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Well ain't this some Stuff!

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Made it out to the range this morning for the first time in months and this happens!
Eight rounds in something wasn't right. I opened the cylinder and tried to extract the moon clip and the whole thing just about came out.

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Factory ammo too. Guess it's going back to S&W. :twisted:

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N Frame, right? :shock: :o
Sort of the reason I take it real easy on my 625. :shock:
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It's got about 150 rounds through it and all factory ammo. This particular batch was Armscor. Really disappointed.

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If it is like the double action revolvers I've taken apart, I think there's just a pin that keeps that all in place, and it probably slipped out. Not anything inherently bad about the gun or design though.
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Did you try to screw the cylinder back to the crane?
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The whole assembly moves back and forth. Nothing that I can see is missing or unscrewed.

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I do believe there should be a little cylinder stop stud at the bottom rear corner of the cylinder window that stops the rearward movement of the cylinder.
Here is a pic of my 25-5 you an see it there.
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J Miller wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:59 pm I do believe there should be a little cylinder stop stud at the bottom rear corner of the cylinder window that stops the rearward movement of the cylinder.
Here is a pic of my 25-5 you an see it there.
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I happened to be close to my safe when reading this so I grabbed my 686. Indeed Joe is correct. There is a small raised piece on the frame that stops the cylinder.
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It's there, just different than the old style. Apparently it's not thick enough to prevent the issue. I have other N frames, current mfg, that this doesn't happen with even with heavy loads.

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This is a factory issue that needs to go back for repair, I've already contacted S&W and will be receiving a repair / return statement.

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Aw, just build it up with a little TIG welding and then file it to shape.... :D
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Jason,

That new design looks like it might be a spring loaded cyl stop. Perhaps a thorough cleaning might cure the problem.

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Sorry about the broken smith.....

How about telling us about your beretta 81 on the .32 associates page ?

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Will do Ray.

I just got an email back from S&W. They want me to send it back. Hopefully I’ll have it back before too long.

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I may be missing something here but how would ammo cause this?
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I don't think that it did. I just mentioned it that they weren't heavy or improperly loaded handloads. That's all.

Some of the guys around here are quick to jump on the operator error bandwagon.

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