New BATF Regs on Inline Muzzleloaders

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New BATF Regs on Inline Muzzleloaders

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BATF has classified inline muzzleloaders that utilize a metallic cartridge primer as being a "firearm" under GCA-68, to which all encumbent transfer laws apply.

https://www.atf.gov/file/83981/download


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Haw. Now watch the scramble to convert these to fire with a percussion cap. Never had much use for inlines myself, but understand their appeal in some states with multiple seasons.
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Thank God....I feel SO much safer...!!!!

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That’s to prevent them from being converted to fully semiautomatic fire.
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Chuck 100 yd wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 2:43 pm
That’s to prevent them from being converted to fully semiautomatic fire.
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The dates mentioned in this download are in 1997......

A lot of shotgun primered muzzleloaders have been sold since then......

As an experiment, after I read this original post, I went to cabelas (website) and placed a t/c impact in the shopping cart but removed it before final ordering step.

Did the same at sportsman's guide and muzzle-loaders......no problems.
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Ray wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 5:17 pm
The dates mentioned in this download are in 1997......

A lot of shotgun primered muzzleloaders have been sold since then......

As an experiment, after I read this original post, I went to cabelas (website) and placed a t/c impact in the shopping cart but removed it before final ordering step.

Did the same at sportsman's guide and muzzle-loaders......no problems.
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Linkie no workie, "page not found".
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ATF = Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms...........

That's not a department -- that's a weekend in Maine!!!!!

( Maybe a weekday in some towns... ) :wink:

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I bought one of the Remington 700 Ultimate Muzzleloaders about a month or so ago and had to do the paperwork . https://www.remington.com/rifles/muzzle ... zzleloader
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6pt-sika wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 9:54 pm
I bought one of the Remington 700 Ultimate Muzzleloaders about a month or so ago and had to do the paperwork . https://www.remington.com/rifles/muzzle ... zzleloader
The first generation of these used a .25 acp case for priming......

The ones sold new now use a purpose built case that is externally similar to a .45 acp case so that if the vent cone is removed from the breechplug, you would have a functioning smoothbore with a very short barrel that would (theoretically at least) fire a loaded .45 acp.

Again, muzzle-loaders.com allowed me to place one ultimate 700 muzzleloader in cart with no "f.f.l. required" flag but I obviously did not go through with the $999 + shipping purchase.

Williams gunsite's used guns department out of michigan will not sale a T/C encore M.L. without an f.f.l. due to the frame being a firearm and would not sell me a remington with the old .25 acp. priming without an f.f.l. due to the possibility (however didfficult or unlikely) of firing a loaded round through it.

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