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#1 Post by 6pt-sika » Sat Oct 19, 2019 4:57 pm

Did a phone bid on an auction today and got quite lucky "I think" !

Bought a Parker VH 28 gauge 26" F&F on an 0 frame . For a 28 gauge this was an early one and made I think before the 00 frame was prevalent .
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#2 Post by 6pt-sika » Sat Oct 19, 2019 4:59 pm

Also was able to get a Parker DH 12 gauge built on a 3 frame with 32 inch barrels .
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#3 Post by 6pt-sika » Sat Oct 19, 2019 5:25 pm

The little 28 was made in 1904 if I’m not mistaken the first Parker 28’s appeared in 1899 or 1900 . I haven’t been able to ascertain when the 00 frames started appearing but I suspect it may have been after 1904 .
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#4 Post by GunnyMack » Sat Oct 19, 2019 7:46 pm

Ok you SUCK :lol: WELL DONE!! I'm very happy for you! Also green with envy!
Pleas get to shooting it and give us a report!
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#5 Post by 6pt-sika » Sat Oct 19, 2019 8:47 pm

GunnyMack wrote:
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Ok you SUCK :lol: WELL DONE!! I'm very happy for you! Also green with envy!
Pleas get to shooting it and give us a report!
Since I’ve got someone now to watch my pop some during the day I’ve been spending time at the shop . I suspect I’ll take one of the MEC 9000 28’s to the shop and load two flat’s with 9’s and two flat’s with 8’s . Might even load four or five boxes with 7 1/2’s in case I can go preserve pheasant shooting !
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#6 Post by Rusty » Sun Oct 20, 2019 1:07 am

Congratulations! I'mm a really big fan of the 28 ga. My son keeps trying to tell me I should stick to the 20 ga but there's something about a 28 that just calls me. I only have one and it's an H&R Handi but it seems to fill a niche just perfectly. For time when the .410 isn't enough and a 20 ga is too much the 28 is just right.
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#7 Post by gamekeeper » Sun Oct 20, 2019 4:08 am

6pt-sika I'm going to stop looking at your posts......................turning green doesn't suit me....... :mrgreen:

Congratulations all the same. :D
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#8 Post by GunnyMack » Sun Oct 20, 2019 4:55 am

Had to come for a double take, looking at the pics on a bigger screen it sure looks like that 28 saw use , honest wear and tear, nice to see the screws aren't buggered up, some case color left- you did very well!
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#9 Post by OldWin » Sun Oct 20, 2019 5:47 am

Holy smokes! Those are beautiful. I've always said that before I die, I would have one really nice shotgun.
I probably better start thinking about it. :D
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#10 Post by Pitchy » Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:08 am

Awesome, congrats. 8) 8)
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Re: Finally !

#11 Post by Pete44ru » Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:42 am

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Well done - nice 28ga Parkers are hard to come by today @ a reasonable price !

FWIW (Wikipedia):

There is some evidence that French and British gunmakers were producing 28-gauges as early as 1875.

Remington offered a 28-gauge single-shot in 1893, but Parker put the 28 on the map in the U.S. when it began chambering its side-by-side doubles for the gauge starting around 1900.


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#12 Post by 6pt-sika » Sun Oct 20, 2019 1:11 pm

I need to search around a bit and see if I can get my hands on four or five boxes of the Brenneke 28 gauge slugs ! There was a group in Russia making versions of the Lyman 525 sabot slug for all gauges including the 28 gauge . I’ve already gotten their molds for the 10 and 16 . But I don’t see them offering it for the 28 any longer . I found them on EBay by the way .
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#13 Post by 3leggedturtle » Sun Oct 20, 2019 2:13 pm

Really nice 6pt!.... as an aside, i bought a 20 lee loader hand tool at a gunshow oast month. After i got back home i git to looking at it and its a 28 gauge. Almost makes up fir missing the .410 loader. Todd/3leg
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#14 Post by GunnyMack » Mon Oct 21, 2019 5:22 am

Does BP have their thug slug in 28? I know I got some of their small game slugs for the 28... hmm have to look in the catalog!
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#15 Post by 6pt-sika » Mon Oct 21, 2019 6:29 am

GunnyMack wrote:
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Does BP have their thug slug in 28? I know I got some of their small game slugs for the 28... hmm have to look in the catalog!
Dunno about that one . I sent an email to the Rooskies to see if I can still get a 28 gauge version of the Lyman sabot slug . Already have that style slug mold for the 10 , 12 , 16 and 20 .
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#16 Post by GunnyMack » Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:15 am

Just looked at Ballistic Products catalog- only slug for 28 they list is the light game slug. Wad/carrier and a single round ball, 193 gr .
I recently had a guy ask if I had or knew of slugs for 28. Told him about BP LGS but not a clue where to find a real slug.
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#17 Post by gcs » Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:21 am

Gorgeous! Love those classic doubles

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#18 Post by 6pt-sika » Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:54 am

GunnyMack wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:15 am
Just looked at Ballistic Products catalog- only slug for 28 they list is the light game slug. Wad/carrier and a single round ball, 193 gr .
I recently had a guy ask if I had or knew of slugs for 28. Told him about BP LGS but not a clue where to find a real slug.
Brenneke makes loaded ammunition for the 28 and I remember Jerrys had them in stock , however Jerrys is now belly up !


I'll most likely find somebody that carries them and get 5-10 boxes . Still it would be nice if I could get a mold and cast my own . Before I wrote this I got an email back from the Rooskies saying they had none of the 28's left and no intentions of making any more .
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#19 Post by 6pt-sika » Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:08 pm

About 25-30 years ago I had a rather nice Parker VH 16 gauge on a 1 frame with 30" F&F barrels and an English straight grip stock . Always wished I hadn't sold that gun hmmmmmm :wink:
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#20 Post by GunnyMack » Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:15 am

Just for kicks I looked at Brenneke's website and sure enough they do list a 28 slug!
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Just have to find someone that carries or is willing to order them!
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#21 Post by 6pt-sika » Sat Oct 26, 2019 11:19 pm

Looked and Ebay a few minutes ago and noticed the mold for the 28 gauge version of the Lyman sabot slug is for sale again !

Think I'll just have to get one of those Molds !

Still wanna find 5-10 boxes of the Brenneke 28 gauge slug ammo .

And of course I'll have to work up a buckshot 28 gauge load with #2 and or #3 buckshot 8)
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#22 Post by GunnyMack » Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:59 am

I was just snooping around the BP website, they list the 28 breneke, ammo-shop by gauge, page 2.
Oh nope out of stock!
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#23 Post by 6pt-sika » Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:46 pm

I ordered the mold off Egretbay so hopefully I’ll have it before Xmas . I also figured out powder charges and buckshot payloads in the 3/4-7/8 ounce area with #1 , #2 and #3 buckshot . I was gonna buy a used 600 JR for loading buck and slugs but I’ve got a friends 28 gauge Grabber here and I think I can giter done with that or atleast I’ll try first . Wish I had the 600 JR 28 back that I sold to a friend for $75 :roll:
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#24 Post by GunnyMack » Mon Oct 28, 2019 5:06 am

I'm curious to your load data, (as we discussed previously) as I have a friend looking for buckshot loads too.
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#25 Post by 6pt-sika » Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:47 am

GunnyMack wrote:
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I'm curious to your load data, (as we discussed previously) as I have a friend looking for buckshot loads too.
When I previously said “worked out” , so far that’s just calculating powder charges and numbers of pellets for 3/4 or 7/8 ounce loads . As to whether they work in the wads I have is yet to be seen . That will most likely be a couple weeks . It seems every time I wanna do something it’s a long drawn out ordeal before I get left alone and have enough time .
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#26 Post by GunnyMack » Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:10 am

I've tried OO, - that's what I have on hand, only get 5 pieces in a Claybuster 3/4 oz wad. I do have some of the BP brush wads but didnt see if they will hold more.
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#27 Post by 6pt-sika » Mon Oct 28, 2019 3:53 pm

GunnyMack wrote:
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I've tried OO, - that's what I have on hand, only get 5 pieces in a Claybuster 3/4 oz wad. I do have some of the BP brush wads but didnt see if they will hold more.
I’ve never seen anything larger than #1 buck loaded in the 20 gauge so I kinda figured that’s a good size to stop at .
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#28 Post by GunnyMack » Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:42 pm

I was kinda thinking about trying T or TT. Big enough to do some damage but small enough to get more of it in.
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#29 Post by 6pt-sika » Mon Oct 28, 2019 5:15 pm

GunnyMack wrote:
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I was kinda thinking about trying T or TT. Big enough to do some damage but small enough to get more of it in.
With 3/4 to 7/8 ounce being my weight range I wanna see if I can fit that much of #1 , #2 and #3 buck in the CB knockoff of the WAA28 wad and a little buffer .
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#30 Post by 6pt-sika » Tue Oct 29, 2019 12:23 pm

I loaded some buckshot today for the 28 . The first I did with the shot cup intact and I got no where close to the pellet count I was looking in #1 , 2 or 3 . But after trying them with the petals removed they worked a lot better . Used SR7625 , SR4756 , Blue Dot , Herco , Universal Clays and W572 . I’ll elaborate more later .
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#31 Post by 6pt-sika » Tue Oct 29, 2019 8:33 pm

Well let’s see I removed the petals from the Claybuster WAA28 HS wads and use Remington STS hulls . In all loads with petals removed I loaded 15 of the #3 or 12 of the #2 or 8 of the #1 buck . I also loaded two of each with each of the following powders SR7625-14 grains , Blue Dot 18.5 grains , SR4756 16 grains , Herco 14 grains , Universal Clays 14.5 grains and finally W572 16 grains . These will most likely be patterned in my front yard . Oh yeah I didn’t add any buffer with these , after trying in the little Parker if any look good I may try again with a touch of buffer added . Got verification from the mold maker that my slug mold is on the way from Russia . Hopefully it’ll be here by thanksgiving :roll:
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#32 Post by Rusty » Wed Oct 30, 2019 5:05 pm

I've got 20 ga loads in #4 buck I don't know why they would be that hard to find. Maybe it's a deep south thing.

I also remember buying 2 boxes of the 28 ga Berneke slugs when I bought my NEF just to try them out. They seem to shoot very well. A very small 3 shot group.
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#33 Post by 6pt-sika » Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:10 pm

Rusty wrote:
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I've got 20 ga loads in #4 buck I don't know why they would be that hard to find. Maybe it's a deep south thing.

I also remember buying 2 boxes of the 28 ga Berneke slugs when I bought my NEF just to try them out. They seem to shoot very well. A very small 3 shot group.
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I’ve never seen factory loaded 28 buckshot . And the only 20 I’ve ever seen was #1 (euro) #2 or #3 . As to the Brenneke slugs according to the sales guy the yearly ration of Brenneke 28 slugs is not a huge amount and yes it’s a niche market but when I started looking all our distributors were out or closed up ! According to the sales guy the yearly shipment just arrived at their wharehouse .
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#34 Post by 6pt-sika » Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:11 pm

I’ve been wanting a Parker 28 for a lot of years ! The people at the auction house called today to tell me these two are shipping out today and should be here Monday via Fredex ! Lord please don’t let uhm get hurt in transit ! If they get there early enough I might go shoot skeet Monday before I go home :wink:
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#35 Post by Dave James » Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:00 am

Never knew Parker built the 28ga, fine looking bird shooter, bet it swings like a dream, the 12ga just screams DUCKGUN!!!

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#36 Post by 6pt-sika » Fri Nov 08, 2019 6:23 pm

Dave James wrote:
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Never knew Parker built the 28ga, fine looking bird shooter, bet it swings like a dream, the 12ga just screams DUCKGUN!!!

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Parker’s first 28’s were made in 1899/1900 . All on the 0 frame like the one I have coming . A few years later they brought out the 00 frame 28’s . I hope eventually to have an 00 as well .
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#37 Post by 6pt-sika » Mon Nov 11, 2019 4:51 pm

The VH 28 and DH 12 3 frame showed up today !
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#38 Post by 6pt-sika » Mon Nov 11, 2019 4:52 pm

The DH 12 on a 3 frame .
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#39 Post by 6pt-sika » Mon Nov 11, 2019 4:58 pm

Shot the little 28 out in the front yard this afternoon . Twice with birdshot handloads and then about thirty times with buckshot handloads . Seems to like SR7625 , W572 and Universal Clays with #1 , #2 and #3 buck .
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#40 Post by 6pt-sika » Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:01 pm

I’ve been tracking my Rooskie 28 gauge slug mold and I see it arrived at a regional USPS facility today ! Perhaps I’ll have it by Thursday !
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