Winchester stock lacquer

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Winchester stock lacquer

#1 Post by MGR1 » Sat Feb 09, 2019 1:04 pm

Hi all.

In the 1970's and 80's Winchester used some sort of reddish lacquer for their stocks, see example below. Does anyone here know how to reproduce this factory finish?

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Re: Winchester stock lacquer

#2 Post by GunnyMack » Sat Feb 09, 2019 1:43 pm

I think Brownells had a Winchester red stain that reproduced the color quite well.
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Re: Winchester stock lacquer

#3 Post by .45colt » Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:29 pm

I re-member Seeing this some years ago, had to do a search for it.https://www.ebay.com/itm/Winchester-Res ... xy4RpRyviy

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Re: Winchester stock lacquer

#4 Post by wm » Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:56 pm

I feel certain the formula for the finish you want is contained in Howe's "the Modern Gunsmith". Frankly just about everything you need to know about anything applicable to a firearm design existing pre WW2 is probably covered in here.

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Re: Winchester stock lacquer

#5 Post by Old No7 » Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:11 pm

Galazan/CT Shotgun also sells a reddish Winchester stain too, I believe.

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Re: Winchester stock lacquer

#6 Post by Pete44ru » Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:24 pm

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The Winchester tone/color can be reproduced via mixing stains...…………………………… :mrgreen:

I use 75% Black Walnut + 25% Red Mahogany Minwax stains (which mixture passed muster with several different Winchester collectors) - although, if you want to experiment, two different brown stains can be mixed with any of the three other red stains to reach the desired color.

I experimented by staining 3" wide sections of a 3/4"x3"x36" walnut board, I bought at a hobby shop, with the various different stain mixtures for a side-by-side comparison.

https://www.minwax.com/wood-products/st ... lor-guide/


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Re: Winchester stock lacquer

#7 Post by marlinman93 » Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:42 am

Used to be a couple guys in Idaho who sold Tapadera's Winchester Red finish, and it was perfect! It could be used directly on the wood, but also diluted into your finish. I found it too concentrated as is, and put a few drops into my Wipe On Poly to get the correct red tone.
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Re: Winchester stock lacquer

#8 Post by cnjarvis » Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:52 am

Pete44ru wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:24 pm
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The Winchester tone/color can be reproduced via mixing stains...…………………………… :mrgreen:

I use 75% Black Walnut + 25% Red Mahogany Minwax stains (which mixture passed muster with several different Winchester collectors) - although, if you want to experiment, two different brown stains can be mixed with any of the three other red stains to reach the desired color.

I experimented by staining 3" wide sections of a 3/4"x3"x36" walnut board, I bought at a hobby shop, with the various different stain mixtures for a side-by-side comparison.

https://www.minwax.com/wood-products/st ... lor-guide/

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This is exactly what I used on my Trail’s End rifle when I had to refinish the stock after correcting for the recessed tang at the top of the wrist. Worked perfectly.

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Re: Winchester stock lacquer

#9 Post by Chuck 100 yd » Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:18 pm

Brownels French red stain followed by True oil or your favorite clear finish gets you darn close.

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