1849 Pocket Navy "Magnum" conversion?

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1849 Pocket Navy "Magnum" conversion?

#1 Post by Tactical Lever » Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:34 pm

Hankering after a small revolver, and wanted a 1849 for a while now. But the power is a bit on the low side. I see that the 1862 is billed as a "pocket model" in .36, but I hear that the frames are bigger?


I was also wondering about conversions, as sometimes I just want to play around without a big clean up after.


I think a 62 with a 38 Spl conversion would be pretty cool if they are small, or maybe a 49 with something like a 32 H&R conversion. Has anyone tried it? Is there enough metal? Does cylinder length play into it?


On a side note, I've always wanted a Bearcat too, and just like pistols scaled to the smaller rounds. Saw one converted to .327 Federal on the Gunblast site
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Re: 1849 Pocket Navy "Magnum" conversion?

#2 Post by AJMD429 » Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:49 pm

Wow, I would think a bearcat would be too small to safely handle the high pressures in a 327 Federal....maybe 32-20 'vintage-level' loads though..... 8)
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Re: 1849 Pocket Navy "Magnum" conversion?

#3 Post by Hawkeye2 » Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:59 pm

The 62 Pocket models have the same size frame as the 49s but use a rebated cylinder like a 60 Army to achieve the .36 caliber. They are way too small for any .38 conversion however Cimaron is susposed to be bringing one on the market chambered for .380 ACP which in my opinion is pushing the envelope. The 49 and the 62 pocket can be converted to .32 S&W (not .32 S&W long) with a conversion cylinder but the 62 would need the barel sleeved to .32. These guns aren't strong enough to handle much more than the .32 S&W or about 20 grains of 3f max if you can get that much in the cylinder.

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Re: 1849 Pocket Navy "Magnum" conversion?

#4 Post by Sixgun » Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:36 am

Why the 32 mag? The 32 Long would be perfect.......this is an original '62 Colt Police next to a Ruger Single Six .22.---6

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Re: 1849 Pocket Navy "Magnum" conversion?

#5 Post by Tactical Lever » Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:39 am

Sixgun wrote:
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Why the 32 mag? The 32 Long would be perfect.......this is an original '62 Colt Police next to a Ruger Single Six .22.---6

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Just looking for more punch in a old style BP looking gun. The arbitrary bench mark is enough punch to put the lights out of a big bull beef with a shot in the forehead. I know a lot of them have been put away by the .22 LR out of a rifle. And looking for a good boost over .22 and maybe a couple times the penetration potential.
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Re: 1849 Pocket Navy "Magnum" conversion?

#6 Post by .45colt » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:10 am

You need a Ruger Blackhawk 32-20, they are small and heavy but built like a tank . You could re- load to kill T Rex with one.

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Re: 1849 Pocket Navy "Magnum" conversion?

#7 Post by Sixgun » Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:05 am

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Just looking for more punch in a old style BP looking gun. The arbitrary bench mark is enough punch to put the lights out of a big bull beef with a shot in the forehead. I know a lot of them have been put away by the .22 LR out of a rifle. And looking for a good boost over .22 and maybe a couple times the penetration potential.
Tactical lever........I hear ya on the "beef guns". My inlaws are custom beef butchers and over the decades we have tried about everything imaginable on these critters, from Black angus to monsterous crazy bulls of every variation. Also, as you know, it's about "knocking them out" and then "working with the knife". And ya know what works best? It's what my father in law used starting sometime in the twenties.....the .22 L.R. on "standard size" and the .22 mag. on the big boys when the mag. became available....

Something about the penetration of the little .22...to beat it you have to go to big bores with power using hard cast bullets. We've killed a few with heavy loaded 44 Spl's and .357's....they work great...but....theres just no need for all that noise in a little room....---6
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Re: 1849 Pocket Navy "Magnum" conversion?

#8 Post by Tactical Lever » Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:28 pm

Well I think I'm limited to a 62 for maximum punch without a lot of custom work for a 49, and possibly pushing it too hard. Kind of wanted a cartridge gun as I don't fool around with BP much because of clean up.

Kind of switched focus (for now), and will probably pick up a Uberti Stallion in .38. It's pretty neat little package.
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Re: 1849 Pocket Navy "Magnum" conversion?

#9 Post by Ray Newman » Fri Apr 19, 2019 3:08 pm

As seen on page 55, Spring 2019 issue of the Black Powder Cartridge News, Cimarron Firearms advertises/announces a 1862 Colt Pocket Navy Conversion, 6" barrel, 5 shot, .380 ACP.

However, nothing about it on the Cimarron home page....
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Re: 1849 Pocket Navy "Magnum" conversion?

#10 Post by Hawkeye2 » Sat Apr 20, 2019 4:45 pm

They announced it last year and have missed one or two delivery times. Allegedly it had some (safety?) problems that had to be dressed one time. If and when, no time soon, you see it it won't be cheap.

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Re: 1849 Pocket Navy "Magnum" conversion?

#11 Post by M. M. Wright » Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:48 pm

Some loadings of the 380 ACP are nothing to sneeze at. Last fall I had to dispatch a young buck hung in a fence. He was still quite active but the coyotes had eaten a hole out of his rectum and one ham. Used my 51 Remington and a 90 grain XTP. Put the bullet about halfway between the eye and ear, (profile) and he dropped straight down. I suspect the 62 would have had the same results with a 36 round ball and a chamber full of fffg. Sweetest little pistol I own. Mine's a 2nd gen Colt, NIB. I need to fix that.
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