327 Henry

GunnyMack · Post by **GunnyMack** » Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:55 am

I know a few of you guys mentioned you were getting a 327 Henry, haven't seen any reports yet.

So have you guys received them yet? How do they shoot? What kind of velocities are you getting?

Nate Kiowa Jones · Post by **Nate Kiowa Jones** » Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:53 pm

I just this week received two of the big boys in 327 RM. This is the brass like receiver version with the 20" octagon barrel. I haven't had time to even shoot it. But, the plan is to see if I can work up a load to be used for the NRA pistol cal. Leveraction Silhouette game.
This gun is really front heavy but for the game that is a plus. We'll see.

piller · Post by **piller** » Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:56 pm

Still trying to get one. I need to get with my LGS and make sure my name is still on the list to have them order it for me.

BenT · Post by **BenT** » Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:35 pm

I have a steel 20 inch on order.

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:19 am

I had quite a bit of interest in them early on but Henry has been so slow in bringing them out I've kind of lost the interest I had. Almost thinking, what's up?

GunnyMack · Post by **GunnyMack** » Thu Nov 02, 2017 3:56 am

Ok that answers my questions, but now why is Henry taking SO long!?...

I would still like to hear shooting results whenever you guys get a chance.
This is a back burner gun for me...

Nate Kiowa Jones · Post by **Nate Kiowa Jones** » Thu Nov 02, 2017 1:51 pm

GunnyMack wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2017 3:56 am Ok that answers my questions, but now why is Henry taking SO long!?...

I would still like to hear shooting results whenever you guys get a chance.
This is a back burner gun for me...

I do know they had to wait on some parts to finish the two I just got. They had shipped the first batch sometimes in the spring and it appears they all sold quickly. But, like most of the manufacturers they have limited machining equipment, so to make another batch right away would require shutting down the equipment and re-tooling back to the 327 mag. These production schedules are planned ahead and very seldom changed.

.45colt · Post by **.45colt** » Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:05 pm

My duty on this forum from time to time is to act as an en-abler to assist others to achieve there lofty goals. That being said I nominate You Gunny to get one and report back to the rest.

.https://www.kygunco.com/Product/View?ItemNo=118652

GunnyMack · Post by **GunnyMack** » Fri Nov 03, 2017 4:46 am

Ah 45 colt I would love to BUT I'm in search mode for a Parker 20 gauge at the moment...

Old Dave · Post by **Old Dave** » Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:11 pm

For you guys that know about these things, wouldn't one of these .327 rifles make a great turkey gun where they're allowed?

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:33 pm

I have the brass Big Boy in .357....it's awfully heavy, and the metal butt slippery, but a really good shooter. The 16.5" Steel would be a better fit for me.

Nath · Post by **Nath** » Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:50 pm

Yeah but, why but.....how is it better than 32-20 or 357?

N.

AJMD429 · Post by **AJMD429** » Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:52 pm

I'm lucky enough to have a Marlin 1894 in 32-20, so will stick with that, but the 327 would be nice....!

I think the older but tapered 'hyphenated' cartridges feed more reliably through levergun though, so if price and availability were the same, I'd want a set of 44-40, 38-40, and 32-20 for my 'short-action' leverguns, instead of 44 Mag, 357 Mag, and 327 Mag.... However the real-world made it easier to have the 'modern' versions of the first two.

piller · Post by **piller** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:40 am

Nath wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:50 pm Yeah but, why but.....how is it better than 32-20 or 357?

N.

The .327 shoots the same diameter bullet as does the .32-20, but at a higher pressure out of a straight wall case. The .327 gives higher velocities. It probably does not feed as well as the old tapered case, but it is a delight to reload. Of the 11 cartridges which I reload, the .327 is the easiest.

earlmck · Post by **earlmck** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 1:02 am

If I were to spring for a new rifle it would be for something shooting this .327 Federal. What a lovely thing: a 32/20 made of very durable brass that sizes with a carbide sizer. Sweet!

Nath · Post by **Nath** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 3:50 am

earlmck wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2017 1:02 am If I were to spring for a new rifle it would be for something shooting this .327 Federal. What a lovely thing: a 32/20 made of very durable brass that sizes with a carbide sizer. Sweet!

Good points, never thought of that.

N.

2ndovc · Post by **2ndovc** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 7:52 am

I really enjoy my Single Seven in .327 Fed. Like Earl and Piller say, it's super easy to reload and a very accurate little cartridge. What I'm most interested in is will the Henry feed the .32 Short, Long and H&R Magnum. Not that I'm giving up my .32WCF 92s anytime soon.

But I'm looking forward to getting my hands on one.

jb

AJMD429 · Post by **AJMD429** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 10:21 am

If 327 Mag brass is like 32 H&R brass, it definitely is sturdier than 32-20 brass. You gotz ta be very extra-careful not to crush the mouth of 32-20 cases.

vancelw · Post by **vancelw** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 8:49 pm

piller wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:40 am
Nath wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:50 pm Yeah but, why but.....how is it better than 32-20 or 357?

N.
The .327 shoots the same diameter bullet as does the .32-20, but at a higher pressure out of a straight wall case. The .327 gives higher velocities. It probably does not feed as well as the old tapered case, but it is a delight to reload. Of the 11 cartridges which I reload, the .327 is the easiest.

Look again. .32-20 HV loads out of a rifle are much faster than .327 Federal. Granted, the. 327 loads are out of a pistol and the .32-20 are out of a rifle, so the velocity will be closer but still.....

To me, the only advantage of a .327 is you can shoot shorter .312 calibers and no one is currently making a .32-20 double action revolver that will handle the HV loads. The shorter .312s would probably not feed well though the .327 rifle.

JerryB · Post by **JerryB** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 10:05 pm

My 1917 Winchester 92 rifle with the 24 inch barrel just dearly loves to spit out those 85grain XTP bullets over that load of 2400 powder. It is a fine load, took out a mad Rottweiler bitch dog at about 50 yards. She was coming after us in a pasture full of cattle, and the man that owned them said hit if could she had cost him a couple of calves. That little bullet did what it was supposed to do. Reckon that a .327 would too, maybe but I know what the 32wcf will do.

piller · Post by **piller** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 10:13 pm

http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/327mag.html

And these are with powders optimized for pistols. Since the rifle loads for the .327 are not yet available, this is about the closest way to compare apples to apples. Seems to show some very similar velocities. As soon as the load data for the .327 is available for rifles, we should be able to do a more realistic comparison.

AJMD429 · Post by **AJMD429** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 10:39 pm

vancelw wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2017 8:49 pm. . . . and no one is currently making a .32-20 double action revolver that will handle the HV loads.

If I win the lottery I WILL have a Ruger SP-101 in 32-20 custom made....!

vancelw · Post by **vancelw** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 10:49 pm

Same here. I already have the SP101 in .327. Just need to find someone to do the work .

vancelw · Post by **vancelw** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 10:51 pm

piller wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2017 10:13 pm http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/327mag.html

And these are with powders optimized for pistols. Since the rifle loads for the .327 are not yet available, this is about the closest way to compare apples to apples. Seems to show some very similar velocities. As soon as the load data for the .327 is available for rifles, we should be able to do a more realistic comparison.

Yes, their theoretical charts show the velocity getting close, as it should with similar charge weight and barrel lenght.
You also have to remember than Hornady is consistently conservative with their published data.

piller · Post by **piller** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 10:59 pm

It will be fun finding out what the ballistics end at.

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 3:53 am

I'm just waiting for Ruger to come out with a 77/327.

AJMD429 · Post by **AJMD429** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 11:12 am

Rusty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2017 3:53 am I'm just waiting for Ruger to come out with a 77/327.

.....Or a 96/327......

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 11:44 am

A 96/327 would be great but that would require a complete resurrection. At least the pistol caliber M 77s are still being made. Ruger is going to announce a new firearm tomorrow so at least there's hope.

RIHMFIRE · Post by **RIHMFIRE** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 10:56 pm

AJMD429 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:52 pm I'm lucky enough to have a Marlin 1894 in 32-20, so will stick with that, but the 327 would be nice....!

I think the older but tapered 'hyphenated' cartridges feed more reliably through levergun though, so if price and availability were the same, I'd want a set of 44-40, 38-40, and 32-20 for my 'short-action' leverguns, instead of 44 Mag, 357 Mag, and 327 Mag.... However the real-world made it easier to have the 'modern' versions of the first two.

OH come on! you need one of each!

KWK · Post by **KWK** » Thu Dec 28, 2017 4:15 pm

Paco's .32-20 article lists numerous loads at the pressure of the .30 Carbine. This will match any .327 Federal loads.

Thicker brass and carbide dies, though, make the .327 easier to reload.

If the .327 doesn't take off, brass may become a concern in long run.

piller · Post by **piller** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:55 pm

That new PC carbine would be a lot of fun in .327 magnum.

vancelw · Post by **vancelw** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:10 pm

piller wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:55 pm That new PC carbine would be a lot of fun in .327 magnum.

Be a pain in a rimmed cartridge. Now 10mm.....

Nate Kiowa Jones · Post by **Nate Kiowa Jones** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 11:04 pm

I case anyone is interested I just received two of the blue steel 16.5" round barrel carbines.

I have them at $695 shipped.

Ray · Post by **Ray** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 11:40 pm

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Nate Kiowa Jones · Post by **Nate Kiowa Jones** » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:57 am

Ray wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2017 11:40 pm
Nate Kiowa Jones wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2017 11:04 pm I case anyone is interested I just received two of the blue steel 16.5" round barrel carbines.
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Old Dave · Post by **Old Dave** » Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:02 am

I just ordered a birdshead grip Single Seven .327. I'll bet I will be wanting a rifle soon enough.

vancelw · Post by **vancelw** » Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:58 pm

Old Dave wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:02 am I just ordered a birdshead grip Single Seven .327. I'll bet I will be wanting a rifle soon enough.

Let us know how that revolver works.
I have an SP101 in .327 and it has more blowback that any revolver I have ever had. Makes it not so fun to shoot.

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:36 pm

Vance, what is the barrel/cylinder gap like?

vancelw · Post by **vancelw** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:19 pm

Rusty wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:36 pm Vance, what is the barrel/cylinder gap like?

0.010" will pass all the way through, between the front of the cylinder and the forcing cone. 0.018 will enter the left side. Which, me being right handed, is the side directed at me. I really don't know what pressure the Factory Federal Ammo runs, but I'm guessing it's near 40K.
I have not shot reduced loads or lesser cartridges through this, yet.

piller · Post by **piller** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:08 pm

Never measured it, but PillHer's SP101 in .327 has no noticeable blow-by. I could be wrong, but it sounds as if you might have a factory error.

vancelw · Post by **vancelw** » Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:06 pm

piller wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:08 pm Never measured it, but PillHer's SP101 in .327 has no noticeable blow-by. I could be wrong, but it sounds as if you might have a factory error.

I would tend to agree with you, but a trusted friend said the worst blowback revolver he ever owned was a .327 Mag. Not sure which version he had.
I may need to check the forcing cone and see what it mikes out to. Haven't really had time to play with this one much.

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:15 am

Yea, I'm thinking that's about twie what it should be.

Ray · Post by **Ray** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:36 am

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BenT · Post by **BenT** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:01 pm

Just picked up mine from my buddys toy store this morning. Was waiting for a big boy steel in 20 inch. But last week he said he can get one in 16 inch. I told him to get it. I wanted the 16 but didn't like the big loop,but I figure if I don't like I will order the regular lever from Henry .It showed up and I am glad I got the 16 inch , it balances nice. I will break it in tomorrow.