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S&W 317 Air lite 22 ** Update **

#1 Post by 3leggedturtle » Sun Feb 10, 2019 1:12 am

What is your honest opinion of these pistols. Theres one at the shop, its got the 2" or so barrel. Guy wants $400, i was thinking $300. Its fun to shoot, but are they meant to be carried alot and shot little? I just noticed Ruger brought out a LCRx 3" adj. sight in 357 Mag that weighs 21ozs,so that throws a wrench into things. todd/3leg
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30/30 Winchester: Not accurate enough fer varmints, barely adequate for small deer; BUT In a 10" to 14" barrelled pistol; is good for moose/elk to 200 yards; ground squirrels to 300 metres

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Re: S&W 317 Air lite 22

#2 Post by argie1891 » Sun Feb 10, 2019 2:39 am

When I read that smith and Wesson was coming out with the model 317 I knew I was going to buy the first one I saw. I bought serial number lgt067x and must admit I paid more than the $400 your shop is asking. your question is will it hold up to 1500 rounds answer yes and many times that number. I carry this little 22 as my summer time carry pistol. the 9.9 oz weight fits in my pocket and the 8 shot cylinder gives me some comfort. it is my belief that a carry gun should be shot often and I shoot my carry guns every time I go to the range. I dont make it to the range every week because of weather and health problems. but I shoot it at least 30 times a year and am happy to say it is a real keeper. the trigger pull and hammer cocking spring is flat hard. I was told that S&W knew that this revolver was going to be carried for self protection and wanted to assure that the 22 shells would fire every time. they made the springs a bit more powerful than needed. I have no real idea how many rounds I have put down the 2 inch tube but it has to be several thousand. It isnt a target revolver but I practice and know I can hit a head size target at 15 yards every time I pull the trigger. Many will say a 22 isnt big enough but my answer is a 22 in the pocket beats a 45 left in the car or at home because it is too heavy or big. again a 22 beats saying Please dont hurt me. hope this helps you make a decision on your purchase argie1891 aka joe g.

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Re: S&W 317 Air lite 22

#3 Post by BlaineG » Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:50 am

Right when they first came out, I bought one as my first EDC. Very, very heavy double action pull. Excellent single action pull. For me, un-cocking it is a real bit*h because of the stubby little hammer and the Gawd-awful heavy spring, so I only practice shooting double action with it. At close SD range, if you're careful, you can rip off all the rounds in a couple seconds into a torso-sized target.
Plinking is ok if I'm sure I'm going to fire it once it's cocked. It's very, very light, something like <14oz fully loaded. It's an aquired taste, so try to shoot if first. They also made/make a Lady's model with a full sized hammer. I keep meaning to see if one would retro fit on mine.
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#4 Post by vancelw » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:54 am

I've got one. Love it. Weighs nothing.
$400 is cheap. Those are over $700 new.
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#5 Post by jdad » Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:40 am

"$400 is cheap. Those are over $700 new."

You ain't gonna get it for $300. :wink:
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#6 Post by Pete44ru » Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:57 am

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About 15 years ago, I bought a similar Model 351PD in .22Mag when they were 1st introduced, paying $325 OTD @ a local funshop.

When I found out how high the demand for one was, about 10mos later - I flipped it in a New York Minute @ a funshow for $450.

The flip didn't involve a lot of remorse in me, as I already had a 1970's 3" Charter Pathfinder in .22Mag.

IMHO, a M-317 in excellent condition is well worth $400, these days.

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#7 Post by 3leggedturtle » Sun Feb 10, 2019 1:06 pm

Thanks all. I've put 56 rounds thru it all ready, helped clean it up. Its pretty scratched up and screws are buggered some. Guy who had is a billary fan. He took it apart or tried to, in the words of the 'smith he shouldnt be allowed to touch guns! :lol:

Blaine, the little stub hammer is more of an irritant than anything, knew their DA's were heavy but it stacks nice. I'm taking off to Texas for 3 weeks so if its still here when I git back i may grab otherwise it'll be a nice find for one their other customers.
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#8 Post by Paladin » Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:16 pm

Pete44ru wrote:
Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:57 am
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About 15 years ago, I bought a similar Model 351PD in .22Mag when they were 1st introduced, paying $325 OTD @ a local funshop.

When I found out how high the demand for one was, about 10mos later - I flipped it in a New York Minute @ a funshow for $450.

The flip didn't involve a lot of remorse in me, as I already had a 1970's 3" Charter Pathfinder in .22Mag.

IMHO, a M-317 in excellent condition is well worth $400, these days.

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Re: S&W 317 Air lite 22

#9 Post by jdad » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:01 am

Paladin wrote:
Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:16 pm
Pete44ru wrote:
Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:57 am
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About 15 years ago, I bought a similar Model 351PD in .22Mag when they were 1st introduced, paying $325 OTD @ a local funshop.



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I also went this route but will not let it go.
Speer specifically makes a 22mag Gold Dot, for short barreled handguns. https://www.speer-ammo.com/products/amm ... s=22%20WMR
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Re: S&W 317 Air lite 22

#10 Post by Rusty » Thu Feb 14, 2019 9:15 pm

You might try a spring kit in it. Most of them come with several different weights of springs so you can see how light you want to go.
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Re: S&W 317 Air lite 22

#11 Post by Paladin » Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:31 pm

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Speer specifically makes a 22mag Gold Dot, for short barreled handguns. https://www.speer-ammo.com/products/amm ... s=22%20WMR
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Good stuff it works well in the Keltec PMR-30 and the S&W.
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#12 Post by kaschi » Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:52 pm

Anyone try shotshells out of the 317? Might be nice to carry one loaded with them for ventilating snakes.

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#13 Post by vancelw » Fri Feb 15, 2019 6:21 pm

kaschi wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:52 pm
Anyone try shotshells out of the 317? Might be nice to carry one loaded with them for ventilating snakes.
Mine is usually loaded with 4 shotshells and 4 HP. But I use the shotshells on rodents. I don't like getting that close to snakes. :shock:
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Re: S&W 317 Air lite 22

#14 Post by kaschi » Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:09 pm

Yeah, I'm with you on that Vance! They give me the creeps even from 40 feet away.

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Re: S&W 317 Air lite 22

#15 Post by vancelw » Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:11 am

Rat shot from a .22 is pretty short range. 10 or 12 feet at best. I like a 16 gauge at 3 feet for a snake. I know that 16 isn't just going to make it mad!
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Re: S&W 317 Air lite 22

#16 Post by wm » Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:36 am

Just my opinion, but comparing a short barreled 22lr to a short barreled 357 mag is apples and oranges comparison but honestly I would take the 357 given that choice. I can shoot handloaded 38 spl almost as inexpensively as I can 22lr (as 'almost' is a pretty stretchable term) and I would have the capacity to shoot something more powerful should the need arise.


I just see the LCR in your situation as being more versatile.


However I would also say reasonable priced S&W 317 are rarely encountered while the LCR is easily acquired …… so knowing my own impulses I might opt to go against my own advice and buy the 317 now and start saving to order the LCR later.


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Re: S&W 317 Air lite 22

#17 Post by 3leggedturtle » Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:30 pm

I found an early Ruger Service Six with 2 3/4" barrel in 38 Special for a decent price, so the Ait lite is no longer in my thoughts. Todd/3leg
30/30 Winchester: Not accurate enough fer varmints, barely adequate for small deer; BUT In a 10" to 14" barrelled pistol; is good for moose/elk to 200 yards; ground squirrels to 300 metres

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