A pair of Winchester Model 12s

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A pair of Winchester Model 12s

#1 Post by 2ndovc » Sat Dec 28, 2019 10:05 pm

Sorting through my dad's stuff after the break in a couple of weeks ago. Came across my grandfather's Model 12 and made me sit and reflect a bit. The one in the top of the picture is the one my dad gave when I was about twelve. He had started taking me rabbit hunting a year or two earlier to the family farm but I just wasn't connecting with the old single shot .410 ga. The first time out with the Winchester was like magic and filled my bag to the limit! The top one is mine and the other was my grandfathers. Both 20 gage and full choke. I'd never noticed the difference in the stocks before but have a suspicion that mine was replaced. Not that I care or would ever give them up. Lots of good memories go along with these two. Gonna have to go shooting soon. :D
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Re: A pair of Winchester Model 12s

#2 Post by Old Savage » Sat Dec 28, 2019 10:15 pm

Classics! The stock and fore end seem to be a match on the top. This was their basic gun.
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#3 Post by 2ndovc » Sat Dec 28, 2019 10:31 pm

It was. My grandfather was all about utility. He was very serious about things that were working tools. His carry piece was a surplus 1911A1, hunting rifles were sporterized 03's and Arisakas. Most he ever spent on himself was on his Winchesters. Model 70s, a 63 and the Model 12s. He left my grandmother a very wealthy lady, just part of that generation. He was too old by the time WWII broke out, but I'd bet he would have done some real Whoop --z! He was not a man to be trifled with.

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Re: A pair of Winchester Model 12s

#4 Post by AJMD429 » Sat Dec 28, 2019 10:48 pm

One of the reasons you likely did so well first day out with the 20 gauge was all the precision shooting you had had to do when you were using the 410 bore...!

Like so many things, to someone at a garage-sale or auction, those are "just a couple old guns", yet they embody precious memories. Good to see things like that appreciated; be sure you make memories with some young'un yourself and hand them down another generation.

One of the things that even 'primitive' cultures often do well is pass along ceremonial or meaningful objects; sometimes just a pebble from a certain place might have a 'spirit' or memory it brings to life for the one who is its keeper.
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#5 Post by M. M. Wright » Sat Dec 28, 2019 11:13 pm

Let's see, we have a several model 12s around here. A 12, two 16s and a 20. The 12 has been refinished and the 16s belonged to my father and father-in-law. The 20 belonged to one of my sons, it has a vent rib, Cutt's Compensator and a couple of changeable chokes. I am a great fan of the model 12 and it is my primary tool for repelling boarders as it's magazine holds 6 rounds. Faster than an automatic too.
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#6 Post by Pitchy » Sun Dec 29, 2019 6:11 am

Very nice guns jb and memories. 8)
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Re: A pair of Winchester Model 12s

#7 Post by TraderVic » Sun Dec 29, 2019 7:59 am

I have the same Model 12, 20 gauge as you (the top gun). It was my father's, and before him, my grandfather's gun.
Serial number says it was made in 1916, 25" factory barrel, full choke. I had the choke opened up a bit for grouse hunting about 30 years ago.
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#8 Post by Bill in Oregon » Sun Dec 29, 2019 11:17 am

My first real shotgun after carrying the old Iver Johnson .410 single shot was a used-hard Model 12 in 16 gauge. I loved that thing. Choke was modified.
When you start out with the fast, smooth Model 12 action, you are spoiled for life.
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#9 Post by 2ndovc » Sun Dec 29, 2019 6:01 pm

Thanks Guys! They are hard to beat, I have a couple of other shotguns, a '97, 870 and a Remington Model 11R but they are all short barreled Riot type guns. The Model 12 has always been my go to for small game. Like you guys have said; it's fast and light. Points like a laser and has never failed to feed or eject a shell. I've had a couple of autos but I just don't shoot them as well as the pump actions.

Still sorting through the old man's stuff. He's going to have me keep the family guns and a couple others. We will probably be putting up quite a bit of stuff for sale when he gets home in the spring. Mostly Enfields and Nagants. Going to keep the Springfields, 1911s, Webleys and the Broomhandles. 8)

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#10 Post by Bill in Oregon » Sun Dec 29, 2019 6:27 pm

"Enfields and Nagants," he says. ... 8)

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Re: A pair of Winchester Model 12s

#11 Post by 2ndovc » Sun Dec 29, 2019 6:55 pm

Bill in Oregon wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2019 6:27 pm
"Enfields and Nagants," he says. ... 8)
:lol: :lol:

We bought this stuff back when they were going for $50-$100 a piece. Wish we'd kept the crate of SVT-40s!! :D
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Re: A pair of Winchester Model 12s

#12 Post by 3leggedturtle » Sat Jan 04, 2020 12:00 am

Very nice. a Model 12 in 20 gauge us on my hoping for, short list.
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Re: A pair of Winchester Model 12s

#13 Post by Griff » Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:07 am

I bought a mdl 12 riot gun earlier this year, but it's seen some hard service, extracts well, but at higher speeds doesn't eject so well. It's at the gun doc now... hopefully he has some magic to fix the ol gal!

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Re: A pair of Winchester Model 12s

#14 Post by geobru » Sun Jan 05, 2020 4:04 am

My first Model 12 was a 16 gauge with a polychoke on it. I gave that to my younger brother when my dad gave me his 16 gauge with a matted rib barrel. I picked up a 12 gauge in my college years that kept my freezer full of pheasants for many years. Then, a few years ago, I bought a 20 gauge with a 4 digit serial number. I took it off the rack and took the barrel off and the bolt fell into the receiver. The owner asked me if I wanted a project gun and I said it depends on the price. I almost dislocated my arm reaching for my wallet when he said, how about $150? A $15 part solved the issue with the bolt and its now a designated grouse killer!

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Re: A pair of Winchester Model 12s

#15 Post by Scrumbag » Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:56 am

Lovely guns and lovely memories!

Got a 12g Model 12 heavy duck myself.

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