Ot- What's with kids today?

[redgum]

This type of teenage behaviour is sadly on the increase here in OZ. I work in the security industry and the change I see in youth's attitudes in recent years is apalling. I can't believe the lack of respect, discipline and manners.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/ ... 28902.html

[meanc]

Don't blame the kids.

Blame the parents 110 %.

[J Miller]

JMO, besides the parents:
TOO much television,
TOO many video games,
TOO much computers,
TOO little outdoors and real life activities with genuine family involvement.

Joe

[Griff]

"This is absolutely a parental responsibility.''

I think the wearing of their ball caps backwards has caused some magnetic impulse from the metal tab to permeate the frontal lobe. Needs removing. Of course, any normal 16 year old needs constant supervision at any time in our history. I would likely have done the same had my parents left me in charge of the house.

[ursavus.elemensis]

Kids need the outdoors. This is an excellent book for anyone who is interested in what's happening to today's young people:
http://www.amazon.com/Last-Child-Woods- ... 599&sr=8-1

[Leverdude]

Well, I too blame the parents, but I also blame the society that will lock them up if they kick his *** when they come home.
Its not so easy to be a good parent under these conditions.
That said, if they were responsible parents its unlikely the kid would ever do this. This is not the action of a good kid or an occasionally wild one either.

[iceman]

I can't (won't ) blame any parent on how their kid behaves. saying that, the only thing I can say is that the kid learns by whar he see or hears. If the parentsdon't wish to agree it must be ghosts. I have 24 year old son that i am very proud of. I think that every decision that he made was a complete logical deduction of how life should be by him seeing how I reacted to life's surprises. Without leadership we have lostleaders. Too many people won't or can't accept the consequences of their actions. I wasn't brought up that way. Just my .02 Canadian

[Ysabel Kid]

Don't blame the kids.

Blame the parents 110 %.

+1,000!

"It's just destroyed our faith in him. We just don't know what to do as parents.''

Problem # 1. Of course, had they been parents, and not trying to be their kid's friend, at an earlier age, this could be avoided. Probably too late now - at home, anyway. I'm thinking a nice all-male military academy would be the best way to handle him at 16.

"She said police were considering billing the boy, to spare the community the cost."

Bill the boy, and the parents. Either way, the community who actually does bother to raise their children correctly shouldn't be burdened with the cost. Of course, with 500 attendees, sounds like a lot of pi$$-poor parenting going on.

"The crowd eventually dispersed and no-one was arrested."

Well, so the police are adding to the problems. If they had made a dozen, dozens, or scores of arrests, these young miscreants would have gotten the message - as would have their parents. Not arresting anyone was foolish - and asking for more!

"He refused to take responsibility for the damage."

And thus, like most teenagers and liberals of all ages, he is sadly in the majority...

[rangerider7]

I was a teacher/coach for 31 years. Our youth in high school have reverted back to Jr high status. Whose to blame? All of us for not standing up to child Psychologists in the 60s and 70s. The books that stated that the parents should let them be creative in there early years were wrong and some of them are just now admitting it. Children must learn to "bare the burden of their on actions" before they can mature into adults. Parents must be able to decide what actions they will use to CHANGE bad behavior. This is not being done in our society as of today.

[Marlin .35]

This kid needs forced labor camp so he can pay off the damages. After 5 years of busting rocks 10 hours a day, and on meger rations, I bet he won't be throwing more parties!!!! And, if he is that stupid, that he does, give him another 5 years. I have no sympathy for this kid. He deserves all the bad things he gets!!!! Art

[Jeeps]

Not so much the parents, but more on society.

Both parents probably work.

If they lay a hand on him, the police (govt) will get involved.

It's the socialist who are always demanding the govt. make laws to bring
everything around them into order. Problem is, it NEVER works.

If you spank your kid you can be brought up on charges, if they stick or not
doesn't matter, you don't want to pay the legal bills or have the embarrassment
so you forgo the spanking.
Meanwhile the law about beating kids did nothing to stop child abuse because
it is a crime of RAGE. You can't stop rage with a law.

To be perfectly honest, you can't stop anything with a law.

So now a thousand kids are not corrected using corporal punishment (which
helped me grow up, and I don't hate my parents) Yet those few children are
still being abused and molested and murdered.

Someday I expect there to be soooo many laws that I'll try to pick my nose
and end up getting a ticket for it

[Hagler]

...well, I want to call him a hoon, but what a fruity flavor! No sense of style, no meancing appearance, he just does not care. The parents share the blame, but little juicy-fruit needs his attention-span increased. He probably views himself as a badboy, but he ain't no Night Rider; he ain't no Toe Cutter; and he sure ain't no Jacko!:



Truly, shameful all the way around. That teenager is not the only one, but just one like him is bad enough.

Shawn

[mad mucus]

Ysabel Kid's comment on...

"Don't blame the kids.
Blame the parents 110 %."

+1,000! ............

_________________

Mate.... we don't live in the 50's anymore; society and technology have changed.... y'all did as your parents wished during the "FLOWER POWER" years, eh?

Kids today wear invisible padding, which they are well aware of, making them feel tall and rebellious.

Many of us try to be good parents but things don't always turn out as we wish. Kids are individuals often steered by peers, especially in urban enviroments.

Oh...... and we don't have military school here in Oz.
Military service would be good.

By the way, the internet has made him famous world wide, he's even being offered big bucks to organise big parties 'cause he good!

Mucus

[cshold]

Not sure I would go with a full 110% on the parents.
It would be up there though.

My wife is a school teacher. The things that are being
taught in the public school systems these days are
enough to make your eyes bleed.
(I am talking flat out history changing lies)

The other big problem is, only 1 out of every 6 people
in this country attend church on a regular basis anymore.

[Sixgun]

Bill Clinton and the liberals are to blame. Remember Bill saying, "If it feels good, do it.!?". Also, having laws jammed down our throats that embrace and force us to mingle with people we do not feel comfortable with also has a lot to do with it. The weak minded people will bow down and accept other peoples cultures, all the time, forgetting where "they came from". Some cultures do not have the same discipline and self-worth of other cultures. An example is Anglos with pants down to their knees and MTV embracing it. Therefore, kids think its OK and their parents who are afraid of laws and being politically incorrect, let it happen.

Contrary to what we are taught, we are all different and we all feel more comfortable around our own kind. Keep in mind, I am not running down other people. I just say it should be up to our own minds who we deal with and should not have to feel retribution whether its from laws or social acceptence from our peers.

One day last summer, my wife and I were looking out back and she said, "well look at that". Off to the left of the pasture were two Paint horses, in another section were two Morgans, and to the right were three quarter horses". Draw your own conclusions.-----------Sixgun

[Ysabel Kid]

Ysabel Kid's comment on...

"Don't blame the kids.
Blame the parents 110 %."

+1,000! ............

_________________

Mate.... we don't live in the 50's anymore; society and technology have changed.... y'all did as your parents wished during the "FLOWER POWER" years, eh?
Mucus

Well, I am old (as Jeremy points out), but not that old. Being born in 1964, I was too young for most of the "flower-power" era!

I did do what my father told me, darn near 100% of the time, and my few deviations we quite mild. I was under no delusions about our relationship. He was my father first and foremost. As he was found of saying, "this is not a democracy", referring to his household, "this is a dictatorship - and as long as you live in my house and I pay the bills, I'm the dictator".

Even a thick-headed teenager would understand that.

One of my deviations was indeed a party while my parents were gone. It was a ton of fun, but very much limited to close trusted friends who I knew wouldn't destroy the house or upset the neighborhood. We all had too much respect for others properity to do that - even when drunk.

His messages must have carried through, because I followed them through my teenage years and beyond, even though he died when I was 16. In fact, I credit the self-discipline he instilled in me for getting through some very tough years.

Father first. He was also my best friend. As I tell my son now, "Daddy first". He is getting the message. Discipline can be instilled without abuse, and it is the highest form of love for your kids. As we all know, it can often hurt us more to punish our children than let them skate, and it is a lot of hard work, but we do it thinking of their well-being over a lifetime...

Good luck mate - I know it is not easy!

[RIHMFIRE]

both the parents and the kids need some ......
shall we say ...guidence

[TedH]

Many parents these days are just plain too LAZY to follow through with what it takes to disipline a child properly. They are more concerned about themselves. It takes a lot of time spent with a child to raise them right, IMHO. Too many parents just won't do it for the effort it takes.

[Texican]

Many parents these days are just plain too LAZY to follow through with what it takes to disipline a child properly. They are more concerned about themselves. It takes a lot of time spent with a child to raise them right, IMHO. Too many parents just won't do it for the effort it takes.

Too true. I remember a little old British lady saying something to the effect of, "The problem with parents today is that they are too concerned with being friends with their children, whereas back in my day we couldn't care less whether they liked us or not." The implication being that you do a disservice to the children by not being a parent to them.

My personal belief is that kids and dogs are much the same. Both exist in a heirarchal pack. Neither really care where they exist in the heirarchy as long as they know where it is. Both take comfort in structure and consistency. The wild ones (kids and dogs) push boundaries because they don't know where the boundaries are, or the consequences for going beyond the boundaries are inconsistently applied.

[.45colt]

This kind of attitude is everywhere. punk teenagers who don't have any guidance or responsibilities.I had to work as a teen. just like Me,when my Kids were teenagers if they had free time they got a job... I could tell several stories about neighbours kids or the schools as my Wife was a busdriver for ten years.
We have a relitive who is raising a Son who quit school at 16,and loafs off Mommy. now 20 years old working a couple days a week cleaning a bar. Any attempt to reason or talk to Him failed as Mommy didn't want Him disciplined. He will most likely be seeing alot of these before long.IIII at least Mommy won't have to look for Him. Jim.

[mad mucus]

G'day Ysabel Kid..... I too am of the 1964 vintage and I grew with similar values.

I have six kids, the four oldest aged 17-22yrs, all left school, work full-time and still live at home with rules and guidlines. Their greenness, gullability, and lack of "street smarts" is a concern to me.

Mucus

[Ysabel Kid]

G'day Ysabel Kid..... I too am of the 1964 vintage and I grew with similar values.

I have six kids, the four oldest aged 17-22yrs, all left school, work full-time and still live at home with rules and guidlines. Their greenness, gullability, and lack of "street smarts" is a concern to me.

Mucus

Nothing much in this world replaces experiences - often earned the hard way. I'd be concerned too. You sold like a loving father - which in and of itself is the best gift you can give them. They are already rich.

Wow, six. I thought I was busy with two. My hat is off to you my friend!!!