 » Sun Jun 24, 2018 9:24 pm

The 'progresssssive' left just assumes they can do what socialists ALWAYS do - use violence to force other people to bend to their religious views (atheism), hand over their possessions (welfare state), and yield to their oh-so-'tolerant' social views.

The problem is - 'violence' to them means 'hired-guns', which means what Dan Bongino refers to as 'hard and tough people', in the military and police, and those people tend to know bovine excrement when they see it, and very few of them will do ANTIFA's bidding. (Note that as in NAZI Germany, some police and military will do awful things, but I have faith that in the U.S. the military, and most of the police, are solidly pro-American in values, and NOT the pro-Euro-weenie socialist types.)

Plus, unlike in Germany 100 years ago - 9,780,000 of 'us' in the U.S. own a sixth of the world's firearms. Add another hundred million or so, and 'we' own a third of the world's firearms. (Hopefully 'we' own a similar proportion of the ammunition.)

I just don't see 'violence' as a viable option for the Left, which makes me GLAD, because unlike the socialists, 'we' libertarians (and an increasing number of 'conservatives' who realize that they are really libertarians :wink: :D ) do NOT believe initiating violence is ever appropriate. I don't like violence; it causes horrible, life-changing problems for innocent people, often women and children. BUT 'we' libertarians and conservatives are 'hard and tough people' (even the old ones like me), and wouldn't be good to mess with; once truly riled up we fight to win, even though we are FAR more peace-loving than all the LibTards out there.
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#8 Post by Sixgun » Sun Jun 24, 2018 9:57 pm

Doc, I like your last paragraph.......your right #1...wait, back up......throughout most of my life I never had time to really get into politics...I always voted Rep..blah, blah....but after retiring I have paid close attention to politics and yep, I believe I'm more of a Libertarian than a conservative.

Your right #2....It does take a lot more to rile us up into a fight and like you said, when we do, we fight to win. I personally believe I'm much more dangerous today..at 63 than when I was 25.......you know what they say about old guys...."don't mess with an old guy, he just might kill ya". :D

Your right #3......The right IS far more peace loving. I hate confusion, along with an unsettling lifestyle. I believe in "live and let live" and I could not care less what my neighbor. (or anyone) does. What is it with the Left????? All of their gripes are what WE do.---16
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#9 Post by AJMD429 » Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:19 pm

Sixgun, I think you'd get along well with Dan Bongino....(the linked podcast is one where he expresses what we're talking about).

He and Milo Yiannopoulous are my heros.... :shock:

(the Gay Trump-fan I like for the same reason as Trump: they say what they mean, and mean what they say, and both unhesitatingly call 'journalists' liars right to their face, and call out hypocritical spoiled snowflakes for the dangerous idiots they are. 8) )
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#10 Post by FWiedner » Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:47 pm

It's already started. How many more liberal whackos wading into gun-free zones and murdering school children or concert and theater patrons do you need for proof?

When smoke bursts into open flame, government will take government's side. Any ideals associated with Constitutional law will be void.

I believe that anyone who accepts cash to carry a gun will be loyal to their paycheck.

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#11 Post by mikld » Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:17 pm

I don't see a regular Civil War, more of a guerrilla/resistance action, as even "organized" militias across the country are vastly out numbered, out gunned, and the military is run by much smarter people. Like if for some reason the gov't really breaks down and they come and try to take out guns... :twisted:
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#12 Post by Paladin » Mon Jun 25, 2018 4:04 pm

From a teammate:
Civil War

How do civil wars happen?

Two or more sides disagree on who runs
the country. And they can't settle the question through
elections because they don't even agree that elections are
how you decide who's in charge. That's the basic issue
here. Who decides who runs the country? When you hate each
other but accept the election results, you have a country.
When you stop accepting election results, you have a
countdown to a civil war.

The Mueller investigation is about
removing President Trump from office and overturning the
results of an election. We all know that. But it's not the
first time they've done this. The first time a Republican
president was elected this century, they said he didn't
really win. The Supreme Court gave him the election. There's
a pattern here.

What do sure odds of the Democrats
rejecting the next Republican president really mean? It
means they don't accept the results of any election that
they don't win. It means they don't believe that transfers
of power in this country are determined by elections.

That's a civil war.

There's no shooting. At least not
unless you count the attempt to kill a bunch of Republicans
at a charity baseball game practice. But the Democrats have
rejected our system of government.

This isn't dissent. It's not
disagreement. You can hate the other party. You can think
they're the worst thing that ever happened to the country.
But then you work harder to win the next election. When you
consistently reject the results of elections that you don't
win, what you want is a dictatorship.

Your very own dictatorship.

The only legitimate exercise of power
in this country, according to Democrats, is its own.
Whenever Republicans exercise power, it's inherently
illegitimate. The Democrats lost Congress. They lost the
White House. So what did they do? They began trying to run
the country through Federal judges and bureaucrats. Every
time that a Federal judge issues an order saying that the
President of the United States can't scratch his own back
without his say so, that's the civil war.

Our system of government is based on
the constitution, but that's not the system that runs this
country. The Democrat's system is that any part of
government that it runs gets total and unlimited power over
the country.

If the Democrats are in the White
House, then the president can do anything. And I mean
anything. He can have his own amnesty for illegal aliens. He
can fine you for not having health insurance. His power is
unlimited. He's a dictator.

But when Republicans get into the White
House, suddenly the President can't do anything. He isn't
even allowed to undo the illegal alien amnesty that his
predecessor illegally invented. A Democrat in the White
House has 'discretion' to completely decide every aspect of
immigration policy. A Republican doesn't even have the
'discretion' to reverse him. That's how the game is played
That's how our country is run. Sad but true, although the
left hasn't yet won that particular fight.

When a Democrat is in the White House,
states aren't even allowed to enforce immigration law. But
when a Republican is in the White House, states can create
their own immigration laws. Under Obama, a state wasn't
allowed to go to the bathroom without asking permission. But
under Trump, Jerry Brown can go around saying that
California is an independent republic and sign treaties with
other countries.

The Constitution has something to say about that.

Whether it's Federal or State, Executive, Legislative or Judiciary, the left moves power
around to run the country. If it controls an institution,
then that institution is suddenly the supreme power in the
land. This is what I call a moving dictatorship.

Donald Trump has caused the Shadow
Government to come out of hiding: Professional government is
a guild. Like medieval guilds. You can't serve in if you're
not a member. If you haven't been indoctrinated into its
arcane rituals. If you aren't in the club. And Trump isn't
in the club. He brought in a bunch of people with him who also are NOT in
the club.

Now we're seeing what the pros do when
amateurs try to walk in on them. They spy on them, they
investigate them and they send them to jail. They use the
tools of power to bring them down.

That's not a free country.

It's not a free country when FBI agents
who support Hillary take out an 'insurance policy' against
Trump winning the election. It's not a free country when
Obama officials engage in massive unmasking of the
opposition. It's not a free country when the media responds
to the other guy winning by trying to ban the conservative
media that supported him from social media. It's not a free
country when all of the above collude together to overturn
an election because the guy who wasn't supposed to win... WON.

Have no doubt. We are in a civil war.

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#13 Post by Merle » Mon Jun 25, 2018 4:32 pm

^^^^^^^

yep :x
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#14 Post by AJMD429 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 5:28 pm

Paladin - very well said....!
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#15 Post by Pitchy » Mon Jun 25, 2018 5:49 pm

Very well said but what the heck are we going to do about it, it will take a intervention from God to fix it and I`m not so sure He cares anymore as we have thrown Him out of the country.
IMO it will get worse for us and the deceived will think everything is getting better and we will be weeded out and silenced.
I don`t think the commies are going to sit back and be exposed and destroyed they will come up with some angle to make it is all our fault.
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#16 Post by Sixgun » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:05 pm

What Paladin said sure enlightened my feeble brain. Yes, I heard about the "dark side" of government and who really runs this country. With good ole Donald winning it sure must have thrown some big monkey wrenches in the gears.

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#17 Post by AJMD429 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:54 pm

Sixgun wrote:
Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:05 pm
That's why we can NEVER give up any kind of guns -----Mr. nobody
Yep, and even MORE importantly, why we ALL must spend time with, and influence the kids and grandkids in our lives - even the seemingly-hopeless urban libtards; someday they will grow up and have to get real jobs and deal with real issues without momma and daddy's credit card, and the trust-fund might run low, and words they recall from their past due to things YOU discussed with them might make a difference.

At least I pray that is the case....!
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#18 Post by guido4198 » Tue Jun 26, 2018 5:58 am

Paladin posted:
"Have no doubt. We are in a civil war."

If you don't recognize this simple fact....you've ALREADY LOST.
We are in a fight for our country's very existence. It's instructive to observe that for the first time...the Democrat Party is proudly campaigning for OPEN BORDERS.
OPEN borders....let that sink in for a moment. That means NO borders. NO national sovereignty.
NO America.
The good news is that in their arrogance and audacity...they believe this will be winning position for them, and have no fear of the backlash it might cause. They know they're in a war...and they know that with the support of a totally corrupt fourth estate in the media...THEY'RE WINNING. I see it as a clarion call to those patriotic Americans who have historically been pretty quiet and just "went along to get along".
Better wake-the-F-up folks or you won't even recognize the nation your children and grandchildren will grow up in.

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#19 Post by Sixgun » Tue Jun 26, 2018 1:27 pm

OK, here's a question for you guys who are enlightened to "behind the scenes politics". I'm not.

It's very, very common sense that open borders will lead to all kinds of upheaval....like crime, much more taxes to house these parasites, degradation of our standard of living, unpatriotism, and given enough time for me to think, a host of other maladies that will shortly follow.

Then WHY are the democratic leaders supporting this stuff........and getting support??!! It can't be just for votes.---6
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#20 Post by Merle » Tue Jun 26, 2018 6:27 pm

Sixgun wrote:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 1:27 pm
OK, here's a question for you guys who are enlightened to "behind the scenes politics". I'm not.

It's very, very common sense that open borders will lead to all kinds of upheaval....like crime, much more taxes to house these parasites, degradation of our standard of living, unpatriotism, and given enough time for me to think, a host of other maladies that will shortly follow.

Then WHY are the democratic leaders supporting this stuff........and getting support??!! It can't be just for votes.---6

the pols are doing it to get more voters when amnesty kicks in - free stuff you know.
the general public is too stupid and too brainwashed to see what is going on.
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#21 Post by Sixgun » Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:24 pm

Thanks Merle.....I'm still flabbergasted as to why the majority of white college educated people support the left...as least that's what I read. These people are supposed to be "smart". I like what I am...Redneck smart.---6
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#22 Post by FWiedner » Wed Jun 27, 2018 12:01 am

Sixgun wrote:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 1:27 pm
OK, here's a question for you guys who are enlightened to "behind the scenes politics". I'm not.

It's very, very common sense that open borders will lead to all kinds of upheaval....like crime, much more taxes to house these parasites, degradation of our standard of living, unpatriotism, and given enough time for me to think, a host of other maladies that will shortly follow.

Then WHY are the democratic leaders supporting this stuff........and getting support??!! It can't be just for votes.---6
Chaos is an open door for authoritarian government. The use of brute force to restore "order" has always had it's fan base.

Democrats/Liberals/Progressives/Marxists/Socialists/Communists have been trying for decades to force their perverse social order down the throats of average, decent, moral, law-abiding Americans. The opportunity to force compliance from the barrel of a gun is too much of an opportunity to allow it to go to pass.

Manufacturer a problem and then come to the rescue with a pre-fabricated solution. Is that Hegel?

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#23 Post by Sixgun » Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:36 am

FWiedner wrote:
Wed Jun 27, 2018 12:01 am
Sixgun wrote:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 1:27 pm
OK, here's a question for you guys who are enlightened to "behind the scenes politics". I'm not.

It's very, very common sense that open borders will lead to all kinds of upheaval....like crime, much more taxes to house these parasites, degradation of our standard of living, unpatriotism, and given enough time for me to think, a host of other maladies that will shortly follow.

Then WHY are the democratic leaders supporting this stuff........and getting support??!! It can't be just for votes.---6
Chaos is an open door for authoritarian government. The use of brute force to restore "order" has always had it's fan base.

Democrats/Liberals/Progressives/Marxists/Socialists/Communists have been trying for decades to force their perverse social order down the throats of average, decent, moral, law-abiding Americans. The opportunity to force compliance from the barrel of a gun is too much of an opportunity to allow it to go to pass.

Manufacturer a problem and then come to the rescue with a pre-fabricated solution. Is that Hegel?

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Ok, thank you...I'm learning....I spent too much of my life studying Winchesters and Colts. I'm now understanding how communism made it easily throughout the world........but.....I find it hard the perpetrators of communism found a following as the followers must not have been too bright to believe that it would work.......that's like me saying every 1886 Winchester is worth an x amount of dollars and as my Italian grandparents would say, "stupido".

The overwhelming majority of Americans are not stupid ....maybe they only know one trade/profession.....but not stupid. That's why Hillary lost and the Red Hen is going to go out of business.----6
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#24 Post by AJMD429 » Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:28 am

When the majority of blacks realize the Democrap party hates then and uses them and starts returning to the Republican party it will end the Democraps power. Even though the Republican party mostly sucks it is better than the Democraps (if they could just drop the Holy War on Drugs nonsense :roll: ).
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#25 Post by Paladin » Wed Jun 27, 2018 8:48 pm

Sixgun wrote:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 1:27 pm
OK, here's a question for you guys who are enlightened to "behind the scenes politics". I'm not.

It's very, very common sense that open borders will lead to all kinds of upheaval....like crime, much more taxes to house these parasites, degradation of our standard of living, unpatriotism, and given enough time for me to think, a host of other maladies that will shortly follow.

Then WHY are the democratic leaders supporting this stuff........and getting support??!! It can't be just for votes.---6

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And how much do the illegals get from SS, welfare, and IRS? Paid votes...
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#26 Post by piller » Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:17 am

Someone whom I went to High School with is a former Army soldier, and only slightly less Liberal than Boinie Sanduhs. He is one who wants everyone to give up their AR15s for the safety of the children. He is getting angry with me because I keep telling him he is deranged and a danger to himself and others. I mean it. He needs professional help.

If he didn't live about 600 miles from me, I would feel as if he would try to shoot me to silence me. Fortunately, he wouldn't come to Texas without it becoming a Demon-cratICK state. I don't have a desire to cause him harm, but he stupidly thinks that means I wouldn't do whatever it would take to stop him.
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#27 Post by Ysabel Kid » Thu Jun 28, 2018 5:18 pm

The violence is ratcheting up for sure. Look at the idiot Waters spouting off, and the attacks on administration officials going to dinner, the movies, etc. One of these fascist morons (and I mean the true fascists, not the fascists calling us "fascists") is going to push the wrong person here pretty soon.

They are lucky our side tends to be so reasoned. However, if one of the children targeted by these statists gets hurt, all bets are off. I know what I'd do if they came after my kids - and it would make national news. :evil: :evil: :evil:
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#28 Post by BlaineG » Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:01 pm

I saw today that the new plank on the 'Crat platform is to abolish ICE as we know it. No borders, no country and you can bet your azz that 'Crats will have the illegals voting ricky tick. :evil:
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