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#1 Post by Ray » Sun Mar 31, 2019 1:15 am

You get a chance watch The Highwaymen with kevin costner as Frank Hamer and woody harrelson as Maney Gault.

If they don't win some awards for either filmmaking or dramatic performances then the award system is busted beyond repair.

They got everything right down to the japanese privet cut and used to make the roadside blind.

Costner has a Remington 8 but with a factory magazine. Hamer's was said to have an extended, 15 or 20 shot magazine.

I'll have to watch it again but the actor portraying Prentis Oakley looks to be using either a 1905 or 1907 winchester self-loading rifle with an extended magazine. He was said to actually be using a stock Remington 8 in .35.

The only thing I can see technically historically incorrect is the urban mowed lawns. Back then only the rich had mowed lawns. The poor groomed their yards and gardens by either hoeing, pulling, or raking any grasses or weeds, leaving bare soil......Or they neglected it altogether and let it grow into a jungle like harper lee's old radley place.
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#2 Post by BlaineG » Sun Mar 31, 2019 2:34 am

I glimpsed the tickler this evening....I'll be sure to catch it later on.
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#3 Post by Old No7 » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:54 am

Ray wrote:
Sun Mar 31, 2019 1:15 am
You get a chance watch The Highwaymen with kevin costner as Frank Hamer and woody harrelson as Maney Gault.
Thanks for the heads up, I've just added it to my list.

I liked the subtitle used at one point...

"The Outlaws Made Headlines -- The Lawmen Made History"

I'll have to watch it soon!

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#4 Post by piller » Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:28 am

Sounds good. I will look for it.
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#5 Post by JimT » Sun Mar 31, 2019 8:41 am

Watched it Friday night ... it is well done and tells the story from the lawman's point of view instead of glamorizing lawlessness. Most everything in the film seemed to be "period correct" .... the way the ladies dressed even got my daughter wanting to dress like that. I will watch it again for sure.

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#6 Post by marlinman93 » Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:09 am

It must be a great movie since CNN Entertainment panned it as sluggish, and predictable. Anything they don't like, I know I'll love!
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#7 Post by Grizz » Sun Mar 31, 2019 12:29 pm

marlinman93 wrote:
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It must be a great movie since CNN Entertainment panned it as sluggish, and predictable. Anything they don't like, I know I'll love!
I get that. They are a nearly infallible waypoint marking every putrid pile in front of us.

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#8 Post by jcw » Sun Mar 31, 2019 3:12 pm

Watched it last night. Outstanding film. They took the time to develop the characters. Film is about as accurate as they get. A lot of detail. If you know your history then you will like it. I have no doubt the reason that cnn panned it is because they're only into instant self gratification. These were slower times and the film reflected that.

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#9 Post by Rube Burrows » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:25 pm

I thought it to be an excellent movie. Usually the Bonnie and Clyde movies romanticize their story rather than show it for what it really was. I knew Costner was going to try to be as historically accurate as possible and I thought it was done quite well in this dept also.


Won't give any spoilers but that scene when Costner goes into the Gun Shop........me if I ever hit the lottery. :mrgreen:

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#10 Post by 33wcfshooter » Sun Mar 31, 2019 8:57 pm

Excellent movie one of the only movies made in the last few years that I can say I actually enjoyed. Finally gives Frank hamer and maney gault the credit they've deserved for years. They got old lucky replicated but I think it had hard rubber grips not pearl. Not to spoil it but in the gun shop when he's getting the guns together says about the Winchester 94 being he needed one gun that won't jam I had to smile.

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#11 Post by Ray » Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:33 am

I read some of the liberal elitist reviews of this film and here are a couple of their knuckleheaded points......

"The film is too long and it lacks dramatic pause and character introspection."

Does anybody else see an obvious contradiction in that last sentence ? Even if you shorten somewhat the expansive aerial second unit shots, adding character introspection and having the actor bare his/her soul into the lense, you cannot make it any shorter by doing that.

"Highwaymen is obviously and unashamedly MAGA esque"

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#12 Post by marlinman93 » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:31 am

Most of the liberal artsy fartsy reviewers are looking at movies much differently than we do. They want to see movies that address issues they consider important, rather than what we consider important. Their ideas of history are never the same as ours, and they'd much prefer Oliver Stone's twisted version, than the truth.
I personally don't want to see some skewed version of history, just because it makes a certain point. I want it to be accurate, even if it bores the heck out of the liberal critics.
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#13 Post by fordwannabe » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:38 am

Especially if it bores the heck out of liberal critics. There I fixed if for you Vall. No thanks needed :P
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#14 Post by BlaineG » Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:10 am

Great movie. I watched it last night. The best parts were Woody and Kevin flippin' each other "stuff". Too bad we can't turn a couple of real men like that loose on ANTIFA, BLM, and other various and assorted socialist scum.
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#15 Post by Woodtroll » Fri Apr 05, 2019 3:27 pm

Costner makes a good movie, but he is for more gun control and is on almost everyone's list of actors who are anti-gun. Google "Kevin Costner gun control" or something similar if you don't believe me. It's a real shame, because he has talent - for making movies.

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#16 Post by gamekeeper » Fri Apr 05, 2019 5:04 pm

Just watched it, really enjoyed the movie. :D
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#17 Post by Bill in Oregon » Fri Apr 05, 2019 5:35 pm

BLM? The Bureau of Land Management? God bless the men and women of the old-guard BLM and the U.S. Forest Service. Heroes in my book. The agencies have changed, but I still respect them.
As to Woody Harrelson, a vegan, he was once named one of PETA's "sexiest vegetarians," and he identifies as an anarchist when he isn't getting into assaults. His father was a convicted hit man who died in prison.

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#18 Post by Rusty » Fri Apr 05, 2019 7:52 pm

I guess I'll never get to see it. I canceled my Netflix subscription after they hired Obama. I did see an interview with Costner & Harrelson on Youtube about the movie. It seems both of the actors really got into the parts and did their own research into the facts. The death scene in the movie was filmed at the location of the actual event. They also said that the lawmen involved in the ambush didn't talk much about it after everything was done because they felt that the public would have a poor opinion of them for killing a woman.
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#19 Post by AJMD429 » Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:00 pm

Woodtroll wrote:
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Costner makes a good movie, but he is for more gun control and is on almost everyone's list of actors who are anti-gun. Google "Kevin Costner gun control" or something similar if you don't believe me. It's a real shame, because he has talent - for making movies. Just another hypocrite who makes money from movies about guns and shooting, but doesn't believe you or I should have those rights. Pi$$ on him from the top of a tall tree.
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#20 Post by hayabusa » Sat Apr 06, 2019 12:45 am

When he said BLM I figured he meant black lives matter. Of course I could be wrong.

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#21 Post by yooper2 » Sat Apr 06, 2019 6:19 am

gamekeeper wrote:
Fri Apr 05, 2019 5:04 pm
Just watched it, really enjoyed the movie. :D
It's a shame rangerider7 does not post anymore, I would have liked to hear his opinion on it, I believe he knew quite a lot of Texas Ranger history, especially Frank Hamer.

I would like to hear his take on it as well. I miss his posts of memorabilia and historic photos.

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#23 Post by BlaineG » Sat Apr 06, 2019 2:55 pm

Bill in Oregon wrote:
Fri Apr 05, 2019 5:35 pm
BLM? The Bureau of Land Management? God bless the men and women of the old-guard BLM and the U.S. Forest Service. Heroes in my book. The agencies have changed, but I still respect them.
As to Woody Harrelson, a vegan, he was once named one of PETA's "sexiest vegetarians," and he identifies as an anarchist when he isn't getting into assaults. His father was a convicted hit man who died in prison.
As to BLM, how in the HELL can you see ANTIFA and BLM written next to each other and conflate BLM with the Land Managament folks? :roll: :roll:
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#24 Post by FWiedner » Sun Apr 07, 2019 1:45 am

Just saw this movie on Netflix.

Pretty good. Meanders a bit, but it's not so slow as to be boring. Gotta remember these guys are hunting.

It's a thoughtful movie.

I liked it.

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#25 Post by Scrumbag » Wed Apr 10, 2019 3:28 pm

I liked it! Nice amounts of wood and blued steel. Liked the choice of 1917 Smiths' to go with the 1911s ;)

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#26 Post by Ysabel Kid » Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:30 pm

Watched it the first night it was on Netflix. I liked it, as did my wife. There is so little worth watching these days. Nice to see a movie that did not glorify the bad guys.
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#27 Post by rossim92 » Thu Apr 11, 2019 5:02 am

Rube Burrows wrote:
Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:25 pm
I thought it to be an excellent movie. Usually the Bonnie and Clyde movies romanticize their story rather than show it for what it really was. I knew Costner was going to try to be as historically accurate as possible and I thought it was done quite well in this dept also.


Won't give any spoilers but that scene when Costner goes into the Gun Shop........me if I ever hit the lottery. :mrgreen:
I watched it too. My sentiments exactly especially on the tommy gun. I have only shot one once about 40 years ago.
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#28 Post by wvfarrier » Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:39 am

i enjoyed it. Fantastic movie
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#29 Post by BlaineG » Fri Apr 12, 2019 12:05 pm

rossim92 wrote:
Thu Apr 11, 2019 5:02 am
Rube Burrows wrote:
Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:25 pm
I thought it to be an excellent movie. Usually the Bonnie and Clyde movies romanticize their story rather than show it for what it really was. I knew Costner was going to try to be as historically accurate as possible and I thought it was done quite well in this dept also.


Won't give any spoilers but that scene when Costner goes into the Gun Shop........me if I ever hit the lottery. :mrgreen:
I watched it too. My sentiments exactly especially on the tommy gun. I have only shot one once about 40 years ago.
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#30 Post by ChuteTheMall » Wed Apr 17, 2019 6:34 pm

Well worth watching, but like most true stories the ending was a predictable let-down.
Movie slowly coasted at the end. They could have added an epilogue.

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