Favorite Powder - 30-30 cast 173 gr

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Favorite Powder - 30-30 cast 173 gr

#1 Post by JohndeFresno » Sun May 18, 2008 2:33 am

Every rifle is different, etc., etc... But what do you think is the ONE best powder for moderately fast, accurate all around 30-30 loads with the 173 Gr. Lyman 311041 FN, lubed, gas checked bullet?

I'll probably use the most popular "vote" to start up some experimental loads for my levergun that leans toward accuracy versus something that travels at 4200 fps and wears out the barrel in three shots (slight exaggeration, of course)! :)

This is for deer or piggies, where I can shoot the lead rounds.

My powder candidates for this caliber and load, so far (I have the last two on the shelf):
IMR 3031
IMR 4895
BL-C(2)

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#2 Post by WCF3030 » Sun May 18, 2008 6:12 am

I've been using 28gr of H-335 or 9.5gr of Unique with large pistol primers, Lee lube, and cast from WW for the Lyman bullet with great success from my MicMarlin and H&R. Sized to .309dia

Very consistent groups and clean burning, little to no lead easy on brass.
I've shot 285rds Since the 1st of April with the H-335 powder, just under 400rds with the Unique last fall and this spring. Works well on small game, clean hole through.
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#3 Post by Marc » Sun May 18, 2008 7:50 am

I have been using 28 grains of IMR4895 with the RCBS 150 FN and it shoots very good. I tried 26 grains with the RCBS 180 FN and it shows promise. I shot a 4-1/2" five shot group at 100 yards Friday. The mold casts a bit undersize and the 180 hasn't shot real well in two other rifles so I think it will do better with a larger diameter bullet. The other problem is that me shooting open sights at 100 yards is more an eye test than a rifle test! This is in a 20" Winchester 94.

I tried BL-C(2) a few years ago but I don't remember how it did. If it had done well I would probably remember! But every rifle is an individual.

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#4 Post by Bob A » Sun May 18, 2008 8:25 am

I have been working on the same problem for the last 2 months. So far, Reloader 7 has given me the best results. I'm planning to try 4198 next but only because I have some availalbe. The Re 7 looks like a winner.

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#5 Post by jlchucker » Sun May 18, 2008 8:56 am

this is my favorite 30-30 bullet. Mostly I load it with 24.5 gr Reloder 7. Lately I have been trying some xmp5744 and they show a lot of promise. It seems to me that xmp5744 loads may be as accurate, and produce a bit lighter recoil, for some reason, load for load. I'm still working on a favorite load with this powder.

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#6 Post by Don McDowell » Sun May 18, 2008 9:23 am

18 grs of 5744 works real well for me with a 179 gr cast bullet, good accuracy and 1800 fps.

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#7 Post by w30wcf » Sun May 18, 2008 10:47 am

John,
Of the powders you listed BLC2 would get my vote. It's a very good powder for the .30-30. 30 grs. should give you very good results :D = a factory load if your bullets are at least 16 bhn.

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#8 Post by GANJIRO » Sun May 18, 2008 11:59 am

I'm still in the experimenting stage as far as cast loads for the 30-30 but so far my favorite powders are 3031, Reloader-7, and 748.

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#9 Post by Lefty Dude » Sun May 18, 2008 12:31 pm

I use 20 grains of Alliant reloader 7, federal match primers & Remington cases W/ 170 gr. laser-cast gas check bullet.

This load will knock down the Rams at 175 meters, guaranteed.

And buy the way is very accurate in a 20" BB classic as well as my 26" octagon barreled Winchester Legacy.

I also use 5744 powder for light loads to ring steel at 200 yards for Cowboy Long range side matches. About 11 grains does the trick. The starting load on the Accurate web-site is 11.3 grains. This is a very accurate load but not a power load.
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#10 Post by Last Spike » Sun May 18, 2008 12:41 pm

Thought provoking question, but my answer would be whatever powder shoots best in your particular gun.

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#11 Post by Chuck 100 yd » Sun May 18, 2008 2:35 pm

18gr IMR 4198 gives 1595 fps and is very accurate.
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#12 Post by WCF3030 » Sun May 18, 2008 2:43 pm

Chuck,

All that shows me is that you missed the "X" 3 times in a row. :wink:
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#13 Post by jdad » Sun May 18, 2008 3:23 pm

This isn't a cast load, but I use 30gr of 748 under a Speer 179gr JFP, as my silhouette load.

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#14 Post by Jaguarundi » Sun May 18, 2008 4:22 pm

Last Spike wrote:Thought provoking question, but my answer would be whatever powder shoots best in your particular gun.
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#15 Post by JohndeFresno » Mon May 19, 2008 8:17 pm

Thanks, y'all.

I realize that each firearm is different, but I wanted a consensus of a more or less universal powder for a somewhat universal, inexpensive lead .30-30 bullet - for a variety of reasons - a medium range load that works safely and reasonably well with most 30-30's in a pinch.

Your valuable input is archived. Thank you again!
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#16 Post by 1886 » Mon May 19, 2008 8:32 pm

I have had great luck in several .30-30s with 25.5grs of Varget or 2495 with #311041 with Rem. 2 1/2 primers. Good luck. 1886.

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#17 Post by woods-walker » Mon May 19, 2008 9:16 pm

This is my prefered cast bullet for the .30wcf and I use W748 powder. I have had excellent results with W748 with this cast bullet and several varieties of jacketed bullets.
I have found that the Lyman #311041 performs very well in my Winchester 94's in both accuracy and in performance in the field on Whitetail Deer.

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Re: Favorite Powder - 30-30 cast 173 gr

#18 Post by JohndeFresno » Sun Oct 12, 2008 3:51 am

Thanks, all.

I have a lot to work with, now!
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Re: Favorite Powder - 30-30 cast 173 gr

#19 Post by 20cows » Sun Oct 12, 2008 5:50 am

I really like 748 with a cast bullet in .30-30 as well.

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Re: Favorite Powder - 30-30 cast 173 gr

#20 Post by Hobie » Sun Oct 12, 2008 8:34 am

I've been using 8-10 gr. of IMR SR4759 under 140-180 gr. cast in my Contender .30-30. Velocity is in the 1100 fps range.
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Re: Favorite Powder - 30-30 cast 173 gr

#21 Post by 1886 » Sun Oct 12, 2008 8:53 am

25.5 grs of Varget ignited by CCI BR-2 primers. Not a velocity champ load but fast enough and SUPER accurate out of 3 .30-30 rifles that I have owned. 1886.

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Re: Favorite Powder - 30-30 cast 173 gr

#22 Post by JohndeFresno » Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:09 am

Wow - I guess my "final" reply bumped this to the top and gathered some more great info. Thanx, 20vacas, Hobie, and 1886 for the additional loads. This should be enough info to get ANYBODY started on a great load for the classic 30-30 round, since we have a lot of different powders represented here (and a few that surprised me). I'm going to print these posts to a file for my "30_30" directory.

Thank you again.
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Re: Favorite Powder - 30-30 cast 173 gr

#23 Post by 1886 » Sun Oct 12, 2008 12:53 pm

One more for the library, 25.5 grs of 2495 torched by CCI BR-2 primers may be great as well. 2495 is an often over looked but great cast powder esp. in .45-70, .45-90, .38-55. Has worked great in the .30-30 too. Regards, 1886.

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#24 Post by JohndeFresno » Sun Oct 12, 2008 4:57 pm

Tks, '86!
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Re: Favorite Powder - 30-30 cast 173 gr

#25 Post by Sixgun » Sun Oct 12, 2008 5:32 pm

21 gr. of 5744 with a 175 gr. Saeco tapered gas check bullet sized .311. I shoot this load out of 8 or 10 30-30's. Its good for about 1800-----------Sixgun
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Re: Favorite Powder - 30-30 cast 173 gr

#26 Post by 44LVR » Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:49 pm

The Lyman 311041 is my favorite also. They weigh 175grs for me and I size them .311. 27grs 3031 gives me 1 1/2" groups @ 100 yards. Don't know the velocity :o

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