Engraved Winchester Model 94.

Gun Smith · Post by **Gun Smith** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:31 am

First, Winchester Model 94's are not my line of interest. I was shown one recently by a fellow who purchased it new to him about 1960. He asked me if it was original, and I said I would find out for him. It is configured as a 30 WCF caliber saddle ring carbine. It looks like it has a fancier wood than most of the 94's I have seen. It has a dark case hardened receiver. It has simple scroll engraving on the receiver. In all other respects it looks like a regular M' 94. Please identify it for me. I will pass on the info to him. Thanks.

Mike D. · Post by **Mike D.** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:36 am

Gotta have pics, please.

J Miller · Post by **J Miller** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:47 am

Gunsmith,

That would be either a 'Classic' or an 'Antique'. I get confused by which is which, but one had the round barrels and one was octagon.

They are Post-64s as well.

Joe

Post by **Hobie** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:51 am

Sounds like the Antique about 1964-66. Original? Probably. We do need photos for something like this. Too, much too, little info.

Junior · Post by **Junior** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:58 am

J Miller wrote:Gunsmith,

That would be either a 'Classic' or an 'Antique'. I get confused by which is which, but one had the round barrels and one was octagon.

They are Post-64s as well.

Joe

We talked about this on the old forum. My buddy Dennis bought a round barrel version for $125. It had normal wear outside, but inside was like new. Dennis is a rascal.

salvo · Post by **salvo** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:59 am

The owner said he bought it around 1960 and the barrel is marked 30WCF that kinda throws the post 64 out the window?
Serial number and pictures would be a big help.

J Miller · Post by **J Miller** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:08 pm

Salvo,

If it was purchased new in 1960 it would have been a standard carbine style 94 and stamped 30-30. Winchester didn't use any scroll engraving until after they cheapened them up in 64, and the 30WCF stampings were changed in the late 40s. My 1950 is stamped 30-30.

As everyone has said, a serial number and some pics will clarify things a bit.

Joe

Post by **Ysabel Kid** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:50 pm

Yep, feed our lever-porn addictions, please!

kimwcook · Post by **kimwcook** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 8:18 am

Sounds just like the one my dad bought my brother me when I was about 10 years old. It's called an "Antique". It should also have a gold loading gate. Mine didn't have extra fancy wood and neither did my brothers. Case colored w/some type of machined engraving on the receiver. Other than that a regular 94.

Gun Smith · Post by **Gun Smith** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 6:29 pm

Hi Guys, I've been out of town for a couple of days. I don't have the gun for a picture. It sounds like it is called the "classic, or "antique. . Sorry about the 30 WCF, I use that lingo most of the time. And yes, it was marked 30/30.

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 3:05 am

Yep, with gold loading gate, it would be 1965's "Antique".

About like so:

and:

Pete44ru · Post by **Pete44ru** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 8:01 am

IIRC, the M94 Classic had the "engraving" scrolls, but didn't have a case-colored receiver, with a choice of either a 20" or a 24" highly polished, blued octagon barrel.

The M94 Antique, as pictured above, only came in one flavor - case-colored receiver, 20" round barrel Carbine.

Post by **Hobie** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 9:24 am

You know, in my business I've learned one thing for certain and that is most folks can't remember or even reason out what year they bought anything. Go back 30+ years and they can get the decade, usually. I accept the recent description or what I see in my hands before the remembered purchase date.

J Miller · Post by **J Miller** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 9:35 am

You know, in my business I've learned one thing for certain and that is most folks can't remember or even reason out what year they bought anything. Go back 30+ years and they can get the decade, usually. I accept the recent description or what I see in my hands before the remembered purchase date. Laughing

This is so true. That's why I keep a record of my guns, and other things I collect. That way what I don't remember can still be researched reasonably easy.

Joe

Gun Smith · Post by **Gun Smith** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:10 am

Boy you got that right. I can't remember within 5 years when I got/did things. I felt the gun was a post 64 when I saw it. Also when I visited my friend the other day he has a Winchester book that says the first commeratives were in 1964. Does that apply to the engraved model that I saw too?

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 5:04 pm

Gun Smith wrote:...a Winchester book that says the first commeratives were in 1964. Does that apply to the engraved model that I saw too?

No, the "Antique" and "Classic" were just fancied up models. The Wyoming Diamond Jubilee" was the 1st "commemorative."