Thinning Lee Liquid Alox?

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Thinning Lee Liquid Alox?

#1 Post by Bill in Oregon » Fri Sep 21, 2018 12:00 pm

I like this stuff as-is for handgun bullets. But I am wondering if it might be used, thinned, for lubing air rifle pellets. The guys on one of the airgun forums are using bicycle chain wax for this purpose. Just curious. My HW-97 already shoots pretty darned well, but the fool never lets well enough alone, as they say ... :lol:

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Re: Thinning Lee Liquid Alox?

#2 Post by BlaineG » Fri Sep 21, 2018 12:09 pm

It doesn't "gum up" the works, or combust due to the high compression?
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Re: Thinning Lee Liquid Alox?

#3 Post by Bill in Oregon » Fri Sep 21, 2018 12:29 pm

Blaine, hard to say without trying. Pretty hard to gum up the works breech-seating in a springer, but cutting the alox -- perhaps with mineral spirits? -- might eliminate blobs that could throw a tiny pellet off.

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#4 Post by Tycer » Fri Sep 21, 2018 12:38 pm

Mineral spirits. Try 50:50 to start.
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#5 Post by GunnyMack » Fri Sep 21, 2018 1:34 pm

Make sure its DRY , buddy of mine had oiled his RWS years ago and was a bit heavy with the lube. Next shot and like Blaine mentioned it turned into a little diesel engine -BOOM!

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Re: Thinning Lee Liquid Alox?

#6 Post by 3leggedturtle » Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:24 pm

I thin it with 10% spirits and dry them under a 60 watt light bulb. Coating should be so thin that you can hardly see it on the pellet. Imperial sizing wax works good too, but is a pain lubing each one by hand. YMMV Todd
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#7 Post by Rusty » Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:19 pm

I vote for the mineral spirits as well. I learned it from castboolit.com
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Re: Thinning Lee Liquid Alox?

#8 Post by Bronco » Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:09 pm

Maybe try cutting it with silicone oil. I was oiling my springer once and as I was handling it my thumb rubbed across the rubber seal at the breach, Now my thumb was not dripping with oil but had a film on it. That was enough to make the next shot sound like a 22 long. Luckily no damage! Anything that has mineral in the name would give be cause to approach with caution.
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Re: Thinning Lee Liquid Alox?

#9 Post by BlaineG » Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:33 pm

There's a big difference. In a regular rifle, there is no space between the power source and the bullet. In an air rifle there is plenty of space and the substance will diesel if it's combustable.
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Re: Thinning Lee Liquid Alox?

#10 Post by EdinCT » Fri Sep 21, 2018 7:47 pm

I use Rooster jacket on my powder coated bullets by putting a few drops in a sandwich bag and then rolling my bullets around and pouring them onto parchment paper to dry. I bet it would lube your pellets well also.

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Re: Thinning Lee Liquid Alox?

#11 Post by Hawkeye2 » Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:25 pm

Ok Bill lubing airgun pellets slunds like something I should try but why thin the Lee lube as opposed to just using it straight? Would it leave a coating that's too thick if it wasn't thined?

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Re: Thinning Lee Liquid Alox?

#12 Post by Bill in Oregon » Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:02 am

Hawkeye, that is my concern. It is one thing to have a thick spot of alox on a 250-grain Keith bullet, and quite another to have a blob on the skirt of an 8.4-grain JSB Exact. This is all very nearly theoretical, as it is only the more meticulous shooters who bother to wash and lube their pellets -- and some brands apparently don't need this. I'm going to mess with it and see if there is a discernable difference.

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Re: Thinning Lee Liquid Alox?

#13 Post by mikld » Sat Sep 22, 2018 10:20 am

I too would thin with mineral spirits. The mineral spirits will evaporate leaving a thin film of alox, and not enough left to combust/diesel under pressure. Ever consider a dry lube? Like graphite or mica?
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Re: Thinning Lee Liquid Alox?

#14 Post by Bill in Oregon » Sat Sep 22, 2018 11:00 am

Mike, I have not, but mainly because I have not seen dry lube for pellets mentioned on the airgun forums. I am not concerned with dieseling in the barrel. Normally this only occurs in the spring compression chamber when volatile oils have been left behind -- and I'm not using any.

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Re: Thinning Lee Liquid Alox?

#15 Post by piller » Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:39 pm

I am curious about what results you get. Mineral spirits should dry and all the volatile parts evaporate with the heat of a 60 watt bulb. Mineral oil is different, and I don't know if it would work. Since it doesn't really evaporate---it might be better to leave it alone. Just a guess. I have lubed my spring piston airgun with evaporative teflon spray. I spray it on and leave it to dry in the summer sun for 8 hours. Never an indication of any dieseling yet. Summer sun in Texas can mean 100 degrees F for 4 hours or more. That is enough to evaporate most anything.
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