Unusual 1892--25-20

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Unusual 1892--25-20

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What caught my eye of the '92 is that it has a pistol grip and curved lever. Also, didn't have my tape measure, but I think it also had a 26" barrel. Was the pistol grip a common option? Think its the first I have seen. Receiver has little finish and is quite pitted
Bad news was the bore isn't very good.
Sure wish it was a 32-20.

What would something like this be worth?? Don't know if I want to take a chance on the bore though. I do have a '92 that was pretty junky when I got it(1970) and had it re-lined in 25-20, by a V.M. Starr from IIRC, Eden, S.D. and cold blued it and refinished the wood. Don't know why I think I need another, except for the pistol grip!!!
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Re: Unusual 1892--25-20

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The Winchester Model 1892/92 Rifle was available as Deluxe Model, with a 24" bbl & a checkered PG stock (and lever, naturally).

If the barrel is actually 26", only a Cody Letter can confirm how it left the Winchester warehouse.

The values for a Model 1892/92 Deluxe Model run from $800 (+/-) in 10% original issue condition, to $3500 (+/-) in 95% original condition.


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That sounds to me to a Model 65.
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JerryB wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2017 10:26 pm That sounds to me to a Model 65.
Or a 53?
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I reckon we are going to have to wait for Thunder 50 to get back on line to see what he has. It has to be a Model 53 or a Model 65, one or the other.
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By S/N it shows a 1915 mfg date, so when did the other two models begin production?
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Re: Unusual 1892--25-20

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Thunder50 wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2017 6:19 pm What caught my eye of the '92 is that it has a pistol grip and curved lever. Also, didn't have my tape measure, but I think it also had a 26" barrel. Was the pistol grip a common option? Think its the first I have seen. Receiver has little finish and is quite pitted
Bad news was the bore isn't very good.
Sure wish it was a 32-20.

What would something like this be worth?? Don't know if I want to take a chance on the bore though. I do have a '92 that was pretty junky when I got it(1970) and had it re-lined in 25-20, by a V.M. Starr from IIRC, Eden, S.D. and cold blued it and refinished the wood. Don't know why I think I need another, except for the pistol grip!!!
Good morning,

Yes, the Winchester Model 1892 was available with a pistol grip on either a standard crescent stock, a carbine stock, of a shotgun style butt. In addition, the grade of wood, various checkering designs, and wether the pistol grip was a simple or capped style could be chosen. All of these options cost varying amounts and result in different present day valuations. The standard barrel length for a sporting rifle was 24 inches, though lengths from 14 to 36 inches could also be special ordered. Barrels were most commonly octagon shaped but round or half round/half octagon could be ordered.

The Model 53 was introduced during 1924 and had its own unique serialization sequence at that time. During 1927 the Model 53 production was integrated into the Model 92 serial number sequence around SN 962000. Therefore, there is no way this is a Model 53 rifle. The Model 65 was introduced during 1932 in the 993000 serial number range. So again no chance it is a 65.

If you will post several photos and the serial number I will be happy to take a look at the rifle for you and answer any questions. I am conducting a research survey of these rifle and have cataloged just over 10,700 individual examples.
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Well I reckon twobit will have the answer when he sees the pictures and serial number. I was hoping he would see this post.
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Just will have to see if they will let me take pics. I believe it is a capped pistol grip. PM sent to "twobit"
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Thunder50 wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2017 6:19 pmBad news was the bore isn't very good. Sure wish it was a 32-20.
Then just rebore it for .32-20!
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thought greatly about a re-bore or reline on the rifle. Went back and measured, its a 24" barrel, but does have a capped pistol grip. They were kind of busy and the gun is in a room of unusual guns and mounted near the ceiling, on the wall, so no decent pics
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Re: Unusual 1892--25-20

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Thunder50,

Thanks for the SN. The rifle was manufactured during 1915. Was the butt stock a standard rifle stock with a pistol grip or a shotgun butt with pistol grip? Do you recall if it was a take down frame or solid frame gun. ALL of the sporting rifles which I have seen in that SN range are take downs. Most are either 25-20 or 32 WCF caliber.

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Re: Unusual 1892--25-20

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It was a standard rifle stock and a solid frame gun, not take down.
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Re: Unusual 1892--25-20

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Thunder50 wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2017 11:48 am It was a standard rifle stock and a solid frame gun, not take down.
Thanks so much for the info. I am surprised it is a solid frame gun.

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