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The .380

#1 Post by JimT » Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:55 am

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Yesterday was the 105th anniversary of the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand, killed with a lowly .380
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Re: The .380

#2 Post by Tycer » Sat Jun 29, 2019 12:30 pm

Thanks Jim. Learn something every day.
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Re: The .380

#3 Post by Bill in Oregon » Sat Jun 29, 2019 12:39 pm

I bet it was an oddly sad day for John Moses Browning.

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Re: The .380

#4 Post by Machado » Sat Jun 29, 2019 12:47 pm

I was under the misapprehension that the Duke was killed by a 7,65mm bullet fired from an FN Browning model of 1910.

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Re: The .380

#5 Post by JimT » Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:27 pm

FN Model 1910 pistol chambered for the .380 ACP (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archduke_ ... of_Austria)

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Re: The .380

#6 Post by gamekeeper » Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:28 pm

Machado wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2019 12:47 pm
I was under the misapprehension that the Duke was killed by a 7,65mm bullet fired from an FN Browning model of 1910.
It was a FN m1910 serial no 19074 but in 380 ACP. You beat me to it Jim... :D
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Re: The .380

#7 Post by JimT » Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:32 pm

gamekeeper wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:28 pm
Machado wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2019 12:47 pm
I was under the misapprehension that the Duke was killed by a 7,65mm bullet fired from an FN Browning model of 1910.
It was a FN m1910 serial no 19074 but in 380 ACP. You beat me to it Jim... :D
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An FN M1910, serial number 19074, chambered in .380 ACP was the handgun used by Gavrilo Princip to assassinate Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria in Sarajevo on June 28, 1914, the act that precipitated the First World War. Numerous previous sources erroneously cited the FN Model 1900 in .32 calibre as being the weapon Princip used. This has led to confusion over the calibre of the pistol actually used.

Paul Doumer, President of France, was assassinated by Russian emigre Paul Gorguloff on May 6, 1932 with a Model 1910. The pistol is now in the Musée des Collections Historiques de la Préfecture de Police. A Model 1910 was also used to assassinate Huey Long, governor of Louisiana, on September 5, 1935.
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_Model_1910)

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Re: The .380

#8 Post by Grizz » Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:28 pm

I think the 380 was a submachinegun round too, but I've never seen one. My 380 with truncated cone and flat meplat puts rounds into the same water jug as my 9mm gold dots... seems OK to me.

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#9 Post by Blaine » Sat Jun 29, 2019 6:34 pm

Being the lazy bubba that I am, my little tiny LCP leaves with me every time I go out, as opposed to not holstering up.... :oops:
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Re: The .380

#10 Post by ollogger » Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:03 pm

After some penetration test at various objects the LCP in 380 most assuredly is a very deadly weapon in a compact easy
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Re: The .380

#11 Post by JimT » Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:52 pm

My next Concealed Carry pistol ... only change will be a 4" barrel.

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It is a .380 ACP

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Re: The .380

#12 Post by Grizz » Sat Jun 29, 2019 8:35 pm

That's a Beaut. Did you make it? I mean, make it be a 380?

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Re: The .380

#13 Post by JimT » Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:56 pm

Grizz wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2019 8:35 pm
That's a Beaut. Did you make it? I mean, make it be a 380?
No sir. Cimmarron (Uberti) 1862 Pocket Conversion .. if/when I get one I will shorten the barrel to 4".

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Re: The .380

#14 Post by OldWin » Sun Jun 30, 2019 8:23 am

JimT wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:52 pm
My next Concealed Carry pistol ... only change will be a 4" barrel.

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It is a .380 ACP
Now that is the coolest .380 I've ever seen!
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Re: The .380

#15 Post by jcw » Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:24 pm

BlaineG wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2019 6:34 pm
Being the lazy bubba that I am, my little tiny LCP leaves with me every time I go out, as opposed to not holstering up.... :oops:
Yeah. Me too.

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#16 Post by jeepnik » Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:33 pm

Grizz wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:28 pm
I think the 380 was a submachinegun round too, but I've never seen one. My 380 with truncated cone and flat meplat puts rounds into the same water jug as my 9mm gold dots... seems OK to me.
A fair number of subguns have used the .380. I have actually fired a MAC 11. You couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with it past 20 feet, but it sure would keep someone's head down.
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#17 Post by M. M. Wright » Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:54 pm

Me too Blaine. And Jim, I have a Colt 2nd gen 1862 Police that is still unfired which handles and points so well that I could imagine it converted to .380 and having it's barrel shortened. No, too many projects now.
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Re: The .380

#18 Post by jnyork » Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:57 pm

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Re: The .380

#19 Post by Rusty » Sun Jun 30, 2019 7:47 pm

jeepnik wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:33 pm
Grizz wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:28 pm
I think the 380 was a submachinegun round too, but I've never seen one. My 380 with truncated cone and flat meplat puts rounds into the same water jug as my 9mm gold dots... seems OK to me.
A fair number of subguns have used the .380. I have actually fired a MAC 11. You couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with it past 20 feet, but it sure would keep someone's head down.
The guy that invented them said they were for assassinating someone in a phone booth when they were standing inside it with you.
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#20 Post by piller » Sun Jun 30, 2019 8:33 pm

I would need to look it up, but I seem to remember either Bart or Skeeter Skelton mentioning the .380 and it being able to penetrate well in 2x4 lumber. What I recall is that it penetrated better than .38 Special. That is just memory, and it could be wrong.
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Re: The .380

#21 Post by Grizz » Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:46 pm

The guy that invented them said they were for assassinating someone in a phone booth when they were standing inside it with you.
it seems, watching t.v. who-done-its, that the 380 has been supplanted by the 22lr as the assassination round...

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