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You would think they would hire a professional PR firm to put this together. This is the most unsincere, unprofessional, cut & paste, justification of what they did. He couldn't even use the word "firearms". He had to say "things".


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Seem to have lost a Benchmade ... oh well, go Spyderco now. Sent them a picture of my Spyderco on facebook.

Show them your Spydercos.
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Wow.................

That is really amazing.

He basically just said 'Benchmade is committed to being a great company, and making great knifes, and oh, by the way, we say we support the Second Amendment...' :roll: :roll: :roll:

This is what I just left on their 'contact us' page, not that it will make a difference:

Here's the deal, Mr. Les de Asis (...and I'm gonna be good and not twist your name like I'm tempted...) if you want to not go down the tubes like the fecal matter your company seems to have become, you have two choices I can think of:

a) you donate $1 million each to the NRA, GOA, and the SAF, and do it in public, or
b) you pledge (and prove) you will donate 5% of your profits to those organizations, forever.

Until then, enjoy the swirling...
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I forget exactly when,(ca 2007-ish) but the owner of Leatherman, also in OR, stepped on his tallywhacker vis-a-vis Firearms and is still in hot water , and he has not changed his opinions on the need for gun control.
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AJMD429 wrote: Sat Feb 23, 2019 12:10 pm Wow.................

That is really amazing.

He basically just said 'Benchmade is committed to being a great company, and making great knifes, and oh, by the way, we say we support the Second Amendment...' :roll: :roll: :roll:

This is what I just left on their 'contact us' page, not that it will make a difference:

Here's the deal, Mr. Les de Asis (...and I'm gonna be good and not twist your name like I'm tempted...) if you want to not go down the tubes like the fecal matter your company seems to have become, you have two choices I can think of:

a) you donate $1 million each to the NRA, GOA, and the SAF, and do it in public, or
b) you pledge (and prove) you will donate 5% of your profits to those organizations, forever.

Until then, enjoy the swirling...
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That’s about all I got out of it also. I have one Benchmade and when it’s gone I’ll just start carrying my CRKT again.
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If you are going to the NRA show, Benchmade's booth is directly behind MagPul.

I wonder if they are going to cancel. :twisted:
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The hits keep coming! Seems the little Mrs. De Asis is filtering funds also, so not just Benchmade, but the family too!

https://www.opensecrets.org/donor-looku ... ta+de+asis

https://www.opensecrets.org/donor-looku ... rta+deasis

And of course Les is doing his fair share too, apart from BM's contributions!

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https://www.opensecrets.org/donor-looku ... ter+deasis

https://www.opensecrets.org/donor-looku ... er+de+asis

But he's IS pro gun, and supports us! At least that's his story!

Hope Les mans the booth at the NRA show and explains he and his wife's donations, plus company donations!
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jdad wrote: Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:10 pm If you are going to the NRA show, Benchmade's booth is directly behind MagPul.

I wonder if they are going to cancel. :twisted:
Since it's in my hometown, I'll definitely be there. It should be interesting to see what they do to try to recover.
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Mr. de Asis has put himself and his company in a rough.

I'd think that he might be excused if he'd just been a good citizen trying to help out the local cops, but when the fire started on the Internet and people began to investigate his personal politics, his d_ck was in the wringer.

The only path that Benchmade has now is to let the storm blow over and then assess the damage and try to repair their image.

They'd be doing themselves a big favor by hiring a new honcho. If they don't, Mr. de Asis politics will continue to affect their bottom line.

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I don't have any Benchmade knives. Never have. I didn't know about Leatherman. I do have several. I am not buying any more.
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Leatherman went so far as to make a public announcement years ago when Tim Leatherman's left wing donations came to light, and say those were his personal beliefs, but did not represent the company or it's employees.
I found that hilarious also, as money going into the company ended up in Tim's pocket. So what's the difference if it's the company's or the owner's? It was kinda like, "Don't take it out on us, we want to save our jobs!"
I'm waiting for the same similar response from Benchmade in the future. "Please don't boycott us, as we employees like getting paid!" and "We're not responsible for what our owner does!"
On another forum I frequent some new guy just joined (coincidence?) to say that he's know Les De Asis for years, and he's a "good guy" and "not anti gun". He went on to complain how BM is getting crucified for simply helping OCPD when whoever usually cuts up their guns was "too busy to help". Like OCPD just couldn't wait any longer to get these guns cut up?
He also said that BM "has to donate to local left wing politicians, based simply on doing business in Oregon". What the heck? Is this like the Democratic Mafia, where they stop in and Guido says make a donation or we'll break your knees? Hilarious.
Pretty sure the new guy was a plant by Benchmade to try to explain away their involvement in both the gun destruction, and political contributions. I expect to see new people joining all sorts of gun web sites and trying to put a bandaid on this whole thing. Surely BM has PR folks who can join here and explain this all to us, and make us feel warm and cozy!
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Sorry im new to all this, would someone please fill me in on what was said or provide us a link please?
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Galloway wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:17 pm Sorry im new to all this, would someone please fill me in on what was said or provide us a link please?
This might help. There's two threads going on here:

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I remember the Leatherman deal on MarlinTalk, the forerunner to MarlinOwners.

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All too late, the damage is done. Let him sell knives to the local PD.
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I was looking for a new knife last weekend. I nearly bought a Benchmade. I ended up walking out with a Zero-Tolerance after my wife convinced me to get what I really wanted. This was before I read about the traitorous activities of Benchmade. I’m glad things worked out that way.
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This is a very good interview with Gun Talk, and well worth listening to!

Here's the latest interview with Benchmade's PR guy who is a pretty honest guy, and trying to explain away Benchmade's position. Unfortunately he can't explain their lobbying group, who have a long history of working for Liberal causes.
The PR guy also admits this destruction of firearms is not a one time thing, but a contract they've had with OCPD for several years, or more.

I actually felt bad for BM's representative while talking to Gun Talk, as he was in such a position that nothing he could say could defend BM's position, or past acts.

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I heard the GT interview the other day. The PR guy earned his pay, but is just spouting what Les wants him to spout.

I'm really surprised Les still won't come out and state a real apology. I guess they figure this will blow over, be a temporary loss of business, and the military contracts will sustain them.
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marlinman93 wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:55 am
I actually felt bad for BM's representative while talking to Gun Talk, as he was in such a position that nothing he could say could defend BM's position, or past acts.]


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I would hope the NRA would ban them from the annual meeting.
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If it wasn't for 'socialist media' no one would have know that BM is a liberal anti company. That being said if BM was smart they never would have shown the video. I'm glad I don't own anything from them. If I did I would have cut it up while taking video and then posted it online for the world to see.
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jdad wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:29 am I heard the GT interview the other day. The PR guy earned his pay, but is just spouting what Les wants him to spout.

I'm really surprised Les still won't come out and state a real apology. I guess they figure this will blow over, be a temporary loss of business, and the military contracts will sustain them.
I would have thought that a PR or marketing guy who is willing to talk to Gun Talk to accomplish damage control would have been well prepared. He'd have found out everything about anything bad, and made changes to their routine. So when Gun Talk asked about the gun destruction, and the donations, and lobbyists, he could tell them it had all been corrected. But all he could say was they weren't going to be destroying anymore guns.
He was so surprised by the information on their lobbyist group that all he could do was sit there dead silent when told. That was a huge deal, and from his silence I could tell there was nothing he could say to fix it. He should have told him he'd look into it, and make changes in who they use. But I doubt he has the clout to do that, so he was left with nothing to say. Not good to be caught with your pants down, and no ability to pull them up!
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Read that cops used BM to destroy guns because of their "specialized" equipment. Photo showed a grinder and cutting torch. :roll: :roll: never have bought one, never will.
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Here is another video on who BM donates money to (basically it goes to antigunners) This Lady goes by “Liberty Doll” and shares some info with us:

https://youtu.be/KNGmVpadElA
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BlaineG wrote: Sat Feb 23, 2019 1:29 pm I forget exactly when,(ca 2007-ish) but the owner of Leatherman, also in OR, stepped on his tallywhacker vis-a-vis Firearms and is still in hot water , and he has not changed his opinions on the need for gun control.
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I just picked up a Gerber "US Assist". Half the price of the BM Mini Barrage I lost. Quality and functionally are pretty darn close.

Nice to see another OR company put out a US made product. https://www.gerbergear.com/Activity/EVE ... _30-001205

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jdad wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:29 am I heard the GT interview the other day. The PR guy earned his pay, but is just spouting what Les wants him to spout.

I'm really surprised Les still won't come out and state a real apology. I guess they figure this will blow over, be a temporary loss of business, and the military contracts will sustain them.
After listening to the Gun Talk interview I got the feeling the Benchmade Rep kind of had that deer in the headlights look while he was talking. I almost felt sorry for the guy.
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Rusty wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:35 pm
jdad wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:29 am I heard the GT interview the other day. The PR guy earned his pay, but is just spouting what Les wants him to spout.

I'm really surprised Les still won't come out and state a real apology. I guess they figure this will blow over, be a temporary loss of business, and the military contracts will sustain them.
After listening to the Gun Talk interview I got the feeling the Benchmade Rep kind of had that deer in the headlights look while he was talking. I almost felt sorry for the guy.
Yes, the Gun Talk host was gentle to him, but didn't hold back on the facts. And I felt a twinge of sadness for the Marketing guy also. Tough to be in that position, and not have all your ducks in a row. No response to the Gun Talk host's facts except dead silence. Poor guy, but tough luck for BM.
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COSteve wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:51 am
Not tough luck for BM at all. They made their choices and now get to live with the consequences of them.
My "tough luck" was meant exactly that way. Tough luck, they deserve it.
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Somebody sent a message to BM and I don't think they accepted their apology. This is not mine.


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jeepnik wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 3:43 pm
BlaineG wrote: Sat Feb 23, 2019 1:29 pm I forget exactly when,(ca 2007-ish) but the owner of Leatherman, also in OR, stepped on his tallywhacker vis-a-vis Firearms and is still in hot water , and he has not changed his opinions on the need for gun control.
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jdad wrote: Sun Mar 03, 2019 7:10 pm Somebody sent a message to BM and I don't think they accepted their apology. This is not mine.


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