Henry Original 44/40
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Henry Original 44/40
Has anyone had any experience with these? I'd like to get one (I think) But the price is a little steep. They sure do look nice though.
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Re: Henry Original 44/40
Fin Fur & Feather in Ashland Ohio had two of them last fall. one had been bought new from them and returned a month later by an old Gentleman. who needed the cash. the new one was if I rember correctly was $1900 the used one $1500. I looked at the "new" one and worked the action . the quality was outstanding and the action worked as smooth as butter. very impressive.
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Re: Henry Original 44/40
From what I hear and read they are great....but you can buy an Uberti Henry for about half of that. Don't know if they're THAT good.
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Re: Henry Original 44/40
These are like $40-50 grand, no? Maybe I'm misinterpretting the use of the word "original" in the subject line.
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Re: Henry Original 44/40
Henry Repeating Arms is making a 1860 Henry replica they call the "Original".
http://www.henryrifles.com/rifles/the-henry-original/
http://www.henryrifles.com/rifles/the-henry-original/
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Re: Henry Original 44/40
Okay, that doesn't really make sense, but I understand where it's coming from now.
How does it compare to the Uberti Henry in the same caliber? At least one extremely good shooter uses the Uberti version of these to win regional championships and set CLA records. I like the looks of them and I can't afford and original original.
How does it compare to the Uberti Henry in the same caliber? At least one extremely good shooter uses the Uberti version of these to win regional championships and set CLA records. I like the looks of them and I can't afford and original original.
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Re: Henry Original 44/40
Think about it, was an original Henry chambered in .44 rimfire OR 44-40??????????
Reckon my post came a little late, oh well.
Reckon my post came a little late, oh well.
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Re: Henry Original 44/40
Howdy,
I have had one for awhile... Love it... Shoots well.. Using 8.5 gr Unique, 205 gr RNFP, Starline..
Paul
I have had one for awhile... Love it... Shoots well.. Using 8.5 gr Unique, 205 gr RNFP, Starline..
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Re: Henry Original 44/40
http://www.gunblast.com/Henry.htm
Brent, I've never gotten to handle a new Henry Repeating Arms Original. They've only been out about a year. I do have an Uberti Henry transitional model. I have no real complaints about it. I would have a hard time recommending that anyone spend an extra thousand dollars for the Henry Repeating Arms brand name.
Brent, I've never gotten to handle a new Henry Repeating Arms Original. They've only been out about a year. I do have an Uberti Henry transitional model. I have no real complaints about it. I would have a hard time recommending that anyone spend an extra thousand dollars for the Henry Repeating Arms brand name.
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Re: Henry Original 44/40
Pet peeve: the use of "original" when referring to the Henry Rifle Co's 1860 reproduction (also to their use of the name Henry and associating themselves with the 1860 product). This is not to knock their products which are excellent. Their offering is in no way original, nor is the Uberti. They are both offered in calibers that the true original Henry never was and the actions have been lengthened to accommodate the newer cartridges. They are at best a reasonable facsimile and I'm sure no one would buy a new made .44 rimfire today. Let's just call them what they are: a modern reproduction. There seems to be too much confusion out there among the less knowledgeable regarding the Henry company and the 1860 Henry and its copies by any manufacturer. Now that my rant is over I'll have to say I wish I had the $$ to buy one, probably a Uberti.
Re: Henry Original 44/40
I think many believe that being marked "Henry's Repeating Arms" makes them just like the originals (if not by the "original" company, which some believe). There was no Henry Repeating Arms Company. The original guns made in 1860-'65 were made by the New Haven Arms Co., which was changed to Winchester Repeating Arms for the new version brought out in 1866.Hawkeye2 wrote:Pet peeve: the use of "original" when referring to the Henry Rifle Co's 1860 reproduction (also to their use of the name Henry and associating themselves with the 1860 product). This is not to knock their products which are excellent. Their offering is in no way original, nor is the Uberti. They are both offered in calibers that the true original Henry never was and the actions have been lengthened to accommodate the newer cartridges. They are at best a reasonable facsimile and I'm sure no one would buy a new made .44 rimfire today. Let's just call them what they are: a modern reproduction. There seems to be too much confusion out there among the less knowledgeable regarding the Henry company and the 1860 Henry and its copies by any manufacturer. Now that my rant is over I'll have to say I wish I had the $$ to buy one, probably a Uberti.
Having said that, if one wants one, thats plenty of reason to buy one. Many cant justify the cost of a Miroku Winchester/Browning, but I cant imagine not getting one compared to an import.
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Re: Henry Original 44/40
Well-made, reliable, decently accurate, and the price reflects the costs of making that gun in the US the way Henry does it.
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Re: Henry Original 44/40
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It would be worth the extra money to me to:
(1) Buy American
(2) be able to obtain local (USA) service from a company noted for excellence
and
(3) obtain a CF Henry M-1860 that was w/o bore size issues like some Italian imports have had.
BUT, since I don't have the money, I've stated moot points.
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It would be worth the extra money to me to:
(1) Buy American
(2) be able to obtain local (USA) service from a company noted for excellence
and
(3) obtain a CF Henry M-1860 that was w/o bore size issues like some Italian imports have had.
BUT, since I don't have the money, I've stated moot points.
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Re: Henry Original 44/40
All of the "original" Henry's that were made in the 1860's were 44 Rimfire as well as the 1866 Winchesters.JerryB wrote:Think about it, was an original Henry chambered in .44 rimfire OR 44-40??????????
Reckon my post came a little late, oh well.
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Re: Henry Original 44/40
I was probably hasty in the price comparison...I know what I gave for my Uberti (Taylor's) Henry Transition was about 40% of what those Henry Repeating Arms "originals" were when they first came out. But if you compare the $1900 reported above to new asking price on Ubertis (if you can find them), there's only a $500 difference. I could swallow that to buy American a lot easier than $1400 difference. But I've been there, done that. The Uberti I have is fun to shoot, but is too heavy to hunt with and I can only shoot normal pressure loads in it. I'm going to sell it to friend as soon as his tax refund check comes in and I'll stick to shooting my 1892 Miroku/Winchester.Pete44ru wrote:.
It would be worth the extra money to me to:
(1) Buy American
(2) be able to obtain local (USA) service from a company noted for excellence
and
(3) obtain a CF Henry M-1860 that was w/o bore size issues like some Italian imports have had.
BUT, since I don't have the money, I've stated moot points.
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Re: Henry Original 44/40
Good point. The Miroku /win isn't anything like a real winchester and it's made overseas and Winchester is not Winchester anymore being sold several times now.Malamute wrote:I think many believe that being marked "Henry's Repeating Arms" makes them just like the originals (if not by the "original" company, which some believe). There was no Henry Repeating Arms Company. The original guns made in 1860-'65 were made by the New Haven Arms Co., which was changed to Winchester Repeating Arms for the new version brought out in 1866.Hawkeye2 wrote:Pet peeve: the use of "original" when referring to the Henry Rifle Co's 1860 reproduction (also to their use of the name Henry and associating themselves with the 1860 product). This is not to knock their products which are excellent. Their offering is in no way original, nor is the Uberti. They are both offered in calibers that the true original Henry never was and the actions have been lengthened to accommodate the newer cartridges. They are at best a reasonable facsimile and I'm sure no one would buy a new made .44 rimfire today. Let's just call them what they are: a modern reproduction. There seems to be too much confusion out there among the less knowledgeable regarding the Henry company and the 1860 Henry and its copies by any manufacturer. Now that my rant is over I'll have to say I wish I had the $$ to buy one, probably a Uberti.
Having said that, if one wants one, thats plenty of reason to buy one. Many cant justify the cost of a Miroku Winchester/Browning, but I cant imagine not getting one compared to an import.
As Dennis mentions below, at least the Henry is USA made and well done too.
With our litigious society that's for sure, but the fit and finish is much better than the Uberti, too. The outside fit and finish is similar. Both are nice. But, on the insides the Henry is superior. The degree of fit and finish always adds man-hours to the final price.DPris wrote:Well-made, reliable, decently accurate, and the price reflects the costs of making that gun in the US the way Henry does it.
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Re: Henry Original 44/40
Brent,BrentD wrote:These are like $40-50 grand, no? Maybe I'm misinterpretting the use of the word "original" in the subject line.
Exactly my thoughts.......anymore, "original" mean something that was made in the seventies or so.
Yea......reminiscing here.....the year was 1981.....a beautiful 100% original military cartouched 1860 Henry, complete with leather sling was shown to me......the guy said, "$4500 and you can take it home".
It might as well been $45,000 , which, by the way, is what it would easily bring today.----6
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Re: Henry Original 44/40
6pt-sika wrote:All of the "original" Henry's that were made in the 1860's were 44 Rimfire as well as the 1866 Winchesters.JerryB wrote:Think about it, was an original Henry chambered in .44 rimfire OR 44-40??????????
Reckon my post came a little late, oh well.
there were around 2000 1866s made in a 44 centerfire and three experimental / prototype henrys in 44 center fire, i think toward the end of the henry production........one of those was sold at auction [ james julias maybe or rock island] within the last 10-12 years....i did have the catalog. it was very well documented etc.
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Re: Henry Original 44/40
Nate Kiowa Jones wrote:...Good point. The Miroku /win isn't anything like a real winchester and it's made overseas and Winchester is not Winchester anymore being sold several times now.
As Dennis mentions below, at least the Henry is USA made and well done too.
Yes, and I should have said "the other imports".
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Malamute wrote:Nate Kiowa Jones wrote:...Good point. The Miroku /win isn't anything like a real winchester and it's made overseas and Winchester is not Winchester anymore being sold several times now.
As Dennis mentions below, at least the Henry is USA made and well done too.
Yes, and I should have said "the other imports".
Something a lot of folks don't know, the Imperato family has been in the US gun business for over 100 years. They bought Iver Johnson years ago. Probably the only upper east coast traditional family owned gun makers left.
Anthony Imperato, serves as President and owner of Henry Repeating Arms. Anthony’s family has been in the gun business since 1911. He started in 1978, working in the family’s gun shop in lower Manhattan as well as at the Iver Johnson Arms plant they had in Middlesex, New Jersey at the time.
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Re: Henry Original 44/40
They're in Jersey.
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You're behind the times.
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