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Gang, I go in for a disk replacement/fusion at L 4-5 in the morning. The laminectomy two years ago hasn't worked and I risk crippling damage to the nerves that run my legs without a serious intervention.
My neurosurgeon in El Paso is highly regarded, and uses this really swell Israeli robot to help guide the work. If something goes sideways, I want you all to know I have valued my time here and the many conversations we have had over the years. I wish you all health, happiness, the love of family and friends -- and really tight groups. 8)

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Wishing you a full and speedy recovery Bill, I'm sure your surgeon together with his robot will get you through it..... :wink:
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Wishing you good fortune and a speedy recovery, Bill.
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Bill .. you have my prayers that Papa God will be with you .. that He will divinely guide the surgery .. and that He help you with a speedy recovery. I pray for His help for you in all areas in Jesus' Name.
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All the good thoughts I can give Sir. For you and your surgical team. Let us know how things turn out as you can.
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Prayers up. Been there done that. Follow the docs instructions to the letter.
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Bill, here is to a textbook procedure and a fast recovery!
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Best wishes Bill. I'm sure it will work.
I just hope the robot is better than the ones in skyward!
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Prayers up, and good luck as well.

Do your Physical Therapy, too....!!!!!

Don't hesitate to take pain meds - they will help you function better and improve faster.

If you have or get any neuropathy be sure to either take an 'activated' B-complex supplement like Thorne's MethylGuard Plus, or get your MTHFR alleles (both 677 and 1298) tested. Cheaper to just take the activated supplement, because it isn't much pricer than a good multivitamin, and if you don't have a methylation issue, it won't hurt to take it even if you don't "need" it.
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Thanks so much, gang. Means a lot to go into this with friends rooting for a fella.
Doc, will note your advice. Would those alleles show up one way or another in a 23andMe DNA test?
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Best wishes, Bill! Hoping for a speedy recovery!!!

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Bill, hope all goes well. Todd
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Prayers up. Yes, take the pain meds. Especially for the first 24 to 48 hours. Healing is critical during that time, and it is faster and more complete if the healing progresses without pain during that time. Later, you and the Doctor can work out how much pain is acceptable so that you can function without being too affected by the medicines. The extremes of being at a 10 on the 1 to 10 scale or being at a 0 on the scale are neither one good while healing. About a 1 to 3 on the scale is where healing is fastest. It is also where it is easiest to transition to lower strength meds as healing progresses.

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Back pain is among the worst. I do hope it goes well for you, Bill.

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All my best from Texas Bill. Up and away :D
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You will be in our thoughts & prayers, Bill - here's to a successful operation & a speedy recovery ! . :)

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Praying for ya Bill, you`ll be cranking that blower before ya know it.
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Prayers Up .
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Gracias all. Piller, pain med management strategy carefully noted. 8)
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Well, I have so far survived and the food is actually good, but where in the heck is that IPA I ordered? Guess the hydrocodone will have to do.
P.S. It's a good thing they waited until I was out cold before they put in that Foley catheter or there would have been a fight. :lol:
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The funs just beginning. Wait till they remove it.

Seriously glad you’re back amongst us.

Prayers for a speedy recovery.
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Bill in Oregon wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 7:02 pm It's a good thing they waited until I was out cold before they put in that Foley catheter or there would have been a fight. :lol:

Why I ask for a Texas catheter...….. :roll:

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ooops - pilot error :oops:
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Ouch. Just the thought of a catheter hurts.
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Heh, well wouldn't you know it but my lovely nurse Sara is checking my IVs when the tech comes in to pull the catheter. Deep breath on three he says, and out it comes. "I always wondered -- does that hurt?" Sara asks. I try to sputter a reply ... :shock:
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Heck my last one was removed by a very young female. I think she was still in training. Maybe it’s some sort of right of passage for both nurse and patient.
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Glad Your on the mend, anything with the lower back is hard to live with. Hope it is a total success.
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Thanks friend. I hope it works out well, too, as I drew a cow elk tag for early December and plan to hunt with heavy handloads in a Bisley in .45 Colt.

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Congrats Bill! Good to know you are through the surgery.
Hope your 45 connects with a nice big fat cow- I'll be over for a steak!! :D
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Bill wrote;"Thanks friend. I hope it works out well, too, as I drew a cow elk tag for early December and plan to hunt with heavy handloads in a Bisley in .45 Colt." Awesome Bill. I bought My .45lc Bisley 7 1/2" when they first came out I think in '85 . they are Great Shooters. I'll be watching for the report. :D .
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.45, mine is a stainless model with 5 1/2-inch barrel. Should have it by the time I am steady enough to use it. Have the Lee 452-255 RF for practice, and will order the 300 from Accurate. Tag is in NM unit 34 -- essentially my back yard.
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Just realized what a great joy it is to talk about handgun hunting while lying in a hospital bed. Gives me hope. 8)
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As to that catheter removal the staff are being lazy. When removing a catheter the nurse should withdraw as much saline fluid as possible with the syringe then take a clean gauze pad and using bandage scissors cut the one way valve from the catheter. Then holding the opened lumen of the catheter (only has saline in it no pee, as this is the lumen to blow up the tip for retention in the bladder) slowly withdraw catheter and since there is no valve no pressure and no inflation of the tip. Easy peasey and NO pain whatsoever. I learned this as a young Nurse experienced it when I had bladder cancer. Arrrgh.
Glad you are doing well Bill. Pain management like mentioned above.
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Ford, you need to be teaching, bro!
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Nobody listens to me. I found that catheter lesson to have much more meaning to me than the “girls.”
I did teach my physicians assistant at my oncologist and she kept telling me how much better people liked my way. DUH.
But I am just a dumb nurse.
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TMI up above!

Good luck to Bill.

I like it when they say they will "Count to three..." -- and then they do X (whatever) on 2!

Guess that does surprise you though! :o

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fordwannabe wrote: Tue May 07, 2019 1:00 pm
Nobody listens to me.

But I am just a dumb nurse.

My Mom was a nurse for over 40 years; so, I KNOW that Doctors couldn't make it w/o nurses.

Just like an army can't function w/o NCO's.

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Each and every person at levels below the CEO is necessary. Do you want the Doctor or the Nurse to mop the floor? I don't. Everyone needs to do their job, and not have to do someone else's job.

Glad things are going well. A little bit of discomfort to remind you to let things heal is acceptable. Physical therapy may cause the pain level to temporarily go up, but they know what they are doing. Follow their advice.
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The nurses during my op were fantastic and we had many a giggle.
It was clear they feel unappreciated by some but I thought they are brilliant.
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Guys, got to sleep in my own bed last night and have a cup of real coffee this morning. Pain mostly under control. Life is good, and thanks for the positive thoughts and the prayers. Makes me think the Good Lord isn't as mad at me as He has a right to be ...

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Well done. :D now you have all summer to heal up for bird season :D :D
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Keep the momentum moving forward.
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