1858 Timing

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1858 Timing

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Was playing with my Uberti 1858 and discovered that one out of three cylinders has a timing problem.

I have 2 OEM cylinders and 1 R&D .45 ACP.

One OEM and the R&D work perfectly.

The other OEM doesn't.

It simply won't hit TDC and lock unless I either "forcefully" cock the hammer or manually give it a near 3mm turn.

Most distressing is that the hammert will still rom on the cap even if the cylinder is not fully locked. :shock:

I can't see any difference in the feed pawl cuts, so I'm stumped. :?

Hate to throw away an OEM cylinder if I don't have to....
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Re: 1858 Timing

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Hopefully steve young will soon give you an expert opinion.

Having spare cylinders work without fitting/timing seems to be the exception rather than the rule. None of the ones I've tried have worked and I have tried several. I have revolvers (19) made by pietta, uberti, and a.s.m. and have bought three or four spare cylinders over the years and none have worked and I don't have the patience to make them work.

B.T.W. the remington is the only one that a spare cylinder makes sense, the other designs are not quite tactical reload friendly.
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Re: 1858 Timing

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The myth of interchangeable cylinders. Yes, they are factory fitted. If after market spares function, it is pure luck.
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Re: 1858 Timing

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Old Ironsights wrote: Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:27 pm
The other OEM doesn't.

It simply won't hit TDC and lock unless I either "forcefully" cock the hammer or manually give it a near 3mm turn.

Most distressing is that the hammer will still rom on the cap even if the cylinder is not fully locked. :shock:

I can't see any difference in the feed pawl cuts, so I'm stumped. :?

Hate to throw away an OEM cylinder if I don't have to....
I think you're looking in the wrong place... Here's an idea...

Check the dimensions of the bolt-locking-notches on that problem cylinder -- and I suspect you'll find the answer there! They could be slightly undersized, maybe the lead-in angle is wrong, or perhaps there is a burr on each ("forcing" that cylinder to lock up could easily displace metal).

Don't mess with the locking bolt itself, as we know that's OK from the other 2 cylinders.

Hope this helps!

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I was fortunate years ago to buy an extra cylinder for a Ruger single six from ebay and have it fit. I hope it works out.
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Re: 1858 Timing

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Old Ironsights wrote: Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:27 pm
Most distressing is that the hammert will still rom on the cap even if the cylinder is not fully locked. :shock:
That gives me the willies for sure! :shock: :shock: :shock:

Instead of tossing it, why not see if it would work with another Uberti 1858? If it does, you could sell it - at least partially fund the next cylinder.

I had one like that years ago and offered it free here if the taker would pay the postage. I think it bounced once or twice before landing with someone who's gun it worked with.

I have a Uberti 1858. I'd be happy to try it. :D
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