1892 Winchester tang bolts

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1892 Winchester tang bolts

#1 Post by fordwannabe » Sat Apr 13, 2019 11:38 am

Oh enlighten ones a buddy of mine has a 1892 circa 1897. When he purchased it it had a screw of sort sort that was NOT Winchester and a square nut as a tang screw. He bought a screw from gunparts Corp supposedly fits 1892 and 1894. Nope won’t fit in the threads. Any idea if the 92 and the 94 should use the same tang screw? Thanks
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Re: 1892 Winchester tang bolts

#2 Post by Pete44ru » Sat Apr 13, 2019 2:44 pm

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AFAIK, the tang screws are not identical, but if you message fellow forum member Steve ( www.stevesgunz.com ) he can tell you for sure.

OTOH, did the tang screw threads in the lower tang get messed up when the stovebolt was installed ?

If so, you might be able to just chase the threads & use the tang screw you ordered.

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Re: 1892 Winchester tang bolts

#3 Post by earlmck » Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:42 pm

Should use the same screw. 12-28 by about 1.8 or so.
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#4 Post by fordwannabe » Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:54 pm

Thanks guys. He is gonna bring it over this week and we are gonna try a couple out of my guns. With your responses now I wonder what’s up?
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Re: 1892 Winchester tang bolts

#5 Post by Sixgun » Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:31 pm

earlmck wrote:
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Should use the same screw. 12-28 by about 1.8 or so.
Earl hit it right Tommy......I keep a couple of dozen laying around....even have a tap and die......if the threads are buggered up most hardware stores carry that size. ----6
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Re: 1892 Winchester tang bolts

#6 Post by GunnyMack » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:16 am

Most gun screws are bastard sizes. 6-48, 1/4-22(Mauser guard screws), 12-28, yer not going to find these at local hardware stores.

In this situation I'm wondering if the threads were drilled out to allow the nut & bolt to be used...? Yes it's a good idea to keep old/odd screws on hand. Numrich is your friend!
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Re: 1892 Winchester tang bolts

#7 Post by fordwannabe » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:30 am

In this case the hole in the tang is smaller than the screw they sent. It looks like the screw is approximately.020 bigger than the hole. 😏
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Re: 1892 Winchester tang bolts

#8 Post by GunnyMack » Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:24 am

Hey FW, does the screw fit from the top but the threads do not?
According to a tap/ drill chart a 12-28 should have a hole of .1812 or a #14 drill for optimum threading.
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Re: 1892 Winchester tang bolts

#9 Post by Sixgun » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:31 am

Another thing is to try screwing it in from underneath....sometimes people only bugger the threads up half to 3/4 way down.
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Re: 1892 Winchester tang bolts

#10 Post by M. M. Wright » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:42 pm

12-28 IS a standard size and quite common. Taps and dies are generally available at your local ACE hardware or similar. I've seen them at Lowes. Most gun screws are from the extra fine series and only common in guns and instruments.
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Re: 1892 Winchester tang bolts

#11 Post by fordwannabe » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:44 pm

Doesn’t fit too or bottom.
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Re: 1892 Winchester tang bolts

#12 Post by Sixgun » Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:12 pm

Tom..it comes down to this...get a 12-28 tap....and a die ...you will need it again in the future........and run it through...if it looks like there's enough meat to grab the screw, your in business. If not, your going to have to go up to a preferable 1/4 x 28 and probably will have to make the screw. The common 1/4 x 20 will be too coarse..it will work but eehhh, I don't like coarse screws on guns except for the wood.

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Re: 1892 Winchester tang bolts

#13 Post by earlmck » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:44 pm

Sounds to me like they sent you the wrong screw. My local NAPA store has been real good about telling me what I have when I bring in a mystery screw. You might give yours a try with both the old screw and the replacement to see what you are working with.

Ford, why not pull a tang screw out of one of your rifles and see if it fits your buddy's?
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Re: 1892 Winchester tang bolts

#14 Post by GunnyMack » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:42 am

I too think you have the wrong screw.
Every gun guy should spend the money for a thread pitch gauge.
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This will not do metric but they are available.
Just try different pitches until you find the right one.
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