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I think CV-19 is going to boil down to 'nutrition'...

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The really-sick people will need the anticytokine regimens and so on, and there may be a role for the antiviral meds they are testing, but already it seems like 'nutritional' stuff like Vitamin C, Vitamin D, ZInc, Omega-3's and so on may help reduce vulnerability, and glycorrhyzin ('medical licorice') has established efficacy to similar Coronaviruses (like SARS), and here we now have someone citing glutathione as a potential factor. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl ... c00288.pdf

Yet we are told that nothing matters but dutifully wearing 'masks' at all times... :roll: https://web.archive.org/web/20170512002 ... ng-review/
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In my opinion, I believe you're correct.
What, exactly, is the roll of zinc?
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i take a daily complete multivitamin with lutein and lycopene and an additional pill of 2000iu D3 vitamin supplement as subscribed by my doctor everyday. will this help boost my immune system against covid -19? I don't see where it will hurt!
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how about some brand names?

i'm using kirkland (costco) brand calcium citrate with mangesium, zinc, and D3, with some extra D3 to keep the levels up . . .

IDK, i'm still just as cranky as ever...

what brands and consumer names contain the secret formulas mentioned above?
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As I understand it, zinc is a specific inhibitor for the RNA polymerase enzyme that goes along with the coronavirus, however it does not inhibit and may even enhance human RNA polymerase. Drugs like hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin, doxycycline, and quercetin I have a related role in that they are all zinc ionophores which means they help zinc to enter the cells more readily.
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Doc; I have had this thought now, for Several months. I take Vitamin D3 , C and eat Sardines several times a Week.
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As soon as this stuff happened I ordered a bunch of black elderberry extract. I take it daily along with C,D, Cal/Mag/Boron and other vitamins and minerals.
As for sardines that just might help keep others away :D
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Then last night I see this story which goes completely against the advice that the so-called experts have been giving which is to avoid steroid use with COVID-19. I have used inhaled steroids for several patients with hesitation, but found it they did seem to work. But knowing that the experts said that it would make Covid worse made me hesitate to use inhaled steroids more widely. I just can’t believe how far some people go to try to make this country fail in order to undermine the current president.

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AJMD429 wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:42 am Then last night I see this story which goes completely against the advice that the so-called experts have been giving which is to avoid steroid use with COVID-19. I have used inhaled steroids for several patients with hesitation, but found it they did seem to work. But knowing that the experts said that it would make Covid worse made me hesitate to use inhaled steroids more widely. I just can’t believe how far some people go to try to make this country fail in order to undermine the current president.

https://youtu.be/eDSDdwN2Xcg
Doc, is the Symbicort that I'm on (and it's greatly reduced my COPD issues) the same sort of inhaled steroid that this YouTube doc is talking about?
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Blaine wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 11:53 am
AJMD429 wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:42 am Then last night I see this story which goes completely against the advice that the so-called experts have been giving which is to avoid steroid use with COVID-19. I have used inhaled steroids for several patients with hesitation, but found it they did seem to work. But knowing that the experts said that it would make Covid worse made me hesitate to use inhaled steroids more widely. I just can’t believe how far some people go to try to make this country fail in order to undermine the current president.

https://youtu.be/eDSDdwN2Xcg
Doc, is the Symbicort that I'm on (and it's greatly reduced my COPD issues) the same sort of inhaled steroid that this YouTube doc is talking about?
Pretty much, yes.
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Cinnamon toast.

Cinnamon toast is the cure for the Corona Virus.

Pass it on......

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stretch wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:18 pmCinnamon toast.
Cinnamon toast is the cure for the Corona Virus.
Pass it on......
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How about your professional opion on this Doc:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl ... Qa8PD9b7sg
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ole pizen slinger wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2020 1:27 pm How about your professional opion on this Doc:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl ... Qa8PD9b7sg
There have been several articles on this recently, and it is intriguing. Haven't used it yet, because with the zinc (females 25-60 mg daily and males with prostates twice that due to prostate absorbing most of it, decreasing to half that dose after a month), Vitamins D (to blood level of 65-70 which is mid-reference-range, or empirically 10,000 units daily for a month then 5,000 units daily after that) and Vitamin C (3,000 - 6,000 mg daily), and 6-10 grams of Omega-3's daily, VERY few people get symptoms even with heavy exposure and/or known positive swabs. If they get symptoms, I add hydroxychloroquine (or doxycycline or azithromycin or quercetin) and steroid inhalers. For the very few who actually get short of breath, I add 'low-dose' naltrexone (titrating to 4-5 mg daily), and do that EARLY with symptoms of dyspnea.

Doing all that, I've had zero patients get worse due to CV-19, so I've not had to try any additional treatments.

NEVER take meds without discussing it with YOUR personal physician, who should be seeing you naked every year [ :mrgreen: ] and doing blood tests yearly or more often, and keeping you up to date with your preventative and other medical care. If you don't have such a physician, you are sailing in the dark without instruments. Get a relationship established with a real doctor. If you can't find a decent one "in network" do what you would do if your car broke and the dealer sucked - go to an independent person. Even if you pay for ALL your 'primary care' out-of-pocket, you will spend far less on 'health care' there than you do on snack food, haircuts, and booze. We only charge our Direct-Pay patients $60/month plus $20/visit, and PLENTY of doctors around the nation are doing that. SCREW your 'insurance company' and their 'provider network'......see a REAL doctor. We do exist.
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