Hay Trolleys

Welcome to the Leverguns.Com Forum. This is a high-class place so act respectable. We discuss most anything here ... politely.

Moderators: Hobie, AmBraCol

Forum rules
Welcome to the Leverguns.Com General Discussions Forum. This is a high-class place so act respectable. We discuss most anything here other than politics... politely.

Please post political post in the new Politics forum.
User avatar
Pitchy
Posting leader...
Posts: 11485
Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:15 am
Location: Minnesooooota

Hay Trolleys

Post by Pitchy »

I picked up a couple hay trolleys, a Leader brand cable model and a Ney that runs on a track.
I had the Leader on a cable but i made up a steel pipe to display it on.
A couple vids of them.
The Leader on cable and the new pipe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSuuDNcxy0A


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTQ_FDkI_Ls

The Ney on a track i made up in the house.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHaG6U9urfE

A good web sight about them.
https://haytrolleyheaven.com/hay-trolle ... -trolley/

A good video of them in action.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE8rHwD9eQ0&t=215s
Because I Can, and Have
-------------------------------------------------------------
USAF-72-76
God Bless America.
Disclaimer, not responsible for anyone copying or building anything i make.
Always consult an expert first.
User avatar
AJMD429
Posting leader...
Posts: 26223
Joined: Sun Sep 09, 2007 10:03 am
Location: Hoosierland
Contact:

Re: Hay Trolleys

Post by AJMD429 »

Cool mechanism....!

( ...are you sure John Browning didn't design it....? )
Doctors for Sensible Gun Laws
"first do no harm" - gun control LAWS lead to far more deaths than 'easy access' ever could.


Want REAL change? . . . . . "Boortz/Nugent in 2012 . . . ! "
User avatar
OldWin
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 3965
Joined: Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:38 pm
Location: Maine

Re: Hay Trolleys

Post by OldWin »

Pretty cool buddy. You must have your own private museum out there! :D
The oppressors are coming!
User avatar
Pitchy
Posting leader...
Posts: 11485
Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:15 am
Location: Minnesooooota

Re: Hay Trolleys

Post by Pitchy »

Thanks fellers, it must of been quite a improvement over pitching it by hand.
The cable one was set up between two tri-pods and hay was unloaded off a wagon and put into a pile. :)
Because I Can, and Have
-------------------------------------------------------------
USAF-72-76
God Bless America.
Disclaimer, not responsible for anyone copying or building anything i make.
Always consult an expert first.
User avatar
GunnyMack
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 4986
Joined: Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:57 am
Location: Not where I want to be!

Re: Hay Trolleys

Post by GunnyMack »

I have hay fever just thinking about loading the loft! Good stuff , the ingenuity of our forefathers is cool to see.
NUKE err I mean Boycott China- now and forever!!
Bill in Oregon
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 5550
Joined: Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:05 am
Location: Alamogordo, NM

Re: Hay Trolleys

Post by Bill in Oregon »

Had no idea these existed. Thanks, Pitch!
User avatar
Pitchy
Posting leader...
Posts: 11485
Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:15 am
Location: Minnesooooota

Re: Hay Trolleys

Post by Pitchy »

There`s probably lots of them around in old barns but getting up too the peak of the roof to get it isn`t for this guy.
There`s lots of cool vids on YouTube under hay trolleys.
If we were still putting up hay and was younger i`d put one up in the barn and use it proper.
I have 12 foot of track coming tomorrow i`ll probably put the Ney on if i`m up to it.
Because I Can, and Have
-------------------------------------------------------------
USAF-72-76
God Bless America.
Disclaimer, not responsible for anyone copying or building anything i make.
Always consult an expert first.
JerryB
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 5470
Joined: Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:23 pm
Location: Batesville,Arkansas

Re: Hay Trolleys

Post by JerryB »

I can remember them being used in some real high lofts. that was before the PTO driven elevators were used.
JerryB II Corinthians 3:17, Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

JOSHUA 24:15
piller
Posting leader...
Posts: 10172
Joined: Sat Sep 29, 2007 9:49 pm
Location: South of Dallas

Re: Hay Trolleys

Post by piller »

Even with those things, bucking hay was not easy.
D. Brian Casady
Quid Llatine Dictum Sit, Altum Viditur.
Advanced is being able to do the basics while your leg is on fire---Bill Jeans
Don't ever take a fence down until you know why it was put up---Robert Frost
Chuck 100 yd
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 6964
Joined: Tue Apr 03, 2007 8:52 pm
Location: Ridgefield WA. USA

Re: Hay Trolleys

Post by Chuck 100 yd »

One ford tractor dealership I worked in used a hay track as an overhead hoist track. I lifted some very heavy loads with that hoist.
It would handle a four cylinder Ford 7000 Diesel engine without problem. Eventually we broke a joist in the ceiling from lifting to much with it.
User avatar
Pitchy
Posting leader...
Posts: 11485
Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:15 am
Location: Minnesooooota

Re: Hay Trolleys

Post by Pitchy »

Thanks piller and Chuck, say hows that cross bow coming along?
Because I Can, and Have
-------------------------------------------------------------
USAF-72-76
God Bless America.
Disclaimer, not responsible for anyone copying or building anything i make.
Always consult an expert first.
User avatar
Old No7
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 2769
Joined: Tue Dec 18, 2007 9:06 pm
Location: Southern Maine

Re: Hay Trolleys

Post by Old No7 »

That's really neat Lenn, thanks for sharing.

It's interesting to see what our forefathers did to make their jobs easier. But then consider that someone had to conceive the idea, make a prototype, finalize the design, make castings and then make and sell it, ship it and install it -- and a whole lot of different efforts into getting one of those into a barn or out to a rural farm.

And that was way before we had Amazon -- or PITCHY to do it for us. :wink:

Old No7
"Freedom and the Second Amendment... One cannot exist without the other." © 2000 DTH
Alan in Vermont
Levergunner 1.0
Posts: 89
Joined: Thu Nov 28, 2013 8:09 pm
Location: NW Corner of Vermont

Re: Hay Trolleys

Post by Alan in Vermont »

There was one of those up in the barn on my grandparents barn in Shelburne, VT. No idea what brand it was but it sure looked like that Leader you have, right down to the little "flippers" that opened into/under the hay. That one was on a track. They used it, with loose hay, for some time when they first bought the farm in 1946. No idea when they stopped but it was when they bought the first mobile baler in the area, a New Holland 76 with a canvas belt pickup. I can just barely remember that baler, I was born in '49 so I was probably 5-6 years old. That was NOT a machine they ever thought highly of!
User avatar
Pitchy
Posting leader...
Posts: 11485
Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:15 am
Location: Minnesooooota

Re: Hay Trolleys

Post by Pitchy »

Thanks fellers, yep i think i read on Trolley heaven there was like 1,300 or more patents on the idea.
Cool story Alan, yep the hay baler must of been a welcome invention also but lots of problems for a time.
Got the new track today and we got it up. :)
Here`s a video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h48G0Iz0FRI
Because I Can, and Have
-------------------------------------------------------------
USAF-72-76
God Bless America.
Disclaimer, not responsible for anyone copying or building anything i make.
Always consult an expert first.
Chuck 100 yd
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 6964
Joined: Tue Apr 03, 2007 8:52 pm
Location: Ridgefield WA. USA

Re: Hay Trolleys

Post by Chuck 100 yd »

Pitchy wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:09 am
Thanks piller and Chuck, say hows that cross bow coming along?

Pitch , I am doing a little each day on the crossbow. I finished the side plates for the nut/ trigger today. Still have a little fitting to do there. I am in no rush and won’t be able to do anything tomorrow. I am taking my 2013 Ford F-150 in for a recall. It seems there is a sensor that an cause the transmission to shift into low unexpectedly possibly causing loss of control. A computer update is supposed to prevent that from happening. Supposed to be done while I wait.
User avatar
Pitchy
Posting leader...
Posts: 11485
Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:15 am
Location: Minnesooooota

Re: Hay Trolleys

Post by Pitchy »

Cool, hope ya post a thread on the build, looking forward to seeing it. 8)
Because I Can, and Have
-------------------------------------------------------------
USAF-72-76
God Bless America.
Disclaimer, not responsible for anyone copying or building anything i make.
Always consult an expert first.
.45colt
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 3408
Joined: Fri Sep 07, 2007 5:00 am
Location: North Coast of America-Ohio

Re: Hay Trolleys

Post by .45colt »

Like being in a time machine.........It's about 88* at 2:00 in the afternoon in August here in Ohio . 1969.. I'm 15 ...After following the hay baler around for hours and pitching bales up on the truck, back to the barn......an electric hay elevator brings bale after bale of hay up in the barn, thrown off of the 1940's Studebaker flatbed, the layers of rectangular bales were separated only by a good layer of salt thrown on each one. the closer We got to the top of the barn the hotter it got and in the small window at the peak were the King Kong of ugly huge barn spiders . once filled to the top We made our way down the ladders all the way to the ground floor, to the water well, most of the wells were deep and the one at the big barn had water like ice water. nothing ever tasted so Good. I had a Great time as a Kid and was watched over by some wonderful people.
Off in the other side of the barn was the Hay Trolley that sit silently on it's track with the giant fork that would never be used again . I often wondered about just how they worked. And now I know the rest of the story. Thank You. Pitchy.
User avatar
Pitchy
Posting leader...
Posts: 11485
Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:15 am
Location: Minnesooooota

Re: Hay Trolleys

Post by Pitchy »

Cool story 45colt, yep haying was always hot, i remember one time when i was a kid we were putting square bales using a elevator in the second story of a old house through a window.
The bats were flying around in there like flies and one landed on a friends ear, boy were we glad to get out of there.
Trolleys, now ya know glad ya enjoyed the thread. :)
Because I Can, and Have
-------------------------------------------------------------
USAF-72-76
God Bless America.
Disclaimer, not responsible for anyone copying or building anything i make.
Always consult an expert first.
User avatar
Pitchy
Posting leader...
Posts: 11485
Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:15 am
Location: Minnesooooota

Re: Hay Trolleys

Post by Pitchy »

Got the Hudson trolley made in MPLS today, had to make a track for it but we got er done. :D

Image

Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhNSCdx0OPs

Because I Can, and Have
-------------------------------------------------------------
USAF-72-76
God Bless America.
Disclaimer, not responsible for anyone copying or building anything i make.
Always consult an expert first.
User avatar
GunnyMack
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 4986
Joined: Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:57 am
Location: Not where I want to be!

Re: Hay Trolleys

Post by GunnyMack »

That's a beautiful! Have you ever noticed the old stuff is is FINISHED? Its pleasing to the eye. If that was brandy new it would look rough & raw with sharp edges. No pride anymore...
NUKE err I mean Boycott China- now and forever!!
User avatar
Pitchy
Posting leader...
Posts: 11485
Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:15 am
Location: Minnesooooota

Re: Hay Trolleys

Post by Pitchy »

Thanks Gunny yep they are real ornate.
I believe this one originally was red with blue pulleys. but not positive will have to research some more. :)
Because I Can, and Have
-------------------------------------------------------------
USAF-72-76
God Bless America.
Disclaimer, not responsible for anyone copying or building anything i make.
Always consult an expert first.
Bill in Oregon
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 5550
Joined: Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:05 am
Location: Alamogordo, NM

Re: Hay Trolleys

Post by Bill in Oregon »

I learn more darn stuff reading Pitchy's threads!

:lol:
User avatar
Pitchy
Posting leader...
Posts: 11485
Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:15 am
Location: Minnesooooota

Re: Hay Trolleys

Post by Pitchy »

I`m learning right along with ya buddy. :)
Because I Can, and Have
-------------------------------------------------------------
USAF-72-76
God Bless America.
Disclaimer, not responsible for anyone copying or building anything i make.
Always consult an expert first.
User avatar
OldWin
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 3965
Joined: Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:38 pm
Location: Maine

Re: Hay Trolleys

Post by OldWin »

Wow! That one sure is purty, Pitchy. Works slick too.
Amazes me how much time and detail they put in a simple tool like that.
Different times for sure. :D
The oppressors are coming!
User avatar
Pitchy
Posting leader...
Posts: 11485
Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:15 am
Location: Minnesooooota

Re: Hay Trolleys

Post by Pitchy »

Thanks buddy, we just painted it waiting for it to dry then will post a picture, this model was all blue with white lettering the other models were red. :)
Because I Can, and Have
-------------------------------------------------------------
USAF-72-76
God Bless America.
Disclaimer, not responsible for anyone copying or building anything i make.
Always consult an expert first.
User avatar
Pitchy
Posting leader...
Posts: 11485
Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:15 am
Location: Minnesooooota

Re: Hay Trolleys

Post by Pitchy »

Got er done, looks pretty good.

Image
Because I Can, and Have
-------------------------------------------------------------
USAF-72-76
God Bless America.
Disclaimer, not responsible for anyone copying or building anything i make.
Always consult an expert first.
User avatar
GunnyMack
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 4986
Joined: Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:57 am
Location: Not where I want to be!

Re: Hay Trolleys

Post by GunnyMack »

Wow talk about eye candy! That looks great Lenn! Almost too pretty to use!!
Now, you need to rig it to your archery target. That way you can shoot your crossbow, yank the trolley cord and get your arrows back without any walking!
NUKE err I mean Boycott China- now and forever!!
User avatar
Pitchy
Posting leader...
Posts: 11485
Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:15 am
Location: Minnesooooota

Re: Hay Trolleys

Post by Pitchy »

Now there`s a idea, thanks buddy. :)
Because I Can, and Have
-------------------------------------------------------------
USAF-72-76
God Bless America.
Disclaimer, not responsible for anyone copying or building anything i make.
Always consult an expert first.
User avatar
Pitchy
Posting leader...
Posts: 11485
Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:15 am
Location: Minnesooooota

Re: Hay Trolleys

Post by Pitchy »

One more picture on the track, that`s it for hay trolleys.
Thanks for the comments.

Image
Because I Can, and Have
-------------------------------------------------------------
USAF-72-76
God Bless America.
Disclaimer, not responsible for anyone copying or building anything i make.
Always consult an expert first.
User avatar
OldWin
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 3965
Joined: Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:38 pm
Location: Maine

Re: Hay Trolleys

Post by OldWin »

Hey, nice job on the trolley bud. The paint job looks nice.
Get er all rigged up and it can deliver your supper right to you! :D
The oppressors are coming!
User avatar
Pitchy
Posting leader...
Posts: 11485
Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:15 am
Location: Minnesooooota

Re: Hay Trolleys

Post by Pitchy »

Thanks Jay, she`s a beauty :)
Because I Can, and Have
-------------------------------------------------------------
USAF-72-76
God Bless America.
Disclaimer, not responsible for anyone copying or building anything i make.
Always consult an expert first.
piller
Posting leader...
Posts: 10172
Joined: Sat Sep 29, 2007 9:49 pm
Location: South of Dallas

Re: Hay Trolleys

Post by piller »

The red, white, and blue is indeed beautiful. Not many items are designed to last nowadays. Too bad.
D. Brian Casady
Quid Llatine Dictum Sit, Altum Viditur.
Advanced is being able to do the basics while your leg is on fire---Bill Jeans
Don't ever take a fence down until you know why it was put up---Robert Frost
User avatar
Pitchy
Posting leader...
Posts: 11485
Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:15 am
Location: Minnesooooota

Re: Hay Trolleys

Post by Pitchy »

Thanks piller, my first thought was the flag, she caries a heavy load. :)
Because I Can, and Have
-------------------------------------------------------------
USAF-72-76
God Bless America.
Disclaimer, not responsible for anyone copying or building anything i make.
Always consult an expert first.
User avatar
Pitchy
Posting leader...
Posts: 11485
Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:15 am
Location: Minnesooooota

Re: Hay Trolleys

Post by Pitchy »

Today we made a miniature wood hay harpoon. :)

Image

Image
Because I Can, and Have
-------------------------------------------------------------
USAF-72-76
God Bless America.
Disclaimer, not responsible for anyone copying or building anything i make.
Always consult an expert first.
piller
Posting leader...
Posts: 10172
Joined: Sat Sep 29, 2007 9:49 pm
Location: South of Dallas

Re: Hay Trolleys

Post by piller »

Cool. Being from the dry country of the high desert plains, we could store hay outside most of the time. These implements are new to me. I showed them to my Dad who grew up in the Cimarron Strip, and he had never seen these things. They stacked their hay outside.
D. Brian Casady
Quid Llatine Dictum Sit, Altum Viditur.
Advanced is being able to do the basics while your leg is on fire---Bill Jeans
Don't ever take a fence down until you know why it was put up---Robert Frost
User avatar
Pitchy
Posting leader...
Posts: 11485
Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:15 am
Location: Minnesooooota

Re: Hay Trolleys

Post by Pitchy »

Thanks piller, the first video on my first post shows one in action on a square bale but they used them for loose hay also.
They also made a single harpoon and i just bought one on ebay and will post it when it arrives. :)
Because I Can, and Have
-------------------------------------------------------------
USAF-72-76
God Bless America.
Disclaimer, not responsible for anyone copying or building anything i make.
Always consult an expert first.
EdinCT
Levergunner 3.0
Posts: 720
Joined: Mon Sep 10, 2007 12:27 pm
Location: Southeast CT

Re: Hay Trolleys

Post by EdinCT »

Pitchy I am late to the party again. I have one in my barn that came out the gable end until 15 years ago or so. I saved the track I took down. I also had a bow off the the side about 15 feet up the gable end barn wall. My dad knew what everything was and how to use it.( There was one in the dairy barn at Grams folks) He said they pulled the wagon under the grappling and tripped it, then they took the line that ran through the hoop and used one of the team that was taken off the wagon and pulled it up and and back in the barn. My barn is 100 feet long so it must of been a great improvement. Dad said the kids would get to jump around on the hay to pack it down so more would fit. My tines are a scary item! Thanks for the videos.
User avatar
Pitchy
Posting leader...
Posts: 11485
Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:15 am
Location: Minnesooooota

Re: Hay Trolleys

Post by Pitchy »

Thanks EdinCT, sounds like ya have some neat stuff and memories, would of been fun to put up hay that way at least for a while.
I`m building a miniature barn and trolley today should have it done by tomorrow afternoon so watch for that.
Because I Can, and Have
-------------------------------------------------------------
USAF-72-76
God Bless America.
Disclaimer, not responsible for anyone copying or building anything i make.
Always consult an expert first.
User avatar
OldWin
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 3965
Joined: Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:38 pm
Location: Maine

Re: Hay Trolleys

Post by OldWin »

Cool buddy. I'd never seen the harpoons before.
Course, I ain't a farmer, either. :D
The oppressors are coming!
User avatar
Pitchy
Posting leader...
Posts: 11485
Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:15 am
Location: Minnesooooota

Re: Hay Trolleys

Post by Pitchy »

Thanks Jay. :)
Got the single hay harpoon today, it dates to 1865.
It was advertised to pick up 8 hay forks of hay.
A string would run through a hole in the handle and tie too the trigger so it could be tripped from the ground.

Image

Video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkiB2-Guqhs
Because I Can, and Have
-------------------------------------------------------------
USAF-72-76
God Bless America.
Disclaimer, not responsible for anyone copying or building anything i make.
Always consult an expert first.
User avatar
Pitchy
Posting leader...
Posts: 11485
Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:15 am
Location: Minnesooooota

Re: Hay Trolleys

Post by Pitchy »

Got another hay harpoon, painted it to match the Husdon trolley.

Image
Because I Can, and Have
-------------------------------------------------------------
USAF-72-76
God Bless America.
Disclaimer, not responsible for anyone copying or building anything i make.
Always consult an expert first.
User avatar
OldWin
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 3965
Joined: Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:38 pm
Location: Maine

Re: Hay Trolleys

Post by OldWin »

Looks nice buddy! Gotta love the quality of the "old days". :D
The oppressors are coming!
User avatar
Pitchy
Posting leader...
Posts: 11485
Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:15 am
Location: Minnesooooota

Re: Hay Trolleys

Post by Pitchy »

Double thanks buddy, with Jays help we found out it was made by the Milwaukee hay and tool Co. :)
Because I Can, and Have
-------------------------------------------------------------
USAF-72-76
God Bless America.
Disclaimer, not responsible for anyone copying or building anything i make.
Always consult an expert first.
User avatar
OldWin
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 3965
Joined: Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:38 pm
Location: Maine

Re: Hay Trolleys

Post by OldWin »

No problem old buddy. Glad I could help.
The oppressors are coming!
User avatar
Pitchy
Posting leader...
Posts: 11485
Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:15 am
Location: Minnesooooota

Re: Hay Trolleys

Post by Pitchy »

We have a new trolley coming Monday its a Meyers timber runner, we have been busy making a beam for it to run on.
The beam is rough 2x4`s screwed together and will be hung in the rafters of this building, looking forward to getting it up.

Image

Image

Image
Because I Can, and Have
-------------------------------------------------------------
USAF-72-76
God Bless America.
Disclaimer, not responsible for anyone copying or building anything i make.
Always consult an expert first.
User avatar
OldWin
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 3965
Joined: Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:38 pm
Location: Maine

Re: Hay Trolleys

Post by OldWin »

Good work buddy. Be sure to post pics when you get it.
The oppressors are coming!
User avatar
Pitchy
Posting leader...
Posts: 11485
Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:15 am
Location: Minnesooooota

Re: Hay Trolleys

Post by Pitchy »

Thanks Jay, will do. :)
Because I Can, and Have
-------------------------------------------------------------
USAF-72-76
God Bless America.
Disclaimer, not responsible for anyone copying or building anything i make.
Always consult an expert first.
Bill in Oregon
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 5550
Joined: Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:05 am
Location: Alamogordo, NM

Re: Hay Trolleys

Post by Bill in Oregon »

You sure do stay busy, Lenn. That hay trolley really is something with that fresh paint.
User avatar
Pitchy
Posting leader...
Posts: 11485
Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:15 am
Location: Minnesooooota

Re: Hay Trolleys

Post by Pitchy »

Thanks Bill it turned out pretty nice. :)
Because I Can, and Have
-------------------------------------------------------------
USAF-72-76
God Bless America.
Disclaimer, not responsible for anyone copying or building anything i make.
Always consult an expert first.
M. M. Wright
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 3897
Joined: Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:57 pm
Location: Vinita, I.T.

Re: Hay Trolleys

Post by M. M. Wright »

Wow Bro' you're sure stayin' busy. I had to quit today because of the rain and lightning. We were taking a truck cab off a frame to put on our crane truck which has front and back glass gone. Easier to just change cabs. Better doors too.
M. M. Wright, Sheriff, Green county Arkansas (1860)
Currently living my eternal life.
NRA Life
SASS
ITSASS
Post Reply