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Picked up two 'new' 38-55's (photos)

#1 Post by KirkD » Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:43 pm

Over the past month or so, I've picked up two vintage 38-55's. I bought both of these for the purpose of shooting and hunting, so did not want a high-condition rifle. I've not had these two to the range yet, and plan to wait until it warms up a bit. The first is full octagon Model 1894 in a solid 80% condition that was made in 1904. I've mounted an original period tang sight. The serial number is 224,924 and it's all original except for the copper blade on the front sight. I don't think Winchester made copper blades as far as I know.

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The second is what appears to be a deluxe Model 1894 with fancy wood, H-checkering, button mag, Marbles ivory bead front sight, and a standard Winchester flat-top rear sight. The serial number is 919,419, it was made in 1920, and the barrel date is '20'. Like most 1920's receivers and forehand caps, the blue got lost/flaked very fast. The bore is outstanding, even immediately ahead of the chamber throat. I would rate it at 9+ out of 10, were '10' is reserved for virtually mint rifles. I bought this rifle feeling a little doubtful it was original, since the wood was so nice (except for a tiny chip out of the toe of the buttstock). However, when I took the wood off, it had the usual 100 years of dried oil and crud that one would expect.

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#2 Post by Nath » Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:52 pm

Full marks for class our friend. :D

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#3 Post by JerryB » Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:56 pm

Reckon you done well Kirk, either one of those should bring down one of your big White Tails.
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#4 Post by M. M. Wright » Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:15 pm

Outstanding! Isn't 38-55 considered good medicine for anything up to moose? I've never owned one but would not feel undergunned in any situation.
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#5 Post by Rusty » Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:42 pm

Those are beautiful Kirk! Congratulations.
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#6 Post by OldWin » Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:44 pm

Just beautiful :D. I have 5 38-55 94's. It's my favorite 94 chambering. Love the deluxe. :mrgreen:
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#7 Post by KirkD » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:11 pm

Glad you fellows are enjoying these old vintage rifles. I would not want to be without a 38-55.
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#8 Post by Griff » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:17 pm

Love 'em both!
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#9 Post by Tanqueray » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:54 pm

Well you’ve made me a jealous man! I love the pre model 94 1894s, and would especially love one in 38-55.
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#10 Post by ollogger » Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:23 pm

Kirk, you always show some classy old Winchesters, very nice indeed!!
can you find that quality of guns close to home? I know around here its next to impossible to find them in that shape



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#11 Post by 30-30 » Sat Feb 10, 2018 12:29 am

KirkD -- those are two very nice Winchester's...the 38-55 cartridge has always intrigued me... :)
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#12 Post by gamekeeper » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:31 am

Kirk, those two rifles could not have found a better home, well done and looking forward to the range report.
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#13 Post by Griff » Sat Feb 10, 2018 6:28 am

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Kirk, you always show some classy old Winchesters, very nice indeed!!can you find that quality of guns close to home? I know around here its next to impossible to find them in that shape
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#14 Post by Pitchy » Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:23 am

Crazy nice rifles Kirk, congrats on getting them and thanks for showing them. 8) :)
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#15 Post by KirkD » Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:43 am

I've had a couple 98% 38-55's but sold them because they just didn't seem to have much history to them. These, I like because they've done some work. Now to hunt down a nice 38-40.
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#16 Post by 3855 » Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:50 am

Beautiful examples of what quality products Winchester could offer. Showing a bit of honest use, documenting their experiences through time. Rifles with fancy wood and checkering without pistol grips are kind of a rare bird. Nicely done Kirk.
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#17 Post by .45colt » Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:17 am

Very Nice Kirk, I've been wondering what You were up to. :D . I have a new to Me 44-40 and I researched Your loads hopefully I'll be trying them out this spring.

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#18 Post by DaveInPA » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:16 pm

Wow those are nice.

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#19 Post by Carlsen Highway » Sun Feb 11, 2018 2:20 am

Deeply impressed with both of those. The deluxe version - I have never seen a period 1894 rifle of such class.
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#20 Post by marlinman93 » Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:24 am

Both really fine examples, and in very honest condition too from what I see! Congratulations!
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#21 Post by KWK » Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:31 am

That second one is very shapely! Pity the blueing, but still a catch.

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#22 Post by KirkD » Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:39 pm

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Deeply impressed with both of those. The deluxe version - I have never seen a period 1894 rifle of such class.
I think what does it for me is the straight grip. The deluxe pistol grips are nice, but for me there is something extra fine about the straight grip in fancy wood with checkering.
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#23 Post by OldWin » Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:46 pm

KirkD wrote:
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Deeply impressed with both of those. The deluxe version - I have never seen a period 1894 rifle of such class.
I think what does it for me is the straight grip. The deluxe pistol grips are nice, but for me there is something extra fine about the straight grip in fancy wood with checkering.
I agree Kirk. Having grown up with "poor man", straight grip Winchesters, I prefer them to the pistol grips. They just shoulder and point better for me.
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#24 Post by Pete44ru » Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:57 pm

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Very nice, Kirk !

I wonder if that copper front sight blade was fashioned from a US Indian Head penny...... :?:


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#25 Post by KirkD » Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:27 pm

Pete44ru wrote:
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I wonder if that copper front sight blade was fashioned from a US Indian Head penny...... :?:
I was wondering something similar myself. The length of the blade makes it too long for a standard sized penny, but this Winchester is a Canadian one, and we used "Large Cents" up until 1920 (see http://www.calgarycoin.com/modern/cdcent.htm ), so it might be made from a Canadian Large Cent. Both sides are smooth, however, so I can't make out any distinguishing features. Whoever mounted it in the original front sight did a very good job ... no sign of crimping the slot together at all, as if it came from the factory that way. I plan to leave that front sight the way it is, as it is a nice job and part of the history of the rifle.
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#26 Post by marlinman93 » Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:11 pm

A deluxe checkered stock on a straight grip is more unusual than it would be on a pistol grip stock.
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#27 Post by hfcable » Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:40 pm

that deluxe in that caliber ... well ..WOW!! it doesnt get much better

hunting with a rifle like that is a special pleasure. i have a ‘ semi-deluxe ‘ 1894 with almost same configuration in 38/55 made in 1895 ... went out with it and shot 2 running caribou out of group running past me —- like being back in the gold rush days

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#28 Post by Rube Burrows » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:16 pm

Two very beautiful rifles. The top one is the style I fancy more but both beautiful nonetheless.

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#29 Post by 6pt-sika » Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:14 pm

Very nice I like them both !

But that one with the button mag really talks to me :wink:
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#30 Post by EdinCT » Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:00 pm

Kirk, Looks like you hit the jackpot! I can certainly appreciate honest rifles and the deluxe is one that trips my trigger. It has enough use where a little more is guilt free.
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