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This is my Grandfather's brother. I found this old picture last time I visited my family in Alabama. I thought it was a pretty neat old picture and wanted to see if anyone could identify the rifle in the picture. I know its not a lever gun but still pretty neat. Im trying to date the picture.
It had to be in the 1920 or maybe the 1930s but prob. not any later than that. If I could identify the gun then it may help me with at least knowing what year it would be after.
Could it be a shotgun instead of a rifle?
All of my Grandfather's men in the family were known in those parts for being excellent shots with great hunting and trapping skills so this was a pretty neat find.
Def Rem mod 12 -22. The ejection port is a dead giveaway. Good shooting little rifle if no parts are missing. Most common is the follower and the cartridge stop.
Perry
pwl44m wrote:Def Rem mod 12 -22. The ejection port is a dead giveaway. Good shooting little rifle if no parts are missing. Most common is the follower and the cartridge stop.
Perry
Thanks. That seems to be the most popular vote. The gun may still be in my cousins collection. It was his grandfather. He has some of grandfather's guns. They took a coupld good pictures.
Here is another.
Left to right
Thomas Nathan Wheeler (Great Grandfather), Myrt Wheeler, Bailey Woods, Hezzie Wheeler and William Chester (Check) Wheeler (My Grandfather)
The picture is of my Great Grandfather Thomas Nathan Wheeler and his sons Myrt, Hezzie and William Chester. Bailey Woods was his son in law.
Not a very common name. My Fathers name was Hessie (he said it was supposed to be spelled with two z's but the Dr. wrote S's on his birth certificate
Dave
MA1 USN (Retired) Freedom is never really free, payments come due in every generation.
TX50Cal wrote:Not a very common name. My Fathers name was Hessie (he said it was supposed to be spelled with two z's but the Dr. wrote S's on his birth certificate
Dave
Booger Bill wrote:If they had a sister I bet their brother in law, "Walked the straight and narrow" with sis!
They had several sisters and while Bailey Woods was a family friend I am sure he walked a straight line. They were quite the rowdy bunch from what I hear and could tell by pictures that we have.
Grizz wrote:Like the guy shot. Handsome crew. Unfortunate composition for one fellow.
Is this right.... roller, double, win-97, sav-99, unk ?
Grizz
I know the sharply dressed guy (third from left) is holding a Winchester Model 12 shotgun. My uncle still has that rifle. The next (fourth from left) I forget what model it is but I know where it is also....its a .22 that you load in the stock. Others, im not sure of.
damienph wrote:Those three pelts leaning against the wall behind his dog are truly "stiff as a board". I've never seen them stretched quite like that.
That is called "cased, fur in" pretty common. Most of your water critters are case skinned and put up fur in except for beaver. Also Opossum, squirrel ,weasel maybe Badger, I have seen them put up both ways. There are many types of stretching forms made from wood and wire.
It is hard to sneak anything questionable past the fur buyer when put up fur in.
Damage from knife or bullet or any repair's are right there for all the world to see.
He can glance at the color of the skin and no instantly if it is a prime or not, when prime they are whitish , harvested to early they will be dark or blueish .
---J
Keep The Peace, Love and Harmony, These are the Gold Nuggets, All Else Is Sand !!
damienph wrote:Those three pelts leaning against the wall behind his dog are truly "stiff as a board". I've never seen them stretched quite like that.
That is called "cased, fur in" pretty common. Most of your water critters are case skinned and put up fur in except for beaver.
Would you mind briefly describing the process and purpose of this method? Thanks.
"He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance." Declaration of Independance, July 4, 1776 11B30
I know the sharply dressed guy (third from left) is holding a Winchester Model 12 shotgun. My uncle still has that rifle. The next (fourth from left) I forget what model it is but I know where it is also....its a .22 that you load in the stock. Others, im not sure of.[/quote]
The fourth guy is carrying a Remington model 24 semi-auto.
Dave in TX
MA1 USN (Retired) Freedom is never really free, payments come due in every generation.
damienph wrote:Those three pelts leaning against the wall behind his dog are truly "stiff as a board". I've never seen them stretched quite like that.
That is called "cased, fur in" pretty common. Most of your water critters are case skinned and put up fur in except for beaver.
Would you mind briefly describing the process and purpose of this method? Thanks.
To case skin you make one incision from ankle to ankle right by the anus then peel the fur off the legs, critters with furry tails you strip the tail then proceed to peel the fur down the back and belly and sides till you reach the shoulders, then work the skin loose around the shoulders and down the the inside of the front legs as far as your buyer wants then make a cut around the front legs and pull the leg's free, work the skin loose down the neck and up the head till you reach the ear butts then cut the butts and proceed down to the eyes and lips and nose, you want to make sure and do the nose right, other wise you will have a hard time stretching the skin.
The purpose is like I explained in my other post the buyer can see if the fur was harvested when prime and the hide is undamaged and fleshed properly.
The furrier's also want to cut the fur there way so you case it neatly and then they can make the best use of the pelt to suit their need's.
Canines and felines you case skin and put the pelt up fur out.
----J
Keep The Peace, Love and Harmony, These are the Gold Nuggets, All Else Is Sand !!
TX50Cal wrote:I know the sharply dressed guy (third from left) is holding a Winchester Model 12 shotgun. My uncle still has that rifle. The next (fourth from left) I forget what model it is but I know where it is also....its a .22 that you load in the stock. Others, im not sure of.
The fourth guy is carrying a Remington model 24 semi-auto.
Dave in TX[/quote]
Thanks.
I know my cousin still has that gun as it was his grandpa's gun. My father may have another of the bunch but im not sure.
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