#457191 ... The Continuing Saga
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#457191 ... The Continuing Saga
I got several hundred cast yesterday. Checking the hardness after 24 hours I found they are right at 15 BHN.
Since these are basically a .458" diameter bullet I size them to .452" for use in the sixgun. I do this in several steps using the Lee push through sizing dies. I begin with a .457" die and end up with the .452". The bullets are pushed through nose first to avoid distorting the nose.
Finished sizing to .452"
The bullets are then run through the RCBS lubrisizer to lube them. I use a .452" die in the lubrisizer.
Finished and ready to load
I crimp into the top grease groove. This give more space in the boiler room and most importantly, keeps them from fitting a Colt or Colt size cylinder. I had my handloads pressure tested at Hodgdon's ... thanks to John Linebaugh .. and they averaged 29,400 CUP.
Now I have several hundred to load!
Since these are basically a .458" diameter bullet I size them to .452" for use in the sixgun. I do this in several steps using the Lee push through sizing dies. I begin with a .457" die and end up with the .452". The bullets are pushed through nose first to avoid distorting the nose.
Finished sizing to .452"
The bullets are then run through the RCBS lubrisizer to lube them. I use a .452" die in the lubrisizer.
Finished and ready to load
I crimp into the top grease groove. This give more space in the boiler room and most importantly, keeps them from fitting a Colt or Colt size cylinder. I had my handloads pressure tested at Hodgdon's ... thanks to John Linebaugh .. and they averaged 29,400 CUP.
Now I have several hundred to load!
Re: #457191 ... The Continuing Saga
They look...formidable.
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Re: #457191 ... The Continuing Saga
They are intended for the standard Ruger Blackhawk .45 Colt ... that's why pressures are kept down. Velocity average for my loads when we did the testing was 1188 fps. They are excellent long range loads and exhibit quite a bit of punch at 400 + yards. Not a 454 by any means and not intended to be. But plenty good for what I have done with them.
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Jim,
Have you ever tried them in a rifle? I'd love to try some from my Marlin 1894 Cowboy. I've used the BB TC cast bullet over a charge pf 296 before, bit those bullets look 100% better.
Do you know any sources of them already cast?
Joe
Have you ever tried them in a rifle? I'd love to try some from my Marlin 1894 Cowboy. I've used the BB TC cast bullet over a charge pf 296 before, bit those bullets look 100% better.
Do you know any sources of them already cast?
Joe
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Joe .. no I never tried them in a rifle. And I have not kept up on bullet sources. Sorry. Someone on here should know who makes things like this though.
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Here is the good news.....
http://westernbullet.com/ly4gr7.html
The bad news is a less than one out of five b.b.b. rating and horrible reviews re. delivery and customer service on the various gun boards/forums.
And this......
https://www.montanabulletworks.com/prod ... 2gr-fn-bb/
with much better reviews......
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Ray,
Thanks for the links. I bookmarked them.
It's been a long time since I priced cast bullets; those prices went from to .
Joe
Thanks for the links. I bookmarked them.
It's been a long time since I priced cast bullets; those prices went from to .
Joe
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JimT I'd sure like to hear you elaborate a bit on the 400 yard shooting.
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Yeah, they sure are proud of them......you'd think by the prices that bullet casting is a hot and toxic and time consuming endeavor
but if you don't need a .45-70 bullet swaged down to colt size you can save some shekels and order these.....
https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/pr ... ctId/10688
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Re: #457191 ... The Continuing Saga
Jim, those are just beautiful boolits, and they surely must be more than capable of doing anything asked of them in North America.
Was this the bullet Keith was loading over black that blew the loading gate off a Colt SAA and cut his finger? I don't have a copy of "Sixguns" anymore ...
Was this the bullet Keith was loading over black that blew the loading gate off a Colt SAA and cut his finger? I don't have a copy of "Sixguns" anymore ...
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Ray,Ray wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 7:25 amYeah, they sure are proud of them......you'd think by the prices that bullet casting is a hot and toxic and time consuming endeavor
but if you don't need a .45-70 bullet swaged down to colt size you can save some shekels and order these.....
https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/pr ... ctId/10688
Yeah, those are are a bit more affordable. They are also the ones I've been using. I haven't tried them at long ranges yet, but eventually I will.
Joe
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