Picatinny rails and optics for Marlin 1894?

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Picatinny rails and optics for Marlin 1894?

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I've had to admit that my eyesight is changing...gettin' old ain't for sissies.

Seeking experienced based opinions on the use of Skinner, Weaver rail, red dot and scopes for an 1894 lever action in .357. (Remlin) Would prefer something that is fairly "drop in" and wouldn't require a lot of modification.

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I have a Marlin 1894 and I have looked at options but I have put anything on other than a tang peep. You have a lot of options for the Marlins and they are just about all bolt on. I'm sure other members will be along shortly with their experiences.
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The Skinner sights are great. If you just want a good peep sight, you can't go wrong with them. Marlin is simple to put a picatinny rail on. That way you can put on a scope with Weaver rings and set it for yourself with ease. If you are planning to use a scope, just put the rail on and you can easily fit whatever you want to it. Yes, Weaver rings fit a Picatinny rail perfectly and stay put on it. Weaver bases are slightly different from Picatinny, but not so much that the Weaver rings give the slightest trouble on a Picatinny base. I put Skinner sights on my Guide Gun, and they work perfectly for it. I rarely shoot longer than 100 yards with it, and I carry the smaller diameter insert with me wrapped in kleenex and placed in a ZipLoc sandwich bag for those times I need a more precision shot. I can get it out and use it if needed. At about 100 yards it is not needed unless target shooting at the range. The larger aperture is good enough for my eyes. When it sort of disappears all the way around, I am lined up. It is good enough for about 3 to 4 inches in a hurry at 100 yards. It lines up faster than any normal sight ever did for me.
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I've tried lots of things and if you look on the forum you can probably find much stuff.

I've used the XS Scout rail and the Skinner, and several other less expensive 'generic' setups, as you can see.

Here's some of the threads and they usually link to others:

This introduces three different setups - two are on Marlin 1894's:

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=46640#p583183

Then here is commentary I posted as I went through the 'finding a good aperture sight setup' issue myself:

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I'm in the same boat. With the diabetes, some days I can see fine and others its very difficult to see the target.

XS mounts are great. I have three Marlins set up as Scouts with Leupold scopes. I'm done with dot and holo scopes. I had my Sig MPX w/ a Vortex Spitfire out at a range in FL a couple years ago and couldn't hit snot at 50 yds in the bright sun. Took it off and went open sights and was spot on. I've been putting Leupold scopes on my ARs and other working guns. I like the 30 mm tubes, brighter and a better field of view.

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I should add that I've simplified things with my 1894CST, by just using a Weaver Rail I got off Amazon for $8.00...

Here are pics:
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They make longer rails that would work for longer optical scopes; they stick out an inch or so forward of the receiver. Easy-peasy.
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Thanks for all for the replies thus far. This is good information.
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/264588216842

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https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1477189486/

Dunno how long the pictures or links will be valid - top one is off EBay, and not where I actually got mine, bit I thought I'd post them so you could see a better photo than of mine on the gun. Bottom is off MidwayUSA site.

One with more grooves.....
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https://www.amazon.com/NcStar-Marlin-Ac ... B001COP1PC

All sorts of lengths are available, and some are flatter than others. The "Weaver" ones are usually going to just have a few grooves cut for the horizontal screws of the scope mount/ring to rest in, and ones called "Picatinny" will have a groove every centimeter or whatever the 'standard' spacing is. Either will work, and it is easy enough to use a chainsaw file or similar file to cut another screw-clearance groove if needed.
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As a diabetic with iffy eyes and a love of leverguns my favorite setup may be more expensive but it has never failed me. I use EGW bases, Warne rings and leupold 2-7 power scopes. I have other setups but this is my favorite. It doesn’t matter how quickly you can get the shot off if ya can’t see what your shooting at! Does it change the handiness of the rifle? yes it does, but at this point I need magnification. All a bolt on affair and simple to do. My opinion only. Good luck with whatever you choose.
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The picatinny rail has made it where you can scope ANY gun that has a either a dovetail or two screw holes drilled centrally on the receiver or the barrel. A few months ago I bought a dozen rails of various lengths and some flat on the bottom, some rounded. These rails I bought were in a gunshops junk box of which I paid $5 for all of them

I don't care about the screw holes as I can drill my own to match the holes on the rifle. No alternations as to originality of the gun.

Here I used the screw holes from this 1898 Krag's rear sight.

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Here I used the dovetail on this Model 14 Remington.

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The modern 1894's like yours all are D&T for a scope rail, so those AJMD429 posted will all easily bolt on and ready for optics in minutes. As for optics it's really a choice of what you do with the gun. Red Dots are nice, and work well for hunting, but not as good as a simple scope with crosshairs for very accurate shooting. A 3x9 scope makes a great all around choice, and tons of them available in many price ranges to suit any budget.
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I put a weaver rail and a Burris Fastfire on my 1894CS.

It's perfect for me.

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Best bases I have found are the Warne M864/864M 2-piece. They are trim, solid and don’t spoil the lines of the receiver. With a compact scope mounted, the 1894c I have them on looks like a well-proportioned miniature 336T... just as it ought to.

I find that the 1-piece solid bases change the aesthetic of the carbine too much for my taste, and I’ve tried to love two scout mounts but can’t because the balance is all off for me. Plus, the Warnes work great with pretty much any weaver or rail-mount / crossbar type of ring.

I would definitely steer you towards a compact scope, though, a full-size ruins the balance as well as the proportions. I ended up putting a Leupold M8 Compact 4x built in ‘83 on my scoped 1894, which itself was an ‘80. I like to keep it all consistent. Represents a slice of time and a place. Like, I wouldn’t put a NV unit built in 2016 on my ‘37 Borsigwalde K98, even if it did get captured by the Russians and shellacked. I just wouldn’t do it wrong like that. Respect.

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Thank you all for your recommendations thus far. Have pretty much nixed the red dot idea, since I am in Florida and the sun can be very bright. Am considering Skinner and Ranger Point Precision for peep styled sight...don't know if I need a scope just yet. Time will tell. Friendly, polite group here that actually responds to the question...unusual on other boards I've frequented.
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It's a pretty good bunch, but some of them can be pretty snotty if you don't agree with their point of view. Have fun with your '94!

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2ndovc wrote:
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It's a pretty good bunch, but some of them can be pretty snotty if you don't agree with their point of view.
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