Heavy hunting loads, .41 Magnum?

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Heavy hunting loads, .41 Magnum?

#1 Post by Bill in Oregon » Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:14 pm

Looking at buying some 250-grain LFNs or 265-grain WLNs from Beartooth, and lighting them off under Lil Gun, 296/H110 or H4227, none of which I currently have. Anyone have a powder preference for heavy cast in this chambering? I am not looking to redline, just get to an honest 1200 or so with serious accuracy.

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Re: Heavy hunting loads, .41 Magnum?

#2 Post by M. M. Wright » Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:00 pm

I always liked 296/H110 but then I was using lighter bullets. Mostly 190 grain. I really like the fact that the 41 shoots so much flatter than the 44M.
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Re: Heavy hunting loads, .41 Magnum?

#3 Post by PaperPatch » Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:03 pm

Blue Dot and 220 grain bullets, make tiny groups...and pack a lot of spank!!!

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#4 Post by 3leggedturtle » Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:22 pm

Paco had an article on loading heavier bullets in the 41 Mag. Todd

PS it’s in the Articles section in the forumn directory.
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Re: Heavy hunting loads, .41 Magnum?

#5 Post by GunnyMack » Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:49 pm

I'm using lilgun with 210s JHP out of my Henry, right around 1800fps and very accurate .

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Re: Heavy hunting loads, .41 Magnum?

#6 Post by crs » Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:43 pm

No help answering your question, but I do like the .41 Mag concept, as evidenced by my .411 .405 WCF at 2250 fps.
What.41 mag rifle do you use?
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Re: Heavy hunting loads, .41 Magnum?

#7 Post by piller » Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:31 pm

CRS, since that .405 WCF is much bigger than a .41 Magnum, wouldn't it be more of a Jeroboam?
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#8 Post by Bronco » Sun Sep 23, 2018 5:51 am

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#9 Post by Bill in Oregon » Sun Sep 23, 2018 7:10 am

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#10 Post by crs » Sun Sep 23, 2018 8:25 am

Piller.
No argument there, but I hate it when I have to reference a dictionary just to answer a forum post. :?
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Re: Heavy hunting loads, .41 Magnum?

#11 Post by BlaineG » Sun Sep 23, 2018 12:51 pm

PaperPatch wrote:
Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:03 pm
Blue Dot and 220 grain bullets, make tiny groups...and pack a lot of spank!!!

:wink:
Alliant has warned against Blue Dot for .41 Mag (and .357 with 125gr bullets)...but, 2400 burn rate is almost the same.

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Re: Heavy hunting loads, .41 Magnum?

#12 Post by JerryB » Sun Sep 23, 2018 3:56 pm

CRS, look in the Old Testament.
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#13 Post by Bill in Oregon » Sun Sep 23, 2018 3:58 pm

Blaine, you are right about Blue Dot and the .41. I used available data and Blue Dot for .41 loads in my very first .41 Blackhawk more than 30 years ago, and had some sort of event that locked the cylinder up solid. Sent it to Ruger and they fixed it, despite it being a handload. I had had good luck with that powder in a .44 Magnum.

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Re: Heavy hunting loads, .41 Magnum?

#14 Post by BlaineG » Sun Sep 23, 2018 11:43 pm

Bill in Oregon wrote:
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Blaine, you are right about Blue Dot and the .41. I used available data and Blue Dot for .41 loads in my very first .41 Blackhawk more than 30 years ago, and had some sort of event that locked the cylinder up solid. Sent it to Ruger and they fixed it, despite it being a handload. I had had good luck with that powder in a .44 Magnum.
Yep...I load heavy for calibre .357 and all my 44 mag with BD...excellent results.
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Re: Heavy hunting loads, .41 Magnum?

#15 Post by piller » Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:02 am

JerryB wrote:
Sun Sep 23, 2018 3:56 pm
CRS, look in the Old Testament.
A Magnum is also a size of Champagne bottle, and a Jeroboam is just a larger size than a Magnum. Kind of like how the .405 WCF is larger than the .41 Magnum.
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Re: Heavy hunting loads, .41 Magnum?

#16 Post by wolfdog » Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:06 am

215 grain cast over Unique has done fine for me on hogs up to 250 pounds out of 6 inch model 57 and Blackhawk. Have broken both shoulders and bullet passed through on 200 pound boar. Out of 1894 FG 210 grain XTPs shoot better and have worked well on several GA deer shot with them. Loaded over 296.

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#17 Post by 41 Redhawk » Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:54 am

I like Accurate Arms #9 in my 41.
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Re: Heavy hunting loads, .41 Magnum?

#18 Post by marlinman93 » Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:34 pm

Sorry, misread the post. deleted my .44 mag loads.
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Re: Heavy hunting loads, .41 Magnum?

#19 Post by Bill in Oregon » Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:52 pm

Piller, let us not forget the Balthazar, and the mighty 15-liter Nebuchadnezzar!

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#20 Post by piller » Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:39 pm

Bill in Oregon wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:52 pm
Piller, let us not forget the Balthazar, and the mighty 15-liter Nebuchadnezzar!

:lol:
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Re: Heavy hunting loads, .41 Magnum?

#21 Post by stretch » Tue Sep 25, 2018 6:26 pm

My loading notes list 19.8 gr. of H110 driving a 250gr. Cast Performance WFNGC hard
cast lead bullet. OAL was 1.550.

Initial testing put 8 out of 10 in a 2 5/8" group at 25 yards - 5 of these in 1 1/4".

A later test puts 3 in 3" at 50 yard with 19.5 gr. of H110.

This is a VERY stout load. I originally made these up for a moose hunt. 25 shots
in an afternoon is plenty for me. I imagine it'd kill anything it hit in North America
at 25 yards. :lol:

Unless I misread it, Paco lists 21gr. of H110 under a 270 gr. bullet in his article here:
http://www.leverguns.com/articles/paco/41heavy.htm. YOW!!!! :o :o :o

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Re: Heavy hunting loads, .41 Magnum?

#22 Post by Bill in Oregon » Wed Sep 26, 2018 7:42 am

Thanks Stretch. These loads quickly do get "rambunctious" in the Blackhawks, especially with aluminum grip frame ...

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Re: Heavy hunting loads, .41 Magnum?

#23 Post by GunnyMack » Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:05 am

21 of H110 bet that gets your attention out of 4&5/8" barrel!

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Re: Heavy hunting loads, .41 Magnum?

#24 Post by Bill in Oregon » Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:46 am

Wear a welder's mask -- especially if you shoot these loads approaching dusk ... :lol:

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Re: Heavy hunting loads, .41 Magnum?

#25 Post by GunnyMack » Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:19 am

Even better let someone else shoot them so you can stand back and video the muzzle blast and belching flames :D

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Re: Heavy hunting loads, .41 Magnum?

#26 Post by stretch » Wed Sep 26, 2018 12:39 pm

These loads quickly do get "rambunctious" in the Blackhawks, especially with aluminum grip frame ...
Yes, Bill - yes they do. :wink:

I didn't like the stock plastic grips. Too small and the plastic "checkering" just about tore the flesh off of my right palm.
So, I got some Hogue Mikarta grips. They looked great, but broke after about 10 rounds of the heavy loads. Then
I got a Hogue Monogrip. I think I have the XRED grip frame - anyway, I modified the grip frame slightly to allow
it to work. Fits okay now. The gun doesn't pivot in the hand under recoil, but the grip IS big enough and stable.
Maybe some day I'll carve some custom grips.....

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