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Your Gun Rights Could Soon Hang In The Balance
-- VA Tech shootings now spurring the most far-reaching gun control
in a decade

Gun Owners of America E-Mail Alert
8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151
Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408
http://www.gunowners.org/ordergoamem.htm

ACTION: Now that Congress is moving to restrict YOUR rights in
response to the VA Tech shootings, please make sure to take the
following three actions after you read this alert:

1. Urge your Representative to OPPOSE HR 297, the Dingell-McCarthy
legislation that is designed to take the Brady Law to new heights,
turning it into a law on steroids which could one day keep even YOU
from buying a gun. (Contact information and a draft letter to your
Representative are provided below.)

2. Gin up the e-mail alert systems in your state and forward this
e-mail to as many gun owners as you can.

3. Please stand with Gun Owners of America -- at
http://www.gunowners.org/ordergoamem.htm -- and help us to continue
this fight, as right now, we are combating this latest onslaught
ALONE in our nation's capital. GOA spokesmen spent all of last week
doing radio and TV debates, interviews for newswires, and opinion
editorials for newspapers. This week, we begin the battle in
Congress to defeat legislation that could block millions of
additional, honest gun owners from buying firearms.


Monday, April 23, 2007

The biggest gun battle of the year is about to erupt on Capitol Hill.
Fueled by the recent Virginia Tech shootings, an odd coalition is
forming to help expand the number of honest people who now won't be
able to buy a gun.

The legislation has been introduced by none other than the Queen of
Gun Control herself, Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY). But she has
picked up a key ally, as the bill (HR 297) is being pushed by a
powerful gun group in Washington, DC.

On Friday, The Washington Post reported on the strange coalition.
"With the Virginia Tech shootings resurrecting calls for tighter gun
controls," the Post said, "the National Rifle Association has begun
negotiations with senior Democrats over legislation to bolster the
national background-check system."

Rep. John Dingell (D-MI), who was once on the NRA Board of Directors
but resigned when he supported and voted for the Clinton semi-auto
ban in 1994, is reported to be "leading talks with the powerful gun
lobby in hopes of producing a deal [soon]," Democratic aides and
lawmakers told the newspaper.

Rep. McCarthy admitted to the Post that her "crusades" for more gun
control have made her voice "toxic" in gun circles. "So
Dingell is
handling negotiations with the NRA," the newspaper reported.
"Dingell is also in talks with Sens. Orrin G. Hatch (R-Utah) and Ted
Stevens (R-Alaska), House Minority Leader John A. Boehner (R-Ohio)
and Rep. F. James Sensenbrenner (Wis.), the senior Republican on the
House Judiciary Committee."

Despite all this bad news, the Post article does go on to explain
that there are some potential pitfalls.

First, you will remember that this is the bill you helped kill last
year, when an avalanche of postcards was dumped on Congressional
desks by thousands upon thousands of GOA activists. That's why the
Post says there is one huge obstacle -- the members of Gun Owners of
America.

"The NRA must balance its desire to respond to the worst mass
shooting by a lone gunman in the nation's history with its
competition with the more strident Gun Owners of America, which
opposes any restriction on gun purchases," the Post reported.

SO WHAT DOES HR 297 DO?

Well, the rest of this alert will answer this question. This alert
is long, but it is important to read it in its entirety. We need to
"arm" ourselves with the facts so that we can keep pro-gun
Congressmen from being duped into supporting a bill that, as of now,
is being unanimously cosponsored by representatives sporting an
"F-"
rating by GOA.

HR 297 provides, in the form of grants, about $1 billion to the
states to send more names to the FBI for inclusion in the National
Instant Criminal Background Check System [NICS]. If you are
thinking, "Oh, I've never committed a felony, so this bill won't
affect me," then you had better think again. If this bill becomes
law, you and your adult children will come closer to losing your gun
rights than ever before.

Are you, or is anyone in your family, a veteran who has suffered from
Post Traumatic Stress? If so, then you (and they) can probably kiss
your gun rights goodbye. In 1999, the Department of Veterans
Administration turned over 90,000 names of veterans to the FBI for
inclusion into the NICS background check system. These military
veterans -- who are some of the most honorable citizens in our
society -- can no longer buy a gun. Why? What was their heinous
"crime"?

Their "crime" was suffering from stress-related symptoms that often
follow our decent men and women who have served their country
overseas and fought the enemy in close combat. For all their
patriotism, the Clinton administration deemed them as mentally
"incompetent," sent their names for inclusion in the NICS
system, and
they are now prohibited from owning guns under 18 U.S.C. 922(g)(4).

HR 297 would make sure that more of these names are included in the
NICS system.

But, of course, Representatives Dingell and McCarthy tell us that we
need HR 297 to stop future Seung-Hui Chos from getting a gun and to
prevent our nation from seeing another shooting like we had on
Virginia Tech. Oh really?

Then why, after passing all of their gun control, do countries like
Canada and Germany still have school shootings? Even the infamous
schoolyard massacre which occurred in Ireland in 1997 took place in a
country that, at that time, had far more stringent gun controls than
we do.

Where has gun control made people safer? Certainly not in
Washington, DC, nor in Great Britain, nor in any other place that has
enacted a draconian gun ban.

IMPORTANT TALKING POINTS FOR CAPITOL HILL

Regarding Cho's evil actions last Monday at Virginia Tech, your
Representative needs to understand three things:

1. If a criminal is a danger to himself and society, then he should
not be on the street. If he is, then there's no law (or background
check for that matter) that will stop him from getting a gun and
acting out the evil that is in his heart. (Remember that Washington,
DC and England have not stopped bad guys from getting guns!) So why
wasn't Cho in the criminal justice system? Why was he allowed to
intermix with other college students? The justice system frequently
passes off thugs to psychologists who then let them slip through
their fingers and back into society -- where they are free to rape,
rob and murder.

2. Background checks DO NOT ULTIMATELY STOP criminals and mental
wackos from getting guns. This means that people who are initially
denied firearms at a gun store can still buy one illegally and commit
murder if they are so inclined -- such as Benjamin Smith did in 1999
(when he left the gun store where he was denied a firearm, bought
guns on the street, and then committed his racist rampage less than a
week later).

NOTE: In the first five years that the Brady Law was in existence,
there were reportedly only three illegal gun buyers who were sent to
jail. That is why in 1997, a training manual produced by Handgun
Control, Inc., guided its activists in how to answer a question
regarding the low number of convictions under the Brady Law. The
manual basically says, when you are asked why so few people are being
sent to jail under Brady, just ignore the question and go on the
attack. [See http://www.gunowners.org/fs0404.htm -- GOF's Gun Control
Fact Sheet.]

3. Background checks threaten to prevent INNOCENT Americans like you
from exercising your right to own a gun for self-defense. No doubt
you are familiar with the countless number of times that the NICS
system has erroneously blocked honest Americans from buying a gun, or
have heard about the times that the NICS computer system has crashed
for days at a time, thus preventing all sales nationwide -- and
effectively shutting down every weekend gun show.

Perhaps the most pernicious way of denying the rights of law-abiding
gun owners is to continuously add more and more gun owners' names
onto the roles of prohibited persons. Clinton did this with many
military veterans in 1999. And Congress did this in 1996, when Sen.
Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) successfully pushed a gun ban for people who
have committed very minor offenses that include pushing, shoving or
merely yelling at a family member. Because of the Lautenberg gun
ban, millions of otherwise law-abiding Americans can never again own
guns for self-defense. HR 297 will make it easier for the FBI to
find out who these people are and to deny firearms to them.

GOA has documented other problems with this bill in the past. In our
January alert on HR 297 we pointed out how this bill will easily lend
itself to bureaucratic "fishing expeditions" into your private
records, including your financial, employment, and hospital records.

HR 297 takes us the wrong direction. The anti-gun Rep. Dingell is
trying to sell the bill to the gun owning public as an improvement in
the Brady Law. But don't be fooled! The best improvement would be
to repeal the law and end the "gun free zones" that keep everyone
defenseless and disarmed -- except for the bad guys.


CONTACT INFORMATION: You can visit the Gun Owners Legislative Action
Center at http://www.gunowners.org/activism.htm to send your
Representative the pre-written e-mail message below. And, you can
call your Representative toll-free at 1-877-762-8762.


----- PRE-WRITTEN LETTER -----

Dear Representative:

I am a Second Amendment supporter who strongly opposes HR 297 -- the
NICS Improvement Act of 2007 -- and I strongly agree with Gun Owners
of America that this bill should be defeated.

The minor improvements this bill makes to the Brady instant check are
insignificant when compared to the outrageous invasions of our
privacy it would permit.

Gun Owners of America has posted an analysis of HR 297 at
http://www.gunowners.org/110anatb.htm on its website, showing how the
bill will target millions of law-abiding gun owners, including
thousands of combat veterans who served our country bravely.

Supporters of this bill say we need it to stop future Seung-Hui Chos
from getting a gun and to prevent our nation from seeing another
shooting like the one at Virginia Tech. But honestly, what gun law
has stopped bad guys from getting a gun? Not in Canada, where they
recently had a school shooting. Certainly not in Washington, DC or
in England!

I think we've got to stop treating criminals like medical patients,
thus allowing them to slip through the cracks. If we are not going
to incarcerate dangerous people, then all the gun laws in the world
will never stop them from getting firearms.

Don't be misled into thinking that this is a bill that gun owners
endorse. Most gun owners want Brady repealed, not "fixed." The law
has done nothing to prevent criminals from obtaining guns, but it has
violated the Second Amendment rights of millions of law-abiding
Americans.

Sincerely,


*************************************************************


Joe
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Post by J Miller »

This just came in today, Thursday. We, as gun owners are in grave trouble. I've posted the GOA alerts on other forums, and have sustained personal attacks from people who just refuse to read and understand.
On this forum I was at least not attacked. I'm just trying to pass on information. I believe what the GOA states is fact, and I act accordingly.
From the responses I've had on the other forums, I'm leary of posting any more alerts. It's almost as if anti-gun moles have infiltrated the forums with the intent of keeping this information silent. But I will post it anyway. At least as long as I'm allowed to.
Read, think, understand, act.

Joe
Congressional Leaders Moving To Pass Gun Control Without A Vote!
-- McCarthy bill would treat gun owners even worse than terrorists

Gun Owners of America E-Mail Alert
8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151
Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408
http://www.gunowners.org/ordergoamem.htm

"Another gun rights group, the Gun Owners of America, is adamantly
opposed to the [McCarthy-Dingell] legislation. It said the measure
would allow the government to trample privacy rights by compiling
reams of personal information and potentially bar mentally stable
people from buying guns." -- Associated Press, April 24, 2007

Thursday, April 26, 2007

This is going to be a knock-down, drag-out fight. GOA continues to
stand alone in the trenches, defending the rights of gun owners
around the country. It's not going to be easy.

Gun control supporters want to pass gun control within the next
couple of weeks. And that's why, even if you took action earlier
this week, you need to do so once again.

All the gun haters (who have been keeping silent for a while) are now
coming out of the closet and into the open. Take the notoriously
anti-gun senator from New York -- Chuck Schumer. He has been very,
very excited this week. Recent events have given him a platform, and
the excuse, to push legislation that he had sponsored years ago --
legislation that never got through Congress.

You see, Senator Chuck Schumer has been, in past years, the Senate
sponsor of the McCarthy bill (HR 297). And the recent murders at
Virginia Tech have given Senator Schumer the pretext he has been
looking for. Appearing on the Bill O'Reilly show earlier this week,
Schumer did his best to make a reasonable-sounding pitch for more gun
control.

He told O'Reilly on Monday that while he and Rep. McCarthy had
previously worked together on this legislation, he now wants Congress
to take up HR 297 quickly. "The Brady Law is a reasonable
limitation," Schumer said. "Some might disagree with me, but
I think
certain kinds of licensing and registration is a reasonable
limitation. We do it for cars."

Get the picture? First, he wants the Brady Law strengthened with the
McCarthy-Dingell-Schumer legislation. Then it's off to pass more gun
control -- treating guns like cars, where all gun owners are licensed
and where bureaucrats will have a wonderful confiscation list.

In the O'Reilly interview, Schumer showed his hand when he revealed
the strategy for this bill. Because it could become such a hot
potato -- thanks to your efforts -- Senator Schumer is pushing to get
this bill passed by Unanimous Consent in the Senate, which basically
means that the bill would get passed WITHOUT A VOTE.

This is a perfect way to pass gun control without anyone getting
blamed... or so they think. We need to tell every Senator that if
this bill passes without a vote, then we hold ALL OF THEM
responsible. (Be looking for a future GOA alert aimed at your
Senators.)

On the House side, the Associated Press reported this past Monday
that "House Democratic leaders are working with the National Rifle
Association to bolster existing laws blocking" certain prohibited
persons from buying guns. Of course, there are at least three
problems with this approach:

1. It's morally and constitutionally wrong to require law-abiding
citizens to first prove their innocence to the government before they
can exercise their rights -- whether it's Second Amendment rights,
First Amendment rights, or any other right. Doing that gives
bureaucrats the opportunity to abuse their power and illegitimately
prevent honest gun owners from buying guns.

2. Bureaucrats have already used the Brady Law to illegitimately deny
the Second Amendment rights of innocent Americans. Americans have
been prevented from buying guns because of outstanding traffic
tickets, because of errors, because the NICS computer system has
crashed -- and don't forget returning veterans because of
combat-related stress. You give an anti-gun bureaucrat an inch,
he'll take a mile -- which we have already seen as GOA has documented
numerous instances of the abuses mentioned above.

3. Finally, all the background checks in the world will NOT stop bad
guys from getting firearms. As we mentioned in the previous alert,
severe restrictions in Washington, DC, England, Canada, Germany and
other places have not stopped evil people from using guns to commit
murder. (Correction: In our previous alert, we incorrectly
identified Ireland as the location of the infamous schoolyard
massacre. In fact, it took place in Dunblane, Scotland in 1996 -- a
country which at the time had even more stringent laws than we have
here.)

McCARTHY BILL TREATING GUN OWNERS WORSE THAN TERRORISTS

HR 297 would require the states to turn over mountains of personal
data (on people like you) to the FBI -- any information which
according to the Attorney General, in his or her unilateral
discretion, would be useful in ascertaining who is or is not a
"prohibited person."

Liberal support for this bill points out an interesting hypocrisy in
their loyalties: For six years, congressional Democrats have
complained about the Bush administration's efforts to obtain personal
information on suspected terrorists WITHOUT A COURT ORDER.

And yet, this bill would allow the FBI to obtain massive amounts of
information -- information which dwarfs any records obtained from
warrantless searches (or wiretaps) that have been conducted by the
Bush Administration on known or suspected terrorists operating in the
country.

In fact, HR 297 would allow the FBI to get this information on honest
Americans (like you) even though the required data is much more
private and personal than any information obtained thus far by the
Bush administration on terrorists.

And all of these personal records would be obtained by the FBI with
no warrant or judicial or Congressional oversight whatsoever!!!

Get the picture? Spying on terrorists is bad... but spying on honest
gun owners is good. After all, this horrific intrusion on the
private lives of all Americans is presumed to be "okay"
because it's
only being used to bash guns, not to go after terrorists and
criminals who are trying to kill us.

As indicated in earlier alerts, this information could include your
medical, psychological, financial, education, employment, traffic,
state tax records and more. We don't even know the full extent of
what could be included because HR 297 -- which can be viewed at
http://thomas.loc.gov by typing in the bill number -- is so
open-ended. It requires states to provide the NICS system with ALL
RECORDS that the Attorney General believes will help the FBI
determine who is and who is not a prohibited person. Certainly, an
anti-gun AG like Janet Reno would want as many types of records in
the system as possible.

The provision that would probably lead to the greatest number of
'fishing expeditions' is that related to illegal aliens. Federal law
prohibits illegal aliens from owning guns. The bill requires all
"relevant" data related to who is in this country illegally. But
what records pertaining to illegal aliens from the states would be
relevant? Perhaps a better question would be, what records are not
relevant?

ACTION:

1. Please take a moment to communicate your opposition to HR 297 --
even if you already sent your Representative a note earlier this
week. We have provided a new letter (below) which provides updated
information relating to the battle we are fighting.

House leaders are talking about bringing up this bill soon. And Sen.
Schumer (in his interview with O'Reilly) even hinted at the fact that
the bill could come up WITHOUT the ability to offer pro-gun
amendments -- such as a repeal of the DC gun ban or reciprocity for
concealed carry holders -- provisions that could potentially serve as
killer amendments.

Also -- oh yeah, this is going to upset you -- Senator Schumer told
O'Reilly, "I got to tell you, a lot of NRA people, they support
this." Can you believe that? Senator Schumer is claiming to speak
for you! That's why it's so important that you once again tell your
congressman that Schumer is wrong... that you're a supporter of gun
rights who OPPOSES the anti-gun McCarthy-Dingell bill.

2. Please circulate this e-mail and forward it to as many gun owners
as you can.

CONTACT INFORMATION: You can visit the Gun Owners Legislative Action
Center at http://www.gunowners.org/activism.htm to send your
Representative the pre-written e-mail message below. And, you can
call your Representative toll-free at 1-877-762-8762.

----- Pre-written letter -----

Dear Representative:

As a supporter of Second Amendment rights, I do NOT support HR 297,
the NICS Improvement Act. I hope that you will OPPOSE this bill and
urge your party leadership to either kill it outright or to allow
other pro-gun amendments to be offered (repeal of the DC gun ban,
reciprocity for concealed carry holders, etc.).

In its current form, HR 297 will treat gun owners even worse than
terrorists, giving the FBI a mountain of private information on
law-abiding Americans like me.

How is it that, despite all the criticism over the Bush
administration's attempts to obtain personal information on suspected
terrorists without a court order, this bill would allow the FBI to
obtain massive amounts of information on ME -- information which
dwarfs any warrantless searches (or wiretaps) that have been
conducted by the Bush Administration on known or suspected terrorists
operating in the country.

And all of this personal information would be obtained by the FBI
with no warrant or judicial or Congressional oversight whatsoever!!!

How is it that spying on terrorists is bad, but spying on honest gun
owners is good?

Again, I hope that you will oppose HR 297. Gun Owners of America
will continue to keep me informed on the progress of this bill.
Thank you.

Sincerely,
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