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35/30 or 35/30-30

#1 Post by 86er » Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:25 pm

Does anyone have any experience with this caliber? There are a few renditions of this concept but I am specifically talking about a plain ole 30WCF or 32 SPL necked up to .358. It seems it was once very popular for "shot out" 30 and 32 caliber barrels, particularly in Win 94's. I know who will do the conversion and where I can get reloading dies. What I am wanting to know is any personal experience with loading or loads, hunting use, ballistics, firearms functioning and alterations, etc. I have multiple 30-30 caliber rifles but my favorite is the .35's including 360DW, 35 Rem, 356 Win and 35 Whelen. I have 180 and 200 grain bullets and know what velocity I need to make 'em perform as I am used to. I just thought it would be a cool conversion that is very useful to me. Any info is appreciated.
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Re: 35/30 or 35/30-30

#2 Post by Old Savage » Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:46 pm

No experience but it has always interested me too. It is listed in Cartridges of the World I believe.
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Re: 35/30 or 35/30-30

#3 Post by 1894c » Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:33 am

that's a very cooool idea...wish i had info...waiting to hear more... :)

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Re: 35/30 or 35/30-30

#4 Post by Mainehunter » Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:00 am

From Reloading Bench Site:

"Historical Notes:

Although not widely known, the 35-30/30 is one of the oldest wildcats, having originated around the turn of the century. Its original purpose was to salvage worn out 32-40 and 32 Winchester Special barrels by reboring them to 35 caliber. The idea was also implied to improve the performance of Winchester Model 1894 rifles and carbines while staying within the cartridge length and pressure limitations of this action. The 35-30/30 cartridge is based on necking up 30-30 or 32 Winchester Special brass without any other change, although a few rifles have been made up to accept the Ackley Improved version of this case. Recently there has been a rebirth of interest in this cartridge by silhouette shooters who like to use cast bullets. In 1976, Arizona gunsmith Paul Marquart built several 35-30/30 silhouette rifles built on the Remington 788 action, and these quickly established a reputation as being both accurate and effective for the intended sport. Information on these rifles was published in The Fouling Shot, published by the Cast Bullet Association, and other shooters found it promising as a target and hunting cartridge. The 35-30/30 can be loaded to about equal the ballistics of the 35 Remington, and in fact, if Remington hadn't introduced their rimless 35 in 1908, it is highly possible that the necked up 30-30 would have become much more popular than it did. In any event, it is picking up a new but modest following.

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With jacketed bullets there is little, if any, difference between the ballistics and killing power of the 35-30/30 and the 35 Remington. On paper the 35 Remington appears to have an edge over the 35-30/30 because it has about 14 percent greater powder capacity, but the factory 200 grain bullet loading rarely attains 2000 fps except in a 24 inch test barrel chiefly because of rather anemic loading pressures. As a cast bullet cartridge, the 35-30/30 with its longer neck permits use of cast bullets as heavy as 270 grains seated to a depth that will feed through magazine rifles designed for the 30-30. This is not possible with the 35 Remington and its short neck. In a strong action, the 35-30/30 can be loaded to deliver performance approaching the 375 Winchester. However, in a strong action, the 35 Remington can be stepped up quite a bit too. It is possible to attain 1800 fps with a 300 grain bullet in a strong action chambered 35-30/30, which would make it adequate for elk or moose at short range. It is a good cartridge for upping the performance of 30-30 rifles or for salvaging worn out 32 Special barrels. For a wildcat, it is rather a special purpose cartridge, but one that may fill the needs of a number of shooters. Dies are available from RCBS and chamber reamers from Clymer."

At one point I was going to convert a Savage 99 that I had laying around but I ended up selling it. The reason of doing it was the longer case neck so I had more of a selection of cast bullets to use. Also, dies are available at CH4D Tool & Die. As mentioned the performance is about the same as the 35 Remington. I do believe JES gunsmith does the conversion.
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Re: 35/30 or 35/30-30

#5 Post by piller » Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:45 am

No experience with it either, but I can see the point of it. A larger chunk of lead at a modest velocity seems to work well in most conditions.
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Re: 35/30 or 35/30-30

#6 Post by FWiedner » Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:42 am

If the hobbiest is looking for a way to spend time at the bench with something a little different, it sounds interesting, but for a hunter I find the statement from the article posted above to be somewhat telling:

"With jacketed bullets there is little, if any, difference between the ballistics and killing power of the 35-30/30 and the 35 Remington."

If it performs as reliably as a .35rem, why not?

If you've already got a .35Rem, then... why?

It does sounds like it would be an easy shooter.

Also sounds like you'd have to scrounge up some brass and dies, have them made, or make them youself.

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Re: 35/30 or 35/30-30

#7 Post by J Miller » Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:29 pm

Fire forming 32WS brass would be a piece of cake. That would be an easy cartridge to make and use.

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Re: 35/30 or 35/30-30

#8 Post by Tycer » Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:23 pm

I have a Win 94 and a 32 Special barrel I bought especially for this and several 35 Cal molds and and and....

If you decide to have it done, I might ship mine in at the same time.
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Re: 35/30 or 35/30-30

#9 Post by 86er » Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:54 pm

I do not have a 35 Rem levergun. I do have other rifles in that caliber. I had a Marlin in 35 Rem but I gave it to a friend as I am not a huge Marlin fan. On that note, I haven't found a Winchester that I would want to convert. Nonetheless, I have a good candidate for this conversion. The rifle is packed and ready to go to JES. I have to call CH-4d for the dies.
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Re: 35/30 or 35/30-30

#10 Post by Marlin32 » Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:08 pm

Try searching on the Marlin Forum for info. I know it has been discussed on the site before. I didn't take up much interest in those threads at the time.

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Re: 35/30 or 35/30-30

#11 Post by Marlin32 » Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:12 pm

35-30/30 (35-30) Reloading Data
Bullet (grs.) Powder / (grs.) MV ME Source
200 JSP IMR4198 / 25.0 1925 1650 N/A
208 Lead IMR4198 / 25.0 1895 1660 N/A
210 Lead W630 / 15.0 1520 1080 Lyman 35875
245 Lead H335 / 30.0 1770 1710 Lyman 358318
282 Lead H335 / 28.0 1700 1810 Lyman 3589
292 Lead W748 / 33.5 1620 1580


I think similar data for a necked up 32.
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Re: 35/30 or 35/30-30

#12 Post by awp101 » Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:29 pm

Hmmm, this sounds like it might be an interesting project for someone with a Savage 340 (IIRC) in .30-30. Would that action handle it though?

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Re: 35/30 or 35/30-30

#13 Post by Mainehunter » Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:49 pm

awp101 wrote:Hmmm, this sounds like it might be an interesting project for someone with a Savage 340 (IIRC) in .30-30. Would that action handle it though?

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I would think JES could answer that. I would think since the Savage is chambered in the 30-30 it shouldn't have any problems even though the bolt handle is the only locking lug it uses.

86er...Just curious what have you decided on the twist rate and number of groves? There was a guy that used to shoot at the gun range few years back had one chamber in a TC. If I recall he used mostly pistol bullets up to 200 grains. Quite accurate out to 200 yards.

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Re: 35/30 or 35/30-30

#14 Post by EdinCT » Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:53 pm

A man that I meet at the rifle range had one on a Ruger #1 and shot cast out of it. He praised it very highly in every way. He also used 30-30 brass necked up and said with Imperial die wax it was easy to neck up.
I would do this in a heartbeat if I found a 30-30 with bad bore.

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Re: 35/30 or 35/30-30

#15 Post by Tycer » Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:15 pm

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Re: 35/30 or 35/30-30

#16 Post by JerryB » Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:21 pm

How does it compare to a Win. 94 in 38-55 is it any better? I have a Jes rebored 30-30.
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Re: 35/30 or 35/30-30

#17 Post by Marlin32 » Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:33 am

Ran some numbers using the Kodiak 250gr .35 bullet for the 35-30/30
Can get to 1900fps fairly easily with a number of powders. Some pretty close to max pressures, some under max a bit. (39k psi)
That would be a pretty good load I should think.

I have other things going on right now, But I am still wanting to neck up a 338ME to 348 or 358. With Barnes (348) and Speer (358) bullets, can squeeze 300yd elk performance out of it.

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Re: 35/30 or 35/30-30

#18 Post by 86er » Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:53 am

So does anyone here actually have one - or know of one personally? I'd love to borrow a set of dies or send some brass for resizing.
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Re: 35/30 or 35/30-30

#19 Post by Old Savage » Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:02 am

What you are going to have is a Model 94 in 35 Remington. Resizing will be super easy.
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Re: 35/30 or 35/30-30

#20 Post by 86er » Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:54 am

I ordered dies for 35/30-30 but one place expects shipment in September and the other says minimum 60 days with no committment. I'd like to get at least 50 pieces of brass made meanwhile to shoot the darn thing.
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Re: 35/30 or 35/30-30

#21 Post by 3leggedturtle » Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:48 am

86'er If you have 358Win or 357 herrett dies you could use that to expand the cases and size the necks. Use a 375Win die for the case head. 35Herrett seater for the bullets. I have a Saeco 245FP mold if you have any interest in it. I was going to have one done on a Contender barrel but decided to keep it in 38 cause it is just too accurate to mess up.
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Re: 35/30 or 35/30-30

#22 Post by earlmck » Tue Feb 26, 2013 12:23 pm

3leggedturtle wrote:86'er If you have 357 herrett die you could use that to expand the cases and size the necks. Use a 375Win die for the case head. 35Herrett seater for the bullets.
Yes indeed. Or 35 Remington dies for expanding and seating, along with that 375 Win (or 38/55 ) as a "body die". And if the neck expansion part is giving problems, my reloading notes show me that I have used 18 grains of Unique held in by a tuft of dacron, no bullet, to fireform 222mag cases into 25X47 cases, and I'd guess the same (or maybe a couple grains more) recipe would take 30/30 to 30/35.
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Re: 35/30 or 35/30-30

#23 Post by Mike Rintoul » Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:47 pm

I just got done with Joe's Henry rifle that was converted to 35-30/30 by JES. What a hoot! Very low recoil for the amount of power you're getting in a 7 lbs rifle. We settled for BENCHMARK as a powder and 33.8-34.2 grains will work well for 200 gr Remington Core Lokt, 200 gr Hornady FTX, 205 gr GC Saeco and 215 gr GC Lyman. The velocities were at or near 2100 fps with the jacketed bullets, and the lighter cast bullet exceeded that while the heavier cast bullet was under that by 150 fps or so (20" bbl). The accuracy was fantastic. With the 2X7 Leupold scope @ 100 yds some of the loads would put 3 rounds into an inch while the worst of the bunch was making 2 inch groups. JES did a good job. I used Winchester 30-30 new brass and it tended to crush the necks with Joe's dies (Redding) that he sent me. I ended up using 4 stages with a combo of other 358 dies to form the brass. Fireforming was another matter. Easily fire formed to proper dimensions and then ran through the 2 Redding dies to resize and reload with no issues. The OAL was a wee bit too long at first but the best way to decide the right OAL is to run the rounds through the action long and reduce the OAL until they function and feed perfectly. This was within the crimp groove of the Remington bullets, just above with the Hornady and wherever it happened to land with the cast bullets. Although Joe did not want any at this time, we can get 300 grain bullets at 1950 fps for that odd moose or bear hunt where you want a little more bullet weight :wink: . Field reports, studies and experience prove the .358 bullet (cast or intended for 35 Rem) to be fantastic performers on medium sized game and 180 grain pistol bullets should be good (I also loaded Brandon's 360DW rifle cartridges with 180 gr Hornady XTP @ 1920 fps and they have an unbelievable track record) and very mild. Anyway - this was my first go-around with a 35-30/30 "wildcat" but it is a worthy cartridge that I recommend to anyone that doesn't mind the initial cost and then the subsequent reloading.
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Re: 35/30 or 35/30-30

#24 Post by El Chivo » Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:41 am

One thing I see about this cartridge vs. 35 Rem is to see if accuracy is affected by how much neck tension there is. The 35 Rem bullet starts sloping almost immediately. It's made for a short neck. You probably should try a 35 Whelen bullet in the 35-30, because the base will be longer before it starts sloping and you can insert it deeply into the neck. Hornady makes both kinds (I was afraid of getting the wrong one).

But I was wondering, if, in a rifle, is accuracy helped by the long neck or short neck? Lee talks about bench rest shooters seating the bullet in lightly with no crimp, and gingerly putting the round in the chamber. That makes it sound like the less tension, the better. My 35 Rem is more accurate than my 30-30.

86-er, I made a few demos using 30-30 dies to size the body and 35 Rem die to open up the neck. I'm sure you have those dies already. I thought of "making" my own by switching the 35 Rem plug into the 30-30 die body, but one is frozen in place so I'll have to start new.

I have been thinking of this conversion for a while, but am hesitating because the 35 Rem has the extra case capacity. I would like it for shooting pistol bullets, but I have rifles in .357 magnum. So it's definitely not a great need. I might be better off keeping mine a 30-30.
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Re: 35/30 or 35/30-30

#25 Post by Mike Armstrong » Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:19 am

I had one of these as a spare rifle barrel for a Savage 220 single shot shotgun; a machinist friend of mine relined a 16 guage shotgun barrel (somebody had blown the choke end off it, probably shooting it full of mud or snow) with a .358 barrel blank and added a scope base. He loved the .35-30 and had a beautiful rebarreled Krag-actioned single shot that he used in cast bullet matches.

I mostly shot mine with .357 and .38 bullets using subloads and a filler. Don't seem to have any load data left from that--it was in the early 1980s and I've made several moves since then (and sold the barrel to another friend years ago). I attended one of the cast bullet matches with my machinist friend and there was somebody there who had a rebarreled Rem 788 .30-30 in .35-30. He was shooting 200 gr. cast bullets into tiny little groups with it.

Never bothered to die form .35-30; just loaded range pickup .30-30s with cheap cast .308 bullets and a subload with corn meal, fire formed in the .35-30 and trimmed. Easy-peasy. Of course that was back when .30-30 shooters mostly left their brass on the bench or on the ground. You don't see so much of that now.

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#26 Post by Malamute » Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:43 am

El Chivo wrote: But I was wondering, if, in a rifle, is accuracy helped by the long neck or short neck? Lee talks about bench rest shooters seating the bullet in lightly with no crimp, and gingerly putting the round in the chamber. That makes it sound like the less tension, the better. My 35 Rem is more accurate than my 30-30.
It isn't just about neck length = neck tension. Longer necks are desired by many to keep the bullet aligned better. The difference in accuracy between your 30-30 and 35 are not likley just from neck length or tension. There's many other variables.
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Re: 35/30 or 35/30-30

#27 Post by Alan in Vermont » Thu Nov 28, 2013 8:13 pm

Newbie here, found this site while searching for info on 35-30-30. I will be following this thread while I'm waiting for my stars to align and I find an affordable 94 to have rebored.

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#28 Post by Rusty » Thu Nov 28, 2013 8:51 pm

Welcome to the forum Alan. If you keep searching there is another thread where 86er tells of his first hunt using the .35/.30-30.
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#29 Post by Alan in Vermont » Thu Nov 28, 2013 9:49 pm

I have been messing with cast bullets in 30-30 and have reached the point of using the same powder charges as I do behind similar weights of jacketed bullets. I kinda/sorta want to try something with a bigger bore and there have to be some 94s out there that can be bought reasonably because the bores, or even the exteriors, are bad. I've only got the one 94 and it is a bit on the ugly side but it shoots so the first step on this adventure is to find a specimen that needs a rebore. Hopefully when I find one I'll have sufficient cash on hand to at least get it on layaway if not buy it outright. Sad, but the days of $100 94s are ancient history.

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Re: 35/30 or 35/30-30

#30 Post by Mike Rintoul » Sun Dec 01, 2013 2:48 pm

I used 33.8 grains - 34.2 grains of Benchmark under a 200 grain Rem Core Lokt as well as Joe's 225 grain Saeco and Lyman cast bullets. They all are in the 2000-2100 fps range with same point of impact at 100 yards. The fire-forming was straight forward and the Redding dies were quality pieces that did the job well.
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Re: 35/30 or 35/30-30

#31 Post by Alan in Vermont » Wed Sep 24, 2014 4:49 pm

3leggedturtle wrote:86'er If you have 358Win or 357 herrett dies you could use that to expand the cases and size the necks. Use a 375Win die for the case head. 35Herrett seater for the bullets.
When I was campaigning a 357 Herrett (14") Contender in IHMSA I was fireforming 357H cases by firing 30-30 loads in the TC barrel. Trimmed to length they got neck sized with a 357 mag carbide sizer. A 35R Lyman "M" die did the expanding and a Lyman 35 Rem PA seater handled bullet seating. I'm going to try that same approach for 35/30-30. Not knowing if the shoulder will be a crush fit in the 35/30-30, as it was in the Herrett I'm not 100% sure it will work for the fireforming. Worst case is that I have neck the cases up to something over 35 cal, then neck size them just enough to be a crush fit for that first load.

I'm working on getting a second 94 in the house, it looks like the $$ will be available for that at last. Then I'll have to come up with financing for the rebore/rechamber. :( Oh well, if it was easy anyone could do it.

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#32 Post by Canuck Bob » Thu Sep 25, 2014 11:53 pm

Here is an outstanding link I think. This thread really caught my interest. This is from Ed Harris, the early NRA gun writer. I read him and consider him the real deal.

http://www.hensleygibbs.com/edharris/ar ... ster94.htm

Link to a forum thread that might have generated the above article.

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Re: 35/30 or 35/30-30

#33 Post by Ray Newman » Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:05 pm

86'er: have you anymore follow-up info on this project?

The 35/30-30 has always intrigued me and I have a 30WCF Marlin 336Y that is willing to be converted to a 35/30-30.

Thanks and tip o' the hat for any updated information.
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#34 Post by Mainehunter » Sun Apr 05, 2015 6:56 am

Ray Newman wrote:86'er: have you anymore follow-up info on this project?

The 35/30-30 has always intrigued me and I have a 30WCF Marlin 336Y that is willing to be converted to a 35/30-30.

Thanks and tip o' the hat for any updated information.
I could be wrong but I think 86'er sold that rifle here on the classified few months ago. I had JES build me one a year ago on a Marlin 336A here's a pic:

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I just put a few rounds in it last year to get a feel for it. This past winter I've researched some loads and ran them through Quickloads that I want to try out. I also picked up a nice NOE, 4 cavity bullet mold with interchangeable hollow point flat nose pins for the rifle. Flat nose should be around 230 gr. and hollow point around 214 gr.

As for dies you may want to call CH4D soon. I nearly spit out my coffee when I asked if they had the dies instock in which they did! :shock: I've bought dies from them over the years and took them well over a year to make so I never bothered calling them.

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Re: 35/30 or 35/30-30

#35 Post by fordwannabe » Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:21 am

Long dead thread but since I am going to use Mainehunters 336 on this caliber for my buck gun this year, I am doing load development and accuracy testing.

I have the NOE mold he mentioned above and it works well. I have to be honest I NEEDED this rifle and was all set to give her heck, other things happened (I think its called life) and she got put on a back burner but not far back in the safe. Well this is the year. Taking her to the range with me on the rare Tuesday afternoon that it doesn’t rain. Taking three rifles most weeks Marlin 1892 in 32, Marlin 1895 Takedown in 45/70, and Marlin 336 A that has had the barrel cut and now resembles a S/C, in 35/30. I have the 230 grain lead, lots of 200 grain jacketed, and two boxes of 250 Hornady that may be as old as I am.
Any updates on your experiences with this caliber appreciated.
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Re: 35/30 or 35/30-30

#36 Post by Bill in Oregon » Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:56 am

Good luck Ford. The one I had now lives in Texas, but I hope to run a 1951 336-A in .35 Remington in the woods this fall. I have the Lee 200-grain boolit to test, but would prefer more weight. However, you have to choose a mold wisely to fit the earlier Marlins with very little throat. I like this one:
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#37 Post by fordwannabe » Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:43 am

Bill I have a couple 35 Remington also,ok ok more like a few than a couple, ok ok more like some 35’s😂. I have used the RCBS 35-200 in all except one. (When I bought that weird Marlin possibly prototype from Six he had loaded ammo with it and that’s all I have used in it) All the other 35’s have done very well with the RCBS bullet. Though now I have that NOE 230 grain and a NOE 180 grain also. The 35-30 does like the longer 230 NOE bullet. If y’all want to try some let me know and I will get some out to ya.
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Re: 35/30 or 35/30-30

#38 Post by Bill in Oregon » Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:13 pm

Ford, thanks for the kind offer. The Lee mold is essentially a copy of the RCBS.
Is this the 230-grain NOE mold you are referring to? Looks like it might not fit into the early Marlin throat.

http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/product_in ... cuarcgijf6

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#39 Post by fordwannabe » Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:40 pm

I believe that is the one but in a four cavity. PM me and try a couple. Then you will know for sure. AND I will know because ...did I mention I have a couple, few, no some 35’s.
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Re: 35/30 or 35/30-30

#40 Post by JFE » Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:38 pm

Bill - that Accurate mould looks very similar to a Saeco mould that I have. It works well in a later model 336 in 35 Rem but as you mention the short throat is a bit of an issue. I seat the bullet in the case so that it fits that chamber freely, then crimp in a separate operation using a Lee FCD.

I bought that mould after reading a Glen Fryxell article on the 35 Rem. He judged that Saeco must have designed it around the 35 Rem. It's certainly accurate and stabilises in the 16" twist.

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Re: 35/30 or 35/30-30

#41 Post by Bill in Oregon » Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:31 pm

JFE, the notes on the Accurate Web site say that bullet is "inspired by Saeco # 352."
I'll look up Glen's article.

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Re: 35/30 or 35/30-30

#42 Post by fordwannabe » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:50 pm

Bill in Oregon it is approximately 3:45 pm by approximately 5:45 pm I will be sitting in my shed with a certain NOE mold and hopefully We will have a pile of beautiful boolits. Do you have a certain size you would like them?
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Re: 35/30 or 35/30-30

#43 Post by Bill in Oregon » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:55 pm

Friend, I am sizing .360. Don't cast too many on my account, as I am not sure that boolit will chamber.
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Re: 35/30 or 35/30-30

#44 Post by fordwannabe » Sat Jul 06, 2019 7:56 pm

Well Bill in Oregon, and Mainehunter have shown interest in how I have been coming along with the 35/30. Well I need to do some more testing but I believe I may have found my deer load for this year. It has a 200 grain round nose Sierra bullet and a close to max(for the 35 Remington) dose of 3031. This is five shots at 75 yards. One group does not a load make buuuuuut, it do show promise.
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#45 Post by Bill in Oregon » Sun Jul 07, 2019 7:00 am

Nice shooting, friend! I'd hate to be a deer in your neighborhood! 8)

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Re: 35/30 or 35/30-30

#46 Post by t.r. » Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:45 pm

No experience with this cartridge but my hunting buddy has a TC Contender in 357 Herret which is a shortened 30-30 case with neck opened up to 35 caliber. He loads the Speer 180 grain bullet and has toppled several dozen deer with this amazing handgun. We have hunted together since the 1970's.

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Re: 35/30 or 35/30-30

#47 Post by Rusty » Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:54 pm

I know Henry is now making a .35 Remington but I'd really like to see them come out with a .35-30 and call it the .35 Henry. I'll bet it would be a smashing success.
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Re: 35/30 or 35/30-30

#48 Post by fordwannabe » Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:16 am

Personally I kinda like having an odd ball caliber or 12.hehe
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