J Manton double hammer 10 gauge

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J Manton double hammer 10 gauge

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I bought this J Manton 10 gauge hammer gun about 7 or 8 years ago kinda by mistake . Think I paid $150 anyway after I got it home I figured I had messed up . Anyway I finally decided to bring it in to the shop yeasterday .

We worked on the sears , tightened the barrels and someone had painted the barrels before so I stripped them as well . We tried browning them yesterday but I didn't care for the look as you can see in the picture . So tommorrow they'll get rust blued .

While this thing is a J Manton it isn't a nice old British gun but rather a cheaper version from Belgium . It's got plenty pits on the outside but the bores on this gun are spotless .

After blueing tommorrow I'll try her with my reduced loads I use in my W&C Scott .

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Nice save, 6pt!
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I just cleaned and waxed the stock a few minutes ago !

Things got a fair amount of figure in the wood .

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Also cleaned up the buttplate and will reblue that tommorrow as well !

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The actions still pitted a good bit .

I may at a later date see if I can't get it looking somewhat better and reblue it as well . But thats down the road . Now atleast the old guns tight , the barrels ring and it should be okay for shooting my light damascus loads . Might just give her a try thursday .
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6pt-sika wrote:The actions still pitted a good bit .

I may at a later date see if I can't get it looking somewhat better and reblue it as well . But thats down the road . Now atleast the old guns tight , the barrels ring and it should be okay for shooting my light damascus loads . Might just give her a try thursday .

You could have the action laser welled to fill the pits and then file it down to level again. I've seen a few guns done this way and it works pretty well.
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BrentD wrote:
6pt-sika wrote:The actions still pitted a good bit .

I may at a later date see if I can't get it looking somewhat better and reblue it as well . But thats down the road . Now atleast the old guns tight , the barrels ring and it should be okay for shooting my light damascus loads . Might just give her a try thursday .

You could have the action laser welled to fill the pits and then file it down to level again. I've seen a few guns done this way and it works pretty well.
Yes , a fellow on the Parker forum showed pics of several he did that way and then had them re engraved .

I have I think $150 in this thing . So my intention is to pattern it with my damascus Buckshot loads and kill a deer . After that it'll go back in the safe and most likely stay there . Might try and scratch down a dove or two with it as well just so I can say I did .

As you're well aware a good many folks like and or prefer hammer guns . As a matter of fact three of the fellows I regularly shoot clay targets with like the old hammer guns . I haven't gotten to that point yet . I have this one a Kettner hammer drilling and another Hammer Guild Drilling . I may make a point of getting a deer with this old 10 gauge and the Kettner drilling this year .

My Kettner 16 - 16 and 10.75x65R Collath hammer gun . The things stocked left handed and was brought after WWII .

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I sure do like that Kettner :mrgreen:
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casastahle wrote:I sure do like that Kettner :mrgreen:
Thanks !

A friend of mine brought this gun in the shop maybe 3 or 4 years ago . It was brought back by his deceased FIL who happened to be a Colonel in WWII . My friend is a recently retired 2 Star as well .

He sold me this one along with a Collath single barrel 6.5x52R I believe it's called which in reality is a 25-35 . Oh and I got my schuetzen rifle from him as well . His FIL brought all three back after the war .
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After looking thru my copy of "The Golden Age of Shotgunning" by Bob Hinman I found out "J Manton" was a hardware store brand for H.D. Folsom .


If this thing works out okay I may bring in our German Guild hammer drilling and get it tightened up as well . My mother bought the gun over 40 years ago for my father for Xmas .
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6-pt, you have some wonderful firearms in your collection.
I think your plan to kill a deer with a buckshot load out of the Manton is commendable. These old, forgotten arms deserve the respect of seeing use.
If I am ever in your neck of the woods, the drinks will be on me.

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Bill in Oregon wrote:6-pt, you have some wonderful firearms in your collection.
I think your plan to kill a deer with a buckshot load out of the Manton is commendable. These old, forgotten arms deserve the respect of seeing use.
If I am ever in your neck of the woods, the drinks will be on me.

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Thanks ! I plan to use buck in the Kettner as well or either use the rifle barrel .
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6pt-sika wrote:
Bill in Oregon wrote:6-pt, you have some wonderful firearms in your collection.
I think your plan to kill a deer with a buckshot load out of the Manton is commendable. These old, forgotten arms deserve the respect of seeing use.
If I am ever in your neck of the woods, the drinks will be on me.

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Thanks ! I plan to use buck in the Kettner as well or either use the rifle barrel .
That would be awesome.
Do post pictures if you make this happen 8)
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Very nice 6pt. :D
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Well, I had a question that you answered before I got to post. Joseph Manton (which can also be seen on shotguns as Jos'h Manton was an English gunmaker and inventor from Grantham, or someplace near that. He had a shop in London as well. He worked for several of the big name outfits and is one of the inventors of the self-opener as well as other innovative lock designs. So my question was, "How did a J. Manton end up with Birmingham proof marks"? I think you answered it when you posted that J. Manton was also used as a hardware store brand. Nice ole gun nonetheless and worthy of shooting.
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Got the Manton put back together a few minutes ago . It isn't perfect by a longshot but it is "usable" now !

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I fired half a dozen 1 1/4 ounce loads in the old gun today at some trap targets . And the old gun passed the test !
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Excellent work and story :D
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Nath wrote:Excellent work and story :D
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