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The Cody Museum has an online library of old photos and prints that you can browse here http://www.bbhc.org/mccracken/collections/ I imagine a fellow can spend hours on winter nights looking through it.
I was just skimming through and noticed the print, a partial snapshot of which I've posted below. The print was made in 1895 and what caught my eye was some of the smokeless cartridges for rifles which I've often heard some insist that only black powder should be used. Notable is the 44 Winchester (44-40) that says 'Model 1873'. There are also several Model 1886 calibers noted as well.
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Kirk, all of those early, and later, smokeless cartridges were loaded to relative BP pressures of the day. Even the High Velocity loads were of low enough pressure to be used in the rifles the cartridge was chambered for. I like to read the early catalogs, too, all of which are nicely reproduced.
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Try Cornell Publications. They have beautiful copies of original Winchester, and many other manufacturers, catalogs, as well as various instruction manuals.
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Mike D. wrote:Kirk, all of those early, and later, smokeless cartridges were loaded to relative BP pressures of the day. Even the High Velocity loads were of low enough pressure to be used in the rifles the cartridge was chambered for. I like to read the early catalogs, too, all of which are nicely reproduced.
That is true. The smokeless loads of 1895 gave approximately the same muzzle velocity as the BP loads.
Kirk: An old geezer who loves the smell of freshly turned earth, old cedar rail fences, wood smoke, a crackling fireplace on a snowy evening, pristine wilderness lakes, the scent of
cedars and a magnificent Whitetail buck framed in the semi-buckhorn sights of a 120-year old Winchester. Blog: https://www.kirkdurston.com/
Mike D. wrote:Kirk, all of those early, and later, smokeless cartridges were loaded to relative BP pressures of the day. Even the High Velocity loads were of low enough pressure to be used in the rifles the cartridge was chambered for. I like to read the early catalogs, too, all of which are nicely reproduced.
It just goes to show that even in the early years of smokeless powder that it could be safely fired in black powder firearms. The whole secret is not to exceed the firearms maxium pressure and that includes modern firearms as well as the black powder cartridge firearms. I've used lots of smokeless powders in Winchester 73, 76, 86, and 92s without ever having a problem.
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Same here, but mostly in guns with nickel steel barrels. I don't have one in .40-82, but am workin' on one made in 1909. Special order 24" barrel, full mag, Extra Lightweight, .40-82 WCF.
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Mike, I'm surprised you do not yet have a 40-82! Good luck on that possible acquisition.
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One interesting tidbit. During the time frame that the same cartridges could be bought with smokeless or black powder, the primers on the smokeless rounds were given primers that had a "W" stamp. This allowed the shooter to know what was in it.
Here's a few.
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