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Going to the clinic this morning.

#1 Post by piller » Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:29 am

My allergies have been making me cough all week. Post Nasal Drip. Woke up soaked in sweat this morning and stuff I am coughing up turned green overnight. Most likely just a minor Upper Respiratory Infection, but with all that is happening now with the CoViD-19 mess, I probably should go and get it checked out. Normally I would take guaifenesin and dextromethorphan and drink lots of hot liquids. 3 days and back to all is well. Probably not the PC option right now.
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#2 Post by crs » Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:57 am

Good luck with it.
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#3 Post by marlinman93 » Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:49 am

Doctor offices here are telling patients not to come in if they have any symptoms that might look like corona virus. I asked my doctor's PA how someone gets treatment for non corona illness if they have to stay home? She told me that they give people a phone contact to the health authority and they come to the person's house to test them first. Then once the results return they can schedule with their regular doctor to be taken care of.
Sounds like it wont be easy for those with respiratory non corona to get helped here.
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#4 Post by Pitchy » Fri Mar 20, 2020 10:16 am

Hope all works out piller.
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#5 Post by shiloh505 » Fri Mar 20, 2020 10:27 am

Good luck, don't delay.

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#6 Post by piller » Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:13 am

Just got back. Bacterial respiratory infection. Z-Pak and cough syrup. At least the diagnosis is what I thought and not something worse. Take the medicine, drink lots of hot liquids, and don't cough on anyone.

Thanks for the support. It is truly appreciated.
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#7 Post by claybob86 » Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:56 pm

Good. :)
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#8 Post by Griff » Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:16 pm

Most EXCELLENT piller! I'm still sloggin' thru whatever this stuff I have is... can't see the Dr. Waiting on call back from VA. Have another week's worth of cigars... til then I'll be fine!
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#9 Post by Jay Bird » Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:44 pm

Yea....we all have to make our health a top priority in times of peril or we are worthless to the ones around us who depend on us.

Be thankful you have the knowledge to care for yourself.

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#10 Post by jeepnik » Fri Mar 20, 2020 3:53 pm

Hmm a few days ago there was 0.000000195% of the population infected with Covid. I suspect by now it might almost be 0.0000001951%. Consider this when worrying about having Covid 19.
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#11 Post by Blaine » Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:07 pm

Add some organic, non-filtered apple cider vinegar to the lots of water I know you're drinking....Great stuff to kill germs and keep your gut healthy.
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#12 Post by GunnyMack » Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:19 pm

Glad to hear you aren't now infected! Chartreuse snot for me is always sinus or upper respiratory infection.

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#13 Post by AJMD429 » Fri Mar 20, 2020 6:32 pm

I've had an exhausting week:

Normal work - 75 hr weeks
Coronavirus stuff - tons of extra calls, panic, and requests to 'diagnose by telephone'
Business stuff - landlord emailed me Tuesday evening and said I had to 'vacate the premises by the end of the week' due to owing back-rent (I've not taken a paycheck for months, and after paying payroll, taxes, insurance, and utilities, pay what we can, but my Nurse Practitioner was stricken ill a few months ago, and no matter how many patients I see, I can't even meet overhead alone).

So I have a few hours to catch up on sleep before back to the office all weekend to review test results, formulate treatment plans (not just corona but all the normal stuff), and all the other non-reimbursed stuff we do (due to the government/insurance cartel, the only thing doctors get paid for is 'face-to-face' encounters, so that's why they make you come in for 'every little thing').

In between catch-up sleep, I'll try to post more details as I've researched and found them, but in the interim, there are a few things I think ARE legitimate and safe....(as always, "contact your OWN healthcare provider, who is familiar with YOUR particular situation, before acting on any 'internet advice'....")

Elderberry ELIXIR (alcohol extract of berry/stem) - likely helps CV, but better for prophylaxis and 'mild' symptoms - can have negative effect if severe.

Licorice (medical) - proven to inhibit SARS form of CV a few years ago, but can cause dangerous elevation of BP, so needs used with monitoring. May be best once known-exposure happens or with symptoms known from CV that are mild.

Zinc - best absorbed as lozenge, but if the lozenge tastes nasty, you may absorb it in the cheaper 'oral' form well enough, or not even be deficient. A good zinc level is VITAL for the hydroxycholroquine to work, if you are prescribed that. (Don't take hydroxychloroquine without EKG baseline and medical advice).

Vitamin D - D3 is over the counter, and few people would be harmed with a daily dose of 5,000 units daily for a month or so.

Vitamin C - also over the counter, and few people (ask YOUR physician) would be harmed with a daily dose of a couple thousand milligrams.

Many other considerations out there, but these are the ones I see in the medical literature that seem most appropriate for prevention and/or mild enough symptoms that you don't even need seen.

If diagnosed, I'd ask your physician about these things:

1. hydroxychloroquine (it really has demonstrated anti-CV activity with the SARS strain of CV)
2. low-dose naltrexone (to inhibit the inflammatory mediators that screw up lung function)
3. nebulized iodine like SSKI (used in the 'old days' as an anti-viral for viral pneumonia)

I don't know the perspective of the 'intensivists' and pulmonologists now, other than they are likely frantically trying to plug holes in the dyke. When in panic-mode, we stick with what is already-known, 'safe', and easy, so that may be to stick with stuff that 'usually works a little bit' instead of stuff that 'might work a lot but nobody is sure'. I get that, but some are willing to do BOTH. It never hurts to ask....

Actually - - - - - that is all I really know to post. I do have 'journal references' which I can post, if you want to share them with your physicians. However, either a) they are interested and already reading the same stuff I am, and trying to figure the best thing to help patients, or b) they are 'employees', and just "doing their job" and following some 'safe' protocol approved by the legal team and insurance companies....in the latter case, nothing you suggest or show them would change anything. :|
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#14 Post by mark » Fri Mar 20, 2020 10:18 pm

All the best piller.

The hay fever down here is horrendous.

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#15 Post by piller » Sat Mar 21, 2020 1:14 am

SSKI is still available, but no one carries it. No sales of it so no shelf space for it. Mix it with liquid guaifenesin such as plain robitussin and it is the best mucus solvent ever found. It used to be available that way as a commercial product until the FDA wanted money for proof of effectiveness and allowed to stay on the market. Cost for that was too much and it died. When mixed 1 to 2 SSKI to guaifenesin it will break up congestion like an industrial wood chipper on a bunch of half inch twigs. Be sure to have something to spit in handy as the mucus is coming out at ludicrous speed. It might go plaid. (Wink to Spaceballs there)
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#16 Post by OldWin » Sat Mar 21, 2020 4:40 am

Glad you ain't got "The 19" buddy.
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#17 Post by GunnyMack » Sat Mar 21, 2020 5:17 am

What do we have on this thing- a quisinart?!

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#18 Post by Ysabel Kid » Mon Mar 23, 2020 5:58 pm

Pollen is already pretty darn thick down here. Car is yellow. Street is yellow. Everything outside is yellow. Hard not to rub one's eyes given all this.

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#19 Post by Grizz » Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:03 pm

what is SSKI?

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#20 Post by OldWin » Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:15 pm

Sorry you're not feeling well.
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#21 Post by Blaine » Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:31 pm

Grizz wrote:
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what is SSKI?
Potassium iodide can be conveniently prepared as a saturated solution, abbreviated SSKI.
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#22 Post by AJMD429 » Sat Mar 28, 2020 2:05 pm

Ysabel Kid wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 5:58 pm
Pollen is already pretty darn thick down here. Car is yellow. Street is yellow. Everything outside is yellow....
Duhhh....it's the CHINESE virus.....!
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#23 Post by piller » Sat Mar 28, 2020 2:29 pm

Blaine wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:31 pm
Grizz wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:03 pm
what is SSKI?
Potassium iodide can be conveniently prepared as a saturated solution, abbreviated SSKI.
Not too hard to make at home if you have the ingredients. The ingredients are legal to purchase from chemical supply companies. The trick is to cool it very slowly and do not disturb it as it cools. When at room temperature it is pretty stable, but until then it will crystalize out of solution if bumped or if dust gets into the solution. It has one funny use that most of us will hopefully never need. It pulls radiation out of mammals. The Iodine is more reactive to radiation than is human tissue. In the event of nuclear war, it can save your life from the fallout if you do not happen to be caught in the blast.

If you get the recipe wrong and accidentally make potassium tri-iodide, it makes for a fun low power pressure sensitive explosive. There were some people in the dorm wondering why so many firecrackers were going off for a while and no evidence was found.
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#24 Post by 6pt-sika » Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:54 pm

Blaine wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:07 pm
Add some organic, non-filtered apple cider vinegar to the lots of water I know you're drinking....Great stuff to kill germs and keep your gut healthy.
I drink “ Braggs Apple Cider Vinegar with Mutha” before every meal already . Supposedly it helps my diabetic condition . I also read recently as you say it helps with possible throat germs .
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#25 Post by Bill in Oregon » Sun Mar 29, 2020 8:22 am

Piller, bro, did we cook up a batch or two in our dorm room? :lol: :lol: :lol:

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#26 Post by piller » Sun Mar 29, 2020 11:15 am

Fun days.
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#27 Post by Ysabel Kid » Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:54 pm

AJMD429 wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 2:05 pm
Ysabel Kid wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 5:58 pm
Pollen is already pretty darn thick down here. Car is yellow. Street is yellow. Everything outside is yellow....
Duhhh....it's the CHINESE virus.....!
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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