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I too have a Jeep now

#1 Post by M. M. Wright » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:24 pm

My poor old body has deteriorated to the point where I can no longer traipse over hill and dale at will so decided to get a 4X4 something for off road. Found this YJ for the price of the wheels and tires so bought it even though it didn't run. Someone had attempted a GM TBI (throttle body injection) but botched it up really bad. The engine, a 4.2 I6 bent all the exhaust push rods when we turned it over so off with the head and ended up replacing all pistons and rings but the real challenge was getting the TBI sorted. Finally got her done this week. Well, not done but running and driving.
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#2 Post by Grizz » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:41 pm

So Nice !! looks like you can climb utility poles with that rig!

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#3 Post by Griff » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:57 pm

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#4 Post by 1894c » Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:40 pm

I had a jeep... :(
BIG CONGRATS on yours...:)
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#5 Post by crs » Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:57 pm

Nice Jeep and nice workshop!
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#6 Post by draperjojo » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:21 pm

I installed a Howell Fuel injection system on my CJ7. Howell used a GM 4.3L throttle body in the kit, it worked very well.
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#7 Post by JerryB » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:26 pm

No more mud hole trouble. That ought to do you fine.
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#8 Post by Sixgun » Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:29 am

Cool MM.....welcome to the world of Jeeps! In our family there's something like 14 Jeeps 🚙 ranging from yj's to j.k.'s.

They just run and run and run....got an 89 YJ in the barn that runs excellent, my TJ and the wife's JK.---6

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#9 Post by Mainehunter » Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:10 am

Nice Rig! My friend’s son finished off last year installing a 4BT Cummins in his :mrgreen: . Now he’s attempting to install a 6BT in a CJ5! The seats have been pushed back enough that when I sit in them I can practically hang one of my arms over the tail gate! It's going to be his dedicated trail rig.

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#10 Post by GunnyMack » Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:49 am

My first was an '88, had a blown head gasket. Half day to fix it. No rust n the body- around here that's a plus! Put new wheels on it, Webber carb. It had a new radiator, starter, clutch when I got it. Then I found a 5 speed Borg-Warner trams & transfer case to replace the Pugeot slips out 3rd gear trans & transfer. That jeep was great, even with the street tires it would go through snow up to the doors!
I miss my Rubicon right up to the point of where I need to haul something around.

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#11 Post by OldWin » Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:45 am

Nice.
A well set up YJ will run with anything. Few guys in our club run them and do very well.
Can't imagine life without a Jeep.
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#12 Post by M. M. Wright » Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:17 am

draperjojo wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:21 pm
I installed a Howell Fuel injection system on my CJ7. Howell used a GM 4.3L throttle body in the kit, it worked very well.
That's what I've been working on for the last couple of months. Had to change out the nozzles to ones from a 4.3 to get it to run right.
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#13 Post by Pitchy » Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:45 am

8) Grats MM, thinking about looking for one this spring myself. :)
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#14 Post by Bill in Oregon » Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:54 pm

Got to ride in a surplus Willys as a kid -- no doors or top, and front window folded forward. Boy, what an adventure! Wanted one ever since.

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#15 Post by draperjojo » Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:14 pm

I know what you mean...lol
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#16 Post by Sixgun » Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:17 pm

Hey Jay....that baby is shining! I agree buddy...could not imagine life without a 🚙. In fact, I'm headed to Quadratec ina few minutes to get wheel spacers for the new sneakers. (Can I have your Jeep?)---6
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#17 Post by mos » Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:15 pm

Nice ride! My daily driver is a 2-door Rubicon MT. Love it and can't imagine not being able to go anywhere or get out of anything. So few vehicles are made with a stick these days that a compact 4x4 MT is, well, I think only still built by Jeep!

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#18 Post by OldWin » Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:31 pm

Sixgun wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:17 pm
Hey Jay....that baby is shining! I agree buddy...could not imagine life without a 🚙. In fact, I'm headed to Quadratec ina few minutes to get wheel spacers for the new sneakers. (Can I have your Jeep?)---6
Spacers? You need spacers to clear those? I figured a 285 would clear. If they rub a little on the lower control arms at full turn, just put a lock washer behind the steering stop bolt. Should be enough.

No, you can't have it. :D
Probably has too many Bush marks compared to yours, anyway. :D
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#19 Post by wecsoger » Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:35 pm

Square headlights? That's a little...unsettling. (grin)

Had a 2001 TJ, sold it with settling other empty nest issues. Thinking about getting another.

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#20 Post by jnyork » Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:48 pm

That'll buff right out. :lol: :lol:
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#21 Post by GunnyMack » Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:10 pm

Recently saw the ROXOR it's a copy of the CJ series but its reduced scale for off road only. Ted Nugent has one. They are made by Mahindra, during WW2 they were licensed to produce the Willys for use in that part of the war...IIRC.

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#22 Post by .45colt » Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:30 pm

As someone who has now owned several in the last 45 years..........The Guy behind the parts counter told Me one day...... Just, Empty, Entire, Pocket,...of course this was before the internet. :shock: .

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#23 Post by GunnyMack » Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:37 pm

I heard it as Just Empty Every Pocket :lol:
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#24 Post by draperjojo » Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:07 pm

The Mahindra is cool, but can’t be licensed for street.

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#25 Post by t.r. » Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:51 am

Back in the early 1990's I owned a Jeep HONCHO pick-up that featured the straight 6 cylinder motor. The body rusted out after over 200,000 miles of use but was still running well when it was junked.

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#26 Post by jeepnik » Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:36 am

Mainehunter wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:10 am
Nice Rig! My friend’s son finished off last year installing a 4BT Cummins in his :mrgreen: . Now he’s attempting to install a 6BT in a CJ5! The seats have been pushed back enough that when I sit in them I can practically hang one of my arms over the tail gate! It's going to be his dedicated trail rig.

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First while it ain’t a CJ, it’ Still an older Jeep.

Second, real Jeepers know Jeep projects are never done.

After 37 years of changing mine, I’m working on putting it as close to stock as possible. I have a shed full of original parts. All were removed long before they expired as part of “projects”. The one thing I can’t find are original tires. Not sure what I’ll do about that.

Oh, one more thing. Put a hood liner on.
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#27 Post by Grizz » Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:00 am

I'm looking for a vehicle. Never owned a Jeep, don't know what to look for and what to avoid. Does anyone have a "simple" list for an older runner that is work-on-able and would serve as a cruiser as well as an offroader?

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#28 Post by OldWin » Tue Jan 15, 2019 1:26 pm

Hey Grizz,
I may be biased, but I consider the TJ (97-06) to be the best balance of what you are looking for. They were the first Jeep to go to a coil and four link suspension. Small lifts are easy and economical. They are pretty good on the road, and came with arguably the best engine ever put in a Jeep, the 4.0 I6.
With this, they are still pretty simple and easy to work on. They don't have such invasive electronics as the later JK and JL models.
All years are pretty good. There were some changes in transmission offerings, but none are real turds.
If you are going over a 31" tire and locking the rear, stay away from the Dana 35 rear end and look for a 44. This depends on driving style, as I have an old 97 with a 4 cylinder that I ran on 33s with a rear Tru- trac and never had a problem.
If you live in the rust belt, check the frame real good.
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#29 Post by Grizz » Tue Jan 15, 2019 4:21 pm

OldWin wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 1:26 pm
Hey Grizz,
I may be biased, but I consider the TJ (97-06) to be the best balance of what you are looking for. They were the first Jeep to go to a coil and four link suspension. Small lifts are easy and economical. They are pretty good on the road, and came with arguably the best engine ever put in a Jeep, the 4.0 I6.
With this, they are still pretty simple and easy to work on. They don't have such invasive electronics as the later JK and JL models.
All years are pretty good. There were some changes in transmission offerings, but none are real turds.
If you are going over a 31" tire and locking the rear, stay away from the Dana 35 rear end and look for a 44. This depends on driving style, as I have an old 97 with a 4 cylinder that I ran on 33s with a rear Tru- trac and never had a problem.
If you live in the rust belt, check the frame real good.
I can go on for hours, so if you have any questions, give a holler. :D
Thank you SO much for this. It will narrow and define my searches. If I find something I'll run it by you.

First question, how do you know if the rear end is Dana 35 or 44? As to the rest, I do most all of my mechanickin, so am looking for the old style easy to work on ride.

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#30 Post by OldWin » Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:50 pm

The cover on a D44 looks like a stop sign. The 35 is more rounded. Also the fill plug on the 44 is a threaded plug where the 35 has a rubber push in plug.
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#31 Post by draperjojo » Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:25 pm

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#32 Post by Mainehunter » Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:48 pm

Grizz wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 4:21 pm
OldWin wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 1:26 pm
Hey Grizz,
I may be biased, but I consider the TJ (97-06) to be the best balance of what you are looking for. They were the first Jeep to go to a coil and four link suspension. Small lifts are easy and economical. They are pretty good on the road, and came with arguably the best engine ever put in a Jeep, the 4.0 I6.
With this, they are still pretty simple and easy to work on. They don't have such invasive electronics as the later JK and JL models.
All years are pretty good. There were some changes in transmission offerings, but none are real turds.
If you are going over a 31" tire and locking the rear, stay away from the Dana 35 rear end and look for a 44. This depends on driving style, as I have an old 97 with a 4 cylinder that I ran on 33s with a rear Tru- trac and never had a problem.
If you live in the rust belt, check the frame real good.
I can go on for hours, so if you have any questions, give a holler. :D
Thank you SO much for this. It will narrow and define my searches. If I find something I'll run it by you.

First question, how do you know if the rear end is Dana 35 or 44? As to the rest, I do most all of my mechanickin, so am looking for the old style easy to work on ride.
Also you might want to avoid the AMC 20 rear axle. They were installed on a lot of jeeps up to mid 80's. The pumpkin is similar in shape being round like the Dana 35. I do have one on my 80 CJ5 that I'm running 33's BUT I've done a few mods to it so strenght wise it equal to the Dana 44.

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#33 Post by OldWin » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:36 am

The AMC 20 won't be an issue unless getting back into the CJ. They are still stronger than a 35 if you replace the 2 piece shafts.
The problem with the 35 is weak c-clip shafts, a weak carrier, and wafer thin tubes. There is no hope for it.
The front Dana 30 is actually stronger. As long as you don't lock it solid, and drive with common sense, you can run 35s on them.
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#34 Post by Mainehunter » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:31 am

OldWin wrote:
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The AMC 20 won't be an issue unless getting back into the CJ. They are still stronger than a 35 if you replace the 2 piece shafts.
The problem with the 35 is weak c-clip shafts, a weak carrier, and wafer thin tubes. There is no hope for it.
The front Dana 30 is actually stronger. As long as you don't lock it solid, and drive with common sense, you can run 35s on them.
I’ve ended up installing the one-piece axles on the AMC 20 just a piece of mind. I’ve seen a couple of times two-piece axles snapping off and it wasn’t pretty! The other thing I did was stick welded the axle tubes to the housing. They have a tendency to twist if enough torque is applied. Supposedly a guy I know cousin has a AMC 20 that he installed a aftermarket full float kit a few years ago. He ended up taking it out and modifying a Dana 70. The last time I’ve talk to them was late last summer and he was toying around selling it. I mentioned to him I might be interested to give me a call when the time comes. It’s already January and I’m thinking he’s keeping it or sold it someone else. :|

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#35 Post by OldWin » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:19 am

The trick is finding an axle strong enough without going too big. Then they are heavy and have a lot less clearance under the pumpkin. Ford 9", Ford 8.8, Dana 44s work well.
Of course, a nice set of Curries, Dynatrac, or Core custom axles are nice. :D
And........if we had Six's money, we could have a set. :D
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