DD 214

[cshold]

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[Mac in Mo]

Is that something local or something available to all vets?

Kevin

[cshold]

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[Pete44ru]

Another perc, available in many municipalities, is a Veteran's Discount applied to property or motor vehicle taxes assessed by said municipality, upon application & presentation of the DD214.

Some municipalities in my state, ILO offering a direct discount of property tax, instead freeze property taxes at the time of application.

Mine happens to be a $1K discount off the tax itself, not off the assessed value of the property.

Yet others only offer percs to war veterans - aka, those whose time was served during an "official" war/conflict, like 'Nam, etc.

No one will positively know about their own municipality, as it regards to them, unless they physically go to the Tax Assessor & ask/apply - since the perc isn't generally advertised & YMMV.


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[Panzercat]

Huh. I had no idea. Especially the property tax thing which will become highly useful since I'm purchasing my first home. Does the card do anything special besides plug you in for discounts? Get you into USO locations, allow you on base, etc etc?

Trying to find Phoenix's method of recording this stuff but so far have a big ol' goose egg.

[edit] I just found out that I can use a DD214 to obtain a CCW here in AZ, sans class. Mind. Blown.

[cshold]

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[damienph]

I registered mine at the county courthouse back in '76 when I got out. No perks as far as I know, no discounts, no card, and certainly no pass on the CCW class.

I only registered mine because the VA guy told me I needed to.

[Griff]

I've never heard of this.

[Hobie]

It is applicable to some states. However, I think that recording it at the courthouse provides a back-up record just in case the military records are lost as they were in 1970-something fire for about a million veterans.

[Panzercat]

E. The department of public safety shall issue a permit to an applicant who meets all of the following conditions:

6. Has ever satisfactorily completed a firearms safety training program authorized by the department of public safety pursuant to subsection N, paragraph 1 of this section or has ever demonstrated competence with a firearm as prescribed by subsection N, paragraph 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or 9 of this section and provides adequate documentation that the person has satisfactorily completed a training program or demonstrated competence with a firearm in any state or political subdivision in the United States. For the purposes of this paragraph, "adequate documentation" means:

(c)An original or a copy of a United States department of defense form 214 (dd-214) indicating an honorable discharge or general discharge under honorable conditions, a certificate of completion of basic training or any other document demonstrating proof of the applicant's current or former service in the United States armed forces as prescribed by subsection N, paragraph 6 of this section.

Source

That's. Just. Awesome.

[Griff]

E. The department of public safety shall issue a permit to an applicant who meets all of the following conditions:

6. Has ever satisfactorily completed a firearms safety training program authorized by the department of public safety pursuant to subsection N, paragraph 1 of this section or has ever demonstrated competence with a firearm as prescribed by subsection N, paragraph 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or 9 of this section and provides adequate documentation that the person has satisfactorily completed a training program or demonstrated competence with a firearm in any state or political subdivision in the United States. For the purposes of this paragraph, "adequate documentation" means:

(c) An original or a copy of a United States department of defense form 214 (dd-214) indicating an honorable discharge or general discharge under honorable conditions, a certificate of completion of basic training or any other document demonstrating proof of the applicant's current or former service in the United States armed forces as prescribed by subsection N, paragraph 6 of this section.

Source

That's. Just. Awesome.

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[jnyork]

Hard to beleive some vets have not recorded their DD214's, but used to run into it all the time when I was a Realtor. It is not a big deal, fellers. Go to the county courthouse. Ask for directions to the County Recorder's Office. Go there, tell them you want to record your 214. They will do it and not charge you anything. This way, there is always a legal record of the 214 and a place where you can go and get certified true copies for any purpose that requires them. This way, in case you lose your original, it is not a big deal.

[olyinaz]

[edit] I just found out that I can use a DD214 to obtain a CCW here in AZ, sans class. Mind. Blown.

It's good for a 10% discount at Lowe's also. (I think an American Legion or VFW card will work also.)

Oly

[Ray Newman]

CAVEAT: be real careful when recording your DD 214. It contains personally identifiable information such as date and place of birth, and in some cases, social security number, etc.

In some states/ localities, a recorded DD214 is considered to be a matter of public record and a copy will be provided upon request.

A few years ago, the local newspaper here an article about an identity theft ring requesting and receiving copies of DD 214's, then using the information to open up charge accounts, obtain loans, driver's licenses, etc.

Check before it is recorded!

[damienph]

E. The department of public safety shall issue a permit to an applicant who meets all of the following conditions:

6. Has ever satisfactorily completed a firearms safety training program authorized by the department of public safety pursuant to subsection N, paragraph 1 of this section or has ever demonstrated competence with a firearm as prescribed by subsection N, paragraph 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or 9 of this section and provides adequate documentation that the person has satisfactorily completed a training program or demonstrated competence with a firearm in any state or political subdivision in the United States. For the purposes of this paragraph, "adequate documentation" means:

(c) An original or a copy of a United States department of defense form 214 (dd-214) indicating an honorable discharge or general discharge under honorable conditions, a certificate of completion of basic training or any other document demonstrating proof of the applicant's current or former service in the United States armed forces as prescribed by subsection N, paragraph 6 of this section.

Source

That's. Just. Awesome.

+1

+2!!

[hfcable]

just found mine, and my records file, right before Christmas.=

maybe i will go check on this!
thanks

[cshold]

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[wecsoger]

Check before it is recorded!

Ditto. Your S.S.N. is on there and more than enough personal information.

Sad to say.

[jeepnik]

Don't know if it's still so, but back when I bought my house (1979) you could apply for a Cal-Vet loan. Basically the same thing as a VA loan. In my case, I was able to get both and it allowed me to buy much more house than I could rightly afford. That turned out to be one of my smarter moves.

But, other that a vets preference when applying for government jobs, that's about all you get in this state.

Oh, there was one other benefit. When buying a handgun you didn't need to pass any sort of safe handling test. Sadly, they changed that so that only retired military are exempt, and I wouldn't be suprised if that's not on it's way out.

One thing I wonder about, once it's recorded, does it become public record. Seems I started to get all the vet discount thow away mail after I got my loans, and it hasn't stopped. Sheesh, you's think these companies would take a hint after thirty odd years.

[JerryB]

Mine went through the fire in Saint Louis back in the 1970's that Hobie mentioned.A couple of years ago my son got a copy from the Army records people,one page that was burned on all edges but still could read most of it. I do have a DD214 now in the gun safe.

[Panzercat]

CAVEAT: be real careful when recording your DD 214. It contains personally identifiable information such as date and place of birth, and in some cases, social security number, etc. In some states/ localities, a recorded DD214 is considered to be a matter of public record and a copy will be provided upon request.

A few years ago, the local newspaper here an article about an identity theft ring requesting and receiving copies of DD 214's, then using the information to open up charge accounts, obtain loans, driver's licenses, etc. Check before it is recorded!

And another thing that has me rethinking this, CCW appears to be a matter of public record these days, with morons publicity outting gun owners and politicians angling for every angle they can get their hands on.

A CCW puts you on that radar and let's be honest, there's minimal reason to own one in AZ anyway. I guess the reciporicty of other states is the main, but public record makes you a target. I'll have to check on that with them directly.

[stepmac]

When I got back for the last time in '74 all I got were dirty looks and an occasional gob of spit. I recall interviewing in a high rise in San Francisco. The interviewer, a blond who had spent much too much in the sun kept asking, "But what can you do?" I had been an attack pilot for five years. I told her that she had no idea who guys like me were capable of. She just looked to one side and smirked. I'm still a bit bitter, but that was then and this is now. I'm retired and doing fine, great actually. I collect lever action rifles and shoot them along with Parker shotguns. Life, as they say, is good.