Hold Me Back, Tell Me It's Not Worth It...Eastern Carbine

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Hold Me Back, Tell Me It's Not Worth It...Eastern Carbine

#1 Post by CBinNH » Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:53 pm

I have been looking at an 1894 carbine that I believe is a true "Eastern Carbine". Made in 1915. 32 Special. No blue left on the receiver. Thinning blue on mag tube & barrel. Has the 2/3 or 3/4 mag tube. No saddle ring. Carbine ladder type rear sight & carbine front. Shotgun butt. Walnut. Bore looks dirty, but good rifling, no pitting I can see. Action is smooth & tight, better than some newer ones I have fondled. Now, the bad news. The fore end has a crack by the barrel band 3" long & there is a piece of wood about a 1/4" wide & 5" long missing from the butt stock on it's underside. Tell me it isn't worth the $450 asking price & keep on walking in the other direction, please.

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#2 Post by awp101 » Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:13 pm

If you can get it for $150, it's worth it.

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#3 Post by 30-30 » Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:22 pm

awp101 wrote:If you can get it for $150, it's worth it.

There, did that help? :lol:
That's good advice--but I would say $200.00--250.00 and look at it as a rescue and then a project... :)

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#4 Post by model55 » Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:30 pm

It's not worth it,It's not worth it, so when are you picking it up?Actually I don't know what it is worth but if it is calling your name and you plan to have it for a while you could break even down the road.Just saying-not that I'm an enabler or anything.

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#5 Post by Mainehunter » Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:06 pm

It all depends how bad you want it. How often you do see a "true eastern carbine" these days? I haven't in awhile.

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#6 Post by Griff » Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:12 pm

Nope, it ain't worth it. Where did you say it was?
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But, yes, if you can pick it up for under $300, it'd make for a nice wood refinishing project... as long as you think it'll be a shooter. I always thought the "Eastern Carbine" had a full length mag tube.
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#7 Post by Mike D. » Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:29 pm

The only difference between the "Western" and "Eastern" carbines is the inclusion of a sling ring on the Out West model. Also, many of "Eastern" ones have shotgun butts, while the other variety has the old curved carbine butt plate. Either can have button, 1/2, 3/4 or full length tubes. The commonest by far is the full mag. The .32 WS is the least popular caliber of "collectible" '94s.
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#8 Post by DerekR » Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:39 pm

It would be worth it to me. I'd buy it and try to repair the stock/fore end. Great gun and cartridge.

I have an 1894 with saddle ring, shotgun butt and full-length mag tube in .32WS. I love that gun. Mine is a low six digit gun that dates from 1906 or so.
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#9 Post by AJMD429 » Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:27 pm

model55 wrote:Just saying-not that I'm an enabler or anything.
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#10 Post by damienph » Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:59 pm

It sounds pretty appealing to me.
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#11 Post by Borregos » Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:17 pm

I would be tempted for sure :D :D
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#12 Post by edwardyoung » Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:19 pm

The short mag tube would be why I would buy it, if I decided to buy it. If you like it and can afford, I'd buy it. Tell everybody you talked him down to $300. Then you can brag about your good deal. Be sure and post a pic

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#13 Post by Pete44ru » Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:08 pm

[ I have been looking at an 1894 carbine that I believe is a true "Eastern Carbine". Made in 1915. 32 Special.]


FWIW, The period in which EASTERN CARBINES were shipped ran from 1905 (starting @ SN 300,000) for 20 years to 1925 (ending @ SN 958,700).

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#14 Post by mack » Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:30 pm

CB,
My thought would be that if you like it, you want it, and you sort of think you can afford it. Go for it, they aren't making any more and it will cost more the next time you find it. Don't kick yourself sometime down the road over missing it because of a few bucks.

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#15 Post by earlmck » Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:03 pm

mack wrote:CB,
My thought would be that if you like it, you want it, and you sort of think you can afford it. Go for it, they aren't making any more and it will cost more the next time you find it. Don't kick yourself sometime down the road over missing it because of a few bucks.
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#16 Post by Ray Newman » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:23 pm

Is this a private party sale or sold by a dealer?

If either, ask them to clean the bore, so you’ll have a much better idea of its condition. Dirt and other debris can hide frosting, pits, etc.

Then ask to take the rifle out in sunlight and carefully examine it. Some more defects or problems might then become apparent as a result of the natural sunlight. Often times a dealer will have what I call “dealer’s lighting” which is not the “best and the brightest” and will hide flaws. Or, he only a flashlight with weak batteries….

My big bugaboo ‘bout the rifle is the damage to wood, esp. the 5” X¼” missing pice from the butt. Probably will be difficult trying to match and fit a repair to blend with the original wood.
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