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California needs Tougher Gun Laws

#1 Post by AJMD429 » Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:35 am

They need a law saying you can't own assault weapons.
And one that says you can't own semiautomatic handguns unless they are specifically approved.
And one that says that even if you own a legal semiautomatic firearm, that you can't have a magazine that holds more than 10 rounds.
And one that says you can't carry concealed firearms without a permit.
And one that says that even if you have a permit, you can't carry a firearm into a bar.
And one that says that you can't murder people using a firearm.

THEN all would be ok.

Or...........not.............

Too bad so many suburban soccer-moms and college snowflakes can't grasp such complex concepts. :roll:
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Re: California needs Tougher Gun Laws

#2 Post by piller » Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:54 am

Unless you are Escargot or related, why would a salt gun be a danger? I kill flies with my salt gun.
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Re: California needs Tougher Gun Laws

#3 Post by BlaineG » Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:47 am

It looks like Kali now has it easier than Washington. :evil: Any semi-auto is now an Assault Rifle with mandatory approved training, every five years, to purchase, and taxes and fees to keep. And, if some thug steals your gun, you are liable at the felony level for what he does with it.
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Re: California needs Tougher Gun Laws

#4 Post by AJMD429 » Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:19 pm

I wonder if these six (or the one who charged in to help) were armed, given the "no guns where alcohol is served" laws there....

https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2018/11 ... g-started/
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#5 Post by AJMD429 » Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:48 pm

BTW - PLEASE write your legislaturds, and tell them NOT to support 'universal background checks'....!!!

1. They are not effective
2. They are misused (despite the law) to create registries, and facilitate confiscation

IF they were actually sincere, and not hypocrites, then they would allow:

A. ALL citizens to access the database and do background checks for 'individual sales', instead of just FFL's, and
B. NEVER record the firearm's serial number - just a 'transaction number' like a credit card approval is done, certifying the purchaser is 'ok'.

Even doing it that way would be unconstitutional, as it IS an 'infringement' - but at least it would show some sincerity of goals.

Until the legislaturds are willing to absolutely guarantee that A and B are true, then they have nothing to say worth listening to, because their goals are NOT to reduce crime, but merely to posture politically, and to harass 'gun owners'.
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Re: California needs Tougher Gun Laws

#6 Post by BlaineG » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:02 pm

AJMD429 wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:48 pm
BTW - PLEASE write your legislaturds, and tell them NOT to support 'universal background checks'....!!!

1. They are not effective
2. They are misused (despite the law) to create registries, and facilitate confiscation

IF they were actually sincere, and not hypocrites, then they would allow:

A. ALL citizens to access the database and do background checks for 'individual sales', instead of just FFL's, and
B. NEVER record the firearm's serial number - just a 'transaction number' like a credit card approval is done, certifying the purchaser is 'ok'.

Even doing it that way would be unconstitutional, as it IS an 'infringement' - but at least it would show some sincerity of goals.

Until the legislaturds are willing to absolutely guarantee that A and B are true, then they have nothing to say worth listening to, because their goals are NOT to reduce crime, but merely to posture politically, and to harass 'gun owners'.
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#7 Post by AJMD429 » Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:49 pm

There is no 'End Game' - the fight for liberty is never-ending, and never-pleasant.

All legislaturds have vulnerabilities; a few can be reasoned with, but many need experienced lobbyists to take them in the back room and say "here's the deal....you either support this bill, or this consequence will happen..." Experienced insiders know what to offer/threaten, and there are people like that; you just have to find them and work with them. I did a bunch of that 30 years ago when Indiana tried to go down the 'assault weapon ban' path.

It is unpleasant, you feel dirty due to the lobbyists and legislators you have to deal with, but it is far better than another Valley Forge.

But nobody will do it for us.

If 10% of gun owners spent 10% of their leisure time being politically active, and 10% of the money they spend on guns, boats, and motorcycles on NRA-ILA contibutions (not just 'dues'), we would all have laws like Pennsylvania or Indiana.
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Re: California needs Tougher Gun Laws

#8 Post by BlaineG » Fri Nov 09, 2018 12:24 am

There is no 'End Game' - the fight for liberty is never-ending, and never-pleasant.
You are wrong...the CPUSA, when they met in Chicago ca. 1917, put the plan in place. They knew they could never just take over like in Russia or China, but to impliment socialism gradually until it took over. Trump blew the plan out of the water. Do a little research. :roll:
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Re: California needs Tougher Gun Laws

#9 Post by AJMD429 » Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:39 am

I know they have that plan, but if what you're saying is that after this law is passed, or this election is lost,, it's game-over, and we are just supposed to give up, I disagree. The fight for liberty is never over; we should never give up, nor will there ever be a time to assme the fight is over because we 'won'.
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Re: California needs Tougher Gun Laws

#10 Post by BlaineG » Fri Nov 09, 2018 12:54 pm

AJMD429 wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:39 am
I know they have that plan, but if what you're saying is that after this law is passed, or this election is lost,, it's game-over, and we are just supposed to give up, I disagree. The fight for liberty is never over; we should never give up, nor will there ever be a time to assme the fight is over because we 'won'.
No one is giving up. Thing is, the West coast problem, and Florida, Texas, AZ, Nevada etc, etc etc is voter demographics. When the majority get to be socialist and voting in socialism there's not much you can do. Nobody is "giving up", Doc, but unless you want to start eliminating socialists by any means necessary....are you understanding this yet? The NRA and SAF (both of which I'm a supporting member) can scream and support until the cows come home but if The People vote it in??? Are you getting it yet? I actually agree with your sentiments, but tell me how to force people to vote in a certain way.
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Re: California needs Tougher Gun Laws

#11 Post by AJMD429 » Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:54 pm

It isn't in my skillset, but I've talked to legislators and lobbyists and there is sometimes the ability to go to a legislator, and say "unless you vote for this amendment to that bill, we are going to be sure that the other bill you wanted passed will stick in committee..." and stuff like that.
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Re: California needs Tougher Gun Laws

#12 Post by BlaineG » Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:03 pm

AJMD429 wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:54 pm
It isn't in my skillset, but I've talked to legislators and lobbyists and there is sometimes the ability to go to a legislator, and say "unless you vote for this amendment to that bill, we are going to be sure that the other bill you wanted passed will stick in committee..." and stuff like that.
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