SA Revolver Options - need some insight

Irelander · Post by **Irelander** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 1:56 pm

Ok. I have recently gotten into the revolver world with a purchase of a S&W 629PC. I love that gun and I am having a custom holster made for it. So now I have this small addiction to revolvers...I know I know...you all said it would happen. So I am in need of a SA revolver. My personal preference is something with a short barrel (3.5" or 3.75") with a birdshead grip in 44SPL caliber. I have never shot a SA revolver with a birdshead grip but I like how small the grip is and makes a nice small revolver but I would consider a standard grip. I know that 44SPL might be stretch to find so I am ok with 45LC or 357MAG but would love to stay with the 44MAG/SPL since I already have the reloading equipment for it.

This gun will mostly be used for plinking, come along on hunting excursions, and possibly (if I get the right holster and practice enough) carrying concealed.

Keep in mind that I am fairly new to revolvers and very new to SA revolvers.

I have browsed the internet looking for guns that fit my bill from Ruger, USFA, Uberti, and Cimarron. I'll just give you all a little rundown on the ones I have looked at and you can tell me which ones to stay away from as far a quality issues and let me know if there are others to consider.

Ruger Vaquero

I have seen this in blued metal as well. Definitely like the looks of it but it is a little more pricey than some of the others. Only comes in 45LC.

Ruger Montado

Like it. Comes in 357MAG only.

USFA Storekeeper

I couldn't actually find this on the USFA website. Looks like a great gun but is way out of my price range. Only comes is 45LC as far as I know.

Cimarron Frontier

Definitely like the looks of this one. The price looks good too. 45LC only.

Cimarron Thunderer

Pretty much the same as the Frontier with a strange birdshead grip arrangement. Does come in 44SPL.
Anyone have experience with this grip shape?

Uberti 1873 Cattleman Bird's Head Old Model

Looks good. Comes in 44LC or 357MAG.

So that is my list of choices so far. As I said, the USFA guns are out because of the price. I just don't have the coin for one of those. I have heard others say that Uberti is not in the same league with Ruger or USFA. Can someone elaborate on that? Just curious about the Cimarron and Uberti guns since I don't know their brands too well.

Let me know if you have experience with any of these guns and which you can recommend and which to stay away from.

piller · Post by **piller** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:22 pm

I only have experience with Ruger, and recommend them highly. They are built strongly, they last a long time, and most of them are more accurate than the average shooter is capable of shooting. On the downside, they are not as smooth straight from the factory as some others, and they take a lot of time to break in to smoothness. I seriously doubt that the strength of the gun would ever be a problem with .44 Special if loads are kept within SAAMI specs since the .44 Special is not a high pressure round. If you find yourself wanting more power, and you did say you had a 629, then you might look Freedom Arms.
A 629 and a smaller pistol in .44 Special sounds like a lot of fun.

Les Staley · Post by **Les Staley** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:29 pm

If you think you might want to be able to hear your grandchildren as they talk among themselves, and maybe even your wife as you get older, scrap the idea of a 357 mag. Get something that starts with a "4". Don't ask me how I know.. (If you do ask me, speak in a clear voice slowly so I can understand you). Did I mention you might want to think about hearing protection?

walks with gun · Post by **walks with gun** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:38 pm

I know you were leaning towards a .44, but since you were thinking of concealed carry I would reallly give the little Ruger Montado some serious thought. Very dependable, you can safely carry all six beans in it, and good defence rounds are easy to come up with. .357 reloading components are easy to find, and .38 spl. loads are fun for the whole family to shoot. The traditional grip frame fits me better than the birds head but I wouldn't mind halving one too.

M. M. Wright · Post by **M. M. Wright** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:38 pm

Well, in the world of SASS the bird-head grips are preferred by many of the ladies. They fit smaller hands well.

Cimarron is just an importer of Uberti, like Navy or whoever is doing it this week. However, Cimarron seems to hold Uberti to better QC and usually gives better service.

You are right about USFA being expensive, you can buy a Colt for about the same price. The plus about Ruger is that it is like owning an anvil. You can't tear it up and it is made in the USA. But then I feels like holding and anvil if you're used to shooting Colts. Lots of SASS shooters use them and no one runs a single action harder than we do. Properly set up, the Ubertis will last a good long time but don't expect them to be perfect out of the box. Not bad, just not perfect. They are a little heavier made than the Colt/USFA. Generally you have to measure things to realize they are slightly beefier. Look at the top strap for instance, and the cylinder is .040 bigger in dia.

The bird-head grip is OK, I kinda like it and you're right, it is easier to conceal. For controlability (is that a word?) they are pretty round in cross section and the standard grip helps with this. Some of the importers sell a tuned version with thin grip panels like the Evil Roy or named after some other World Champion. Depends on the importer. Look at Taylors.

If you like the .44 Special, by all means get one. Skeeter Skelton was not wrong. Neither is his son Bart.

If you get the Ruger you will have to settle for (I think) 44 Mag and just shoot Specials in it. Not a bad thing. But I have heard some say that Ruger is going to make the New Vaquero in 44 Special. We can only hope.

Irelander · Post by **Irelander** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:44 pm

M. M. Wright wrote:...I have heard some say that Ruger is going to make the New Vaquero in 44 Special. We can only hope.

Any guess as to when the new Vaquero is being released?

L_Kilkenny · Post by **L_Kilkenny** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:56 pm

Don't sweet the cartridge selection too much especially if you reload. .44sp vs. .45c are pretty similar and the .357 has a whole different set of advantages (especially if you don't reload).

I know you called the Thunderer's grip "strange" but that's the way they were back in the day so if you're interested in correct looks than it's the only option.

I can't speak for most of the birdsheads but I really like the Rugers. I have "wide" hands and it's far from being too small for me. The front of the grip is the same length/height and the mid-section is the same as the traditional Ruger SA grips. From what I can tell the only part that is missin is the back corner. And yes, the birdshead conceals very well and better than many smaller guns. Now I'm gonna clarify things a little here and say mine is a .32H&R. Would I like the grips as well with heavy .357s or .44M's? Can't say.

As for which gun...... The Rugers are probably the least correct yet the best guns IMO.

Irelander · Post by **Irelander** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:12 pm

I forgot to mention this one...

Ruger Super Blackhawk

When I was looking for a 44MAG revolver a lot of guys were directing me to this gun. I was set on a DA revolver so I disregarded it. Maybe I should take another look. Not the most concealable revolver though. This model does not appeal to me as much as the others.

AJMD429 · Post by **AJMD429** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:43 pm

If you're set on 'single-action', consider one of the Ruger 'convertable' revolvers - i.e. .45 Colt/.45 ACP or .357 Mag/9mm. I think you can still find both of them around, and ALSO check out a 'Bisley' grip model before deciding. Especially with the higher-recoil rounds the Bisley is WAY better.

Personally, I'd just pick whichever one you're more likely to shoot a levergun in (.357 Mag or .45 Colt). You can add a 9mm or .45 ACP (including carbines as well as pistols) 'companion gun' later, and have lots of guns, but not too many cartridges to reload/buy. Plus, if you don't reload, slipping in the 9mm or .45 ACP cylinder is a convenient way to get light/practice loads (that still are darned good self-defense rounds).

If I had to just own one gun, it might be my Ruger Bisley Blackhawk in .45 Colt/ACP - it fires a huge variety of ammo in terms of power, and can serve as a halfway-decent CCW piece, hunting gun, plinking gun, and home-defense gun few would dare confront.

If you're considering 'concealable' you still might want to think in 'double-action' mode...

In that case, you can't go wrong with (again) a Ruger. If you wear loose clothing and don't live in super-hot areas where you're outside alot, you can easily conceal a Redhawk in .45 Colt (sweet) or .44 Magnum (cool) or (if you want to be 'different') find one in .41 mag or .357 Mag. If you wear clothing less favorable to large-frame guns, a Speed-Six is a perfect CCW gun available in .357 Mag, and the modern version GP-101 is probably just as good. If you want adjustable sights, versions like the Security-Six are around, and if you want even smaller, go with the SP-101 in .357 Mag (or if you want to be 'different) find one in .327 Mag.

The 'other' gun I might consider as my 'only-one-gun' gun would be my Redhawk .45 Colt - it's in a sabotable caliber (if ammo restrictions got absurd, you could shoot pea-gravel or ball-bearings with .45 sabots), not a politically-incorrect 'magnum' (if you had to actually use it in self-defense), and offers as much power as most people can accurately direct in a handgun. (If you are power-hungry, just get a Freedom Arms single-action in .454 Casull...)

Irelander · Post by **Irelander** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:07 pm

Good points AJMD429. I do have a Rossi 92 in 44MAG and the 629 so a 44SPL or MAG makes a lot of sense to me. I'm pretty set on a single action as I have my 629 for double action duty. I will look into the convertibles that you mentioned. I do have to say that I like the looks of the Vaquero style guns over the Blackhawk models.

Considering the ammo commonality, I think I am leaning towards the Cimarron Thunderer in 44SPL. I would like to at least hold one to see how it feels in my hand. Same goes for all of the guns I have mentioned. Not too many gun shops around here have a selection of single action revolvers. I will be looking out for a used Ruger Vaquero in 45LC too.

olyinaz · Post by **olyinaz** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:11 pm

I like all of the guns you showed and have several. The Rugers are made like tanks and just work. Also, with their transfer bar safety system they can carry with 6.

They are made in .45ACP also. Mine:

Cheers,
Oly

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 5:06 pm

A loaded down .44mag, 44 Special, or a 45 Colt will, IME, be more useful than a full power .357....Big bullet, low pressure loads are sort of quiet, and very effective on stuff..... .432 Round Ball loads with a dash of powder will be great plinkers or small game getters.

AJMD429 · Post by **AJMD429** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 5:11 pm

Irelander wrote:I would like to at least hold one to see how it feels in my hand. Same goes for all of the guns I have mentioned. Not too many gun shops around here have a selection of single action revolvers.

Yep. I had made myself a wood grip for my Super Blackhawk .44 Mag when I was a teenager, and it worked pretty well, but just hated the 'knuckle rap' of the factory grips, and it was NOT the 'square trigger guard', but the fact that with long fingers, your knuckles just are going to be in the wrong place at the wrong time if the grip is too slim, plus if you have wide hands, the little finger just curls up useless under the grip.

Finally, the pawn shop where my son works had a Super Blackhawk with Bisley grips, and I got to handle it. Should have bought it, but it was 'scoped' and the extra cost for the scope didn't thrill me, because I'm not into scoped revolvers. Anyway, at least I knew how a Bisley grip felt...!

Same for any other grip or aspect of a handgun. Ideally, if you close your eyes and pick the gun up and get into your 'shooting position', when you open your eyes, it should be already lined up, whatever the grip/gun in question is.

For me, the Bisley Super Blackhawk was the bees-knees, even though I could do without the full-rib thing.

(picture linked to off Ruger.com website)

I like the looks of them without the rib better, but they don't have them in stainless...

(picture linked to off Ruger.com website)

The non-Bisley ones may be a pain to shoot, but are beautifully proportioned...

(picture linked to off Ruger.com website)

Then again, a Redhawk is hard to beat...

(picture linked to off Ruger.com website)

. . . but I digress . . .

gak · Post by **gak** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:13 pm

Those that have either been speculating on--or indicating Ruger has not produced--a New Vaquero in .44 Sp are way behind on the news. Three years ago, trailing the Lipseys .44 Sp Flattop by nine months or so, they intro'd a Lipsey's distributed New Vaquero as well--in two barrel lengths and finishes. I do not know current production status but they're out there.

The OP can come VERY close to his ideal in getting one of the New Vaquero Sheriff variants...at .3.75" barrel length is is essentially a ".44 Sp Montado" minus the Montado"s special SBH profile hammer (which can be swapped in after purchase if desired). This gun has the standard New Vaquero (aka midframe Flattop as well) plowhandle grip. I say, "get the gun, THEN sweat the details of grip," meaning secure the basic gun you want and work to secure--or have custom built--a birdshead gripframe if that becomes/remains paramount.
(Important note of clarification to the above: Ruger has chosen to confusingly label the New Vaquero .44 Specials just "Vaquero" on the frame. Rest assured, they are the midframe New Vaqueros. All factory .44 Special are midframes.)

NV-Montado (.357) top, .44 Sp NV-Sheriff bottom w/ added Montado hammer.

Also, another correction: the Montado is/was made in .45 Colt as well.

For what the OP's seeking, find a New Vaquero .44 Sp Sheriff and never look back, IMO.

Edit: I should add the Uberti/Cimarron is a fine gun as well. I have a tuned .44 Special in a 5.5" Cimarron Model P (standard plowhandle grip) that's one of my favorite guns. But, you "cannot" load 6 safely like the Ruger if that is important to you, and I would uess the Ruger is a more ruged choice over time. Can't beat the snick-snick feel of the Colt-inspired designs either however. Regarding the birdshead variant(s), the Uberti-style (which is sized and styled more similar to the original Colt--smaller and more differently contoured--versus Ruger's) is not for everyone or every load...but I'll grant then again what is? My guess is the plowhandle (of either make) or Ruger's birdshead will please more people more of the time though.

hightime · Post by **hightime** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:03 pm

You forgot a couple. Beretta Stampede and Laramie. Not built like a tank.

Owen

madman4570 · Post by **madman4570** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:23 pm

olyinaz wrote:I like all of the guns you showed and have several. The Rugers are made like tanks and just work. Also, with their transfer bar safety system they can carry with 6.

They are made in .45ACP also. Mine:

Cheers,
Oly

+1

pokey · Post by **pokey** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:36 pm

they are around.

http://www.gunsinternational.com/Ruger- ... =100221540

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =291650614

buy and modify.

JimT · Post by **JimT** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:35 am

There are many other options ... here's two:

.357 converted to .45 ACP by Alpha Precision
Cosby Custom Guns did the topstrap remmodeling, the remarking and nickel finish.

.45 Colt built by Reeder Custom Guns

More photos of both here -> http://www.leverguns.com/acp/bigbore_bellyguns.htm

Irelander · Post by **Irelander** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:19 am

gak,

Thanks! I am so glad to hear that a .44SPL Vaquero was made.

I like the one pokey found on gunbroker.com. If I can scrape up the cash, I just might get it.

I have pretty much decided that I'm going with Ruger anyway. I have been trying to make conscious decisions to buy American and I also want to be able to carry all six rounds in the cylinder.

biggfoot44 · Post by **biggfoot44** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:04 am

I have an almost pair of 3.5in , std grip (old) Vaqueros. Yes I occasionally CCW one. The grip shape is not a limiting factor. Std grips work well with almost everyone , various birdsheads and Bisley's are a more variable matter of taste.

With any Ruger/ SAA clone it is a fairly large gun, with substantial frame and cylnder dimentions ( compared to usual CCW DA revolver in J frame-ish to K frame-ish sizes. With *most* holster/ clothing combinations not a huge difference between 3.5 , 3.75 , 4.0 , and 4 5/8 .

FWIW mine were nonCatalogued distributor run shortly before the later factory Sheriff Mdls.

Wow ! I know I only occasionally stop by here , but it seems my previous post count has been Ethnic Cleansed.

dogngun · Post by **dogngun** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:20 am

I have owned a LOT of various single action revolvers over the last 45 years and carried a variety of them, as large as a 71/2" Super Blackhawk...in a shoulder holster under a flannel shirt or jacket.

Although I like Rugers, I prefer the feel of a flat spring gun, in other words a traditional SAA type. Right now I have a Cimmaron Evil Roy 5 1/2" .357 magnum, and I love it. It is extremely accurate, very well finished and the smoothest SAA I have ever shot. I like the .357 because I am retired and I'm simplifying my guns to some pretty standard readily available and not very expensive calibers...In revolvers, that means .357 magnum, which also uses .38 Spl. Versatile, available at the local Walmart-and almost everywhere else- and factory loaded in a great variety of bullet weights and types.

I really like the .45 Colt, and before I retired I had a lot of guns in various calibers, including .44 Mag and.45 Colt...I was planning on spending time handloading, with a lot of time at the range. This did not work out. Instead, I sold a lot of my guns in other calibers and standardized on the .357...and 1 1911 in .45 ACP.

I also want to say that I have had a Ruger old style Vaquero convertible, .45 Colt and .ACP. It looked great, but was very inaccurate and as much as I liked it I sold it.

Whatever you decide on, I have no problems with the idea of carrying a SA revolver...I have shot them enough to be familiar with them and to shoot them pretty well. I might have only 5 quick shots, but those first 5 targets will be in deep trouble.

it's a good idea to carry 2 Bianchi speed strips with 5 - or 6 - rounds of reload ammo...they are a bit faster to load than just fishing the rounds out of a pocket or ammo wallet. Also, if you are anticipating trouble, load that SAA with all 6 and put it on half cock...just for a short time. You will be OK with it,even though it violates a "rule".

Good luck with whatever you decide.

mark

Irelander · Post by **Irelander** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:33 am

JimT wrote:There are many other options ... here's two:

.357 converted to .45 ACP by Alpha Precision
Cosby Custom Guns did the topstrap remmodeling, the remarking and nickel finish.

.45 Colt built by Reeder Custom Guns

More photos of both here -> http://www.leverguns.com/acp/bigbore_bellyguns.htm

Those are some sweet looking sixguns!

biggfoot44 · Post by **biggfoot44** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:27 am

Heck for ideal choice I like 3 Screw Rugers for balance nd feel. But the OP seemed to be focused on newly mfg.

Nate Kiowa Jones · Post by **Nate Kiowa Jones** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 12:06 am

I have always like the late 19th century victorian looks of the british bulldog. I have a modest collection of these old guns from 22 to 44 cal.

About 3 or 4 years ago I decided I would take some Uberti SAA parts I had here and put together my version. I already had the top one but it just didn't quite fit the bill. So, with the parts I put the second together. At the time no one offered a Bisley hammer that would drop in a SAA and not interfere with the grip backstrap. So I welded a bisley upper to the SAA lower hammer. I had to order the Thunderer grip frame and VTI had a sale on the 3.5" barrels, too. It's still not finished. I need to take it apart and have it plated.
But, while I'm working on this Uberti in my spare time the EMF folks came out the exact same gun. It's the third one down and is their Stainless version made by Pietta.

All three of the SAA's are 45lc. The Original F&W Bulldog is a five shot 44.

Irelander · Post by **Irelander** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:55 am

Thanks for all the input guys. I just clicked the Buy It Now on this guy http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =291650614. Thanks goes to pokey for giving me the heads up on that auction.

I should have it in my possession next week. I will post up some pics when I do.

Now I need to find some 44SPL brass. Where's the best deal for brass?

Booger Bill · Post by **Booger Bill** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:18 am

I have owned this cimmeron arms thunderer in .45 colt and .45 acp for many years. It`s made by uberti. I havent shot it much but the grips feel great!

Booger Bill · Post by **Booger Bill** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:25 am

Here is a old colt single action I have. Somewhere I found a short barrel and ejector in .44 probley made by christy. I had it mounted on a 1906 already once converted colt to .44 special. I didnt like it as the ejector was so short it wasnt functional and converted it back.

Tumbleweeds II · Post by **Tumbleweeds II** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:37 am

I believe you will like that pistol a lot.

When your gun fund comes full again, you might want to look at the Charter Arms Bulldog. (I love to help other guys spend their money.)

L_Kilkenny · Post by **L_Kilkenny** » Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:15 pm

Nice gun and good luck!

olyinaz · Post by **olyinaz** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:49 am

AJMD429 wrote:[

For me, the Bisley Super Blackhawk was the bees-knees, even though I could do without the full-rib thing.

(picture linked to off Ruger.com website)

I like the looks of them without the rib better, but they don't have them in stainless...

(picture linked to off Ruger.com website)

Say what?? Sure they do! I have one!!

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =297098272

Oly

gak · Post by **gak** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:18 am

Four of the type(s) we're talking about here at LGS in Phoenix area. Two .44 Sp NV's --one blue I THINK was 4-5/8, one SS Sheriff 3.75--a .45 Colt Montado, and one of the new .45ACP midframe (NV) SS Birdsheads (with SBH hammer etc)...all NIB.

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:54 pm

Make and style of revolver can remain your choice; but, if you reload for .45ACP, the Cowboy45Special can be loaded using your current ACP dies with just a .45Colt shell holder. After I load up a bunch of .45ACP on my Dillon, I just change over to the .45Colt shellplate and continue on. Handy, easy and convienent.

Use the same bullets, primers, and loads. Works great in my SAAs and whenn I finish the mods to my 1894 Marlin, ooughta be like poppcorn thru a goose!

Brass is available from our own Adirondack Jack.

And if you don't load the .45ACP, ya NEED a 1911 anyway!

pokey · Post by **pokey** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:57 pm

Irelander wrote: Thanks goes to pokey

de nada.

Irelander · Post by **Irelander** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:34 pm

My Vaquero should be here tomorrow. I am already looking into aftermarket parts for it from Power Custom. Thinking about a Bisley hammer. I think I will hold off on any modifications until I shoot it for a while.

I still need some 44SPL brass. I was going to order some Starline brass from MidwayUSA but I thought there might be a better deal out there. I saw that Natchez had the same Starline brass for a little cheaper but the shipping was going to be $18.00. That is insane! Shipping from Midway was only about $9. Let me know if you see any good deals on 44SPL brass.

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:59 pm

Why not from Starline direct? .44Spl brass on b/o, available 08/08/12

Another place to check from time to time for specials is Top Brass

Irelander · Post by **Irelander** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:07 pm

Griff wrote:Why not from Starline direct? .44Spl brass on b/o, available 08/08/12

I was just looking to get 100-200 rounds. I'm cheap so I didn't want to spend the money on 500 rounds.

Irelander · Post by **Irelander** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:31 pm

Well, here she is - my Ruger Vaquero in 44SPL (in front of my Rossi 92 in 44MAG)

Now I just need a holster and some 44SPL brass.

gak · Post by **gak** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:19 pm

Great looking combo!

Paladin · Post by **Paladin** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:21 pm

Great looking pair. I like the single actions but with my small hands really like the birds head grips and in WV we have to have at least a 4 inch barrel to hunt.

Irelander · Post by **Irelander** » Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:13 pm

Remember how I was wanting a birdshead gripframe with my 44SPL Vaquero? Well I've been looking into getting a birdshead gripframe and low and behold a gentleman over on Rugerforum.com wants to trade me a birdshead frame for my plow handle frame. He is sending me his frame and I will check it out and make sure it fits before sending mine out to him. I can't wait for it to arrive. If I decide to keep and when I get it all put together I'll post up some pics. YEEHAW!

MrMurphy · Post by **MrMurphy** » Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:24 pm

Nice looking piece, though I favor a 5.5" on a Peacemaker, and a standard grip.

I leave birdshead grips on Webleys, where I prefer them.

Didn't realize they'd made some .44 Spl New Vaqueros.

Irelander · Post by **Irelander** » Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:27 pm

I like my guns small and concealable if need be. I have a very thin frame so hiding a revolver is hard as it is, but would only be harder with a longer barrel.

The 44SPL New Vaquero was a Lipsey's special.

Post by **Chuck 100 yd** » Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:32 pm

Good looking piece!!
You are going to love it.
Currently I have 4 pairs of Vaquaros. Both .357 and .45.
All great shooters.

wilko · Post by **wilko** » Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:54 pm

olyinaz wrote:I like all of the guns you showed and have several. The Rugers are made like tanks and just work. Also, with their transfer bar safety system they can carry with 6.

They are made in .45ACP also. Mine:

Cheers,
Oly

Holy stuff that must be the best looking revolver i have ever seen... i want one in .45 acp

Irelander · Post by **Irelander** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:40 am

wilko wrote:
olyinaz wrote:I like all of the guns you showed and have several. The Rugers are made like tanks and just work. Also, with their transfer bar safety system they can carry with 6.

They are made in .45ACP also. Mine:

Cheers,
Oly

Holy stuff that must be the best looking revolver i have ever seen... i want one in .45 acp

Agreed! Great gun and great picture. That's computer wallpaper worthy.

MrMurphy · Post by **MrMurphy** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:25 pm

I have my fair share of small and concealable pieces, I wouldn't put a Peacemaker in that category.

Having hidden a full size M9 in a uniform not cut to hide one, and at various times a full size 1911, 4" .357 (double action) and a mix of other large autos, hiding the barrel is the easy part, and the longer barrel/slide helps using an IWB holster to keep the gun from moving around so much.

stepmac · Post by **stepmac** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:15 pm

Run, don't walk to your nearest gun store and buy a Ruger .22/22 mag. You will shoot that pistol for the rest of your life. The .22 LR makes a great plinker and the .22 mag is a powerful and a potentially dangerous round. The fun of owning a revolver is shooting it. Having a great .22 makes shooting it more likely. You can teach your wife to shoot one too. Then tell her you need another one...not wife....pistol.

olyinaz · Post by **olyinaz** » Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:39 pm

I don't have small hands but I love birdshead grips (I like how they roll in my hand after you touch one off) and I really like either the Super Blackhawk or Montado hammer on my Rugers. That .45 ACP piece came from the factory just about PERFECT for me!

Cimarron is making a new model called the Thunderstorm that I really like also. I'm keeping my eyes peeled for one.

Oly